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Meh.. they won't be using that thing.Poseidon wrote:
Ah. Well, by that time Iran may have gotten nukes. And when they launch one we can stop it dead in it's tracks.Aegis wrote:
The laser works when sitting on the ground. Hasn't been successfully tested from the air. The project is just an experiment at present. Still years from being operational, etc.Poseidon wrote:
...then what do you call that? It's been proven to work along with that whatsitsface program out in the desert that was tested late in 2006.
Patriot is essentially our only deployed ballistic missile defense platform. THAAD and SM-3 are nearing the end of their evaluation phases and will be on the ground/in the fleet soon.
Seeker imagery from the latest SM-2 shot. Kinetic kill warhead. Hot shit.
The laser works when sitting on the ground. Hasn't been successfully tested from the air. The project is just an experiment at present. Still years from being operational, etc.Poseidon wrote:
...then what do you call that? It's been proven to work along with that whatsitsface program out in the desert that was tested late in 2006.Aegis wrote:
No, I was poking fun at how you used Wikipedia to make my point :-) They have good info, but you gotta read the whole article, yes?Poseidon wrote:
typical. the minute it's wikipedia you dismiss it. so much for debate and serious talk. if you're going to start with the insults just because i used wikipedia just leave the forum, seriously. Wikipedia's just as good of a source as any.
of course they haven't deployed it yet! there's no country with nukes threatening us! not yet atleast.
As I said before, there's no plane we have that shoots down ballistic missiles.
Patriot is essentially our only deployed ballistic missile defense platform. THAAD and SM-3 are nearing the end of their evaluation phases and will be on the ground/in the fleet soon.
Seeker imagery from the latest SM-3 shot. Kinetic kill warhead. Hot shit.
No, I was poking fun at how you used Wikipedia to make my point :-) They have good info, but you gotta read the whole article, yes?Poseidon wrote:
typical. the minute it's wikipedia you dismiss it. so much for debate and serious talk. if you're going to start with the insults just because i used wikipedia just leave the forum, seriously. Wikipedia's just as good of a source as any.
of course they haven't deployed it yet! there's no country with nukes threatening us! not yet atleast.
As I said before, there's no plane we have that shoots down ballistic missiles.
oh SNAP - he's got Wikipedia on his side!Poseidon wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1Aegis wrote:
Who's worried about Iranian tacair?Poseidon wrote:
Myself? Sure, i'm a bit worried. But their best jet is an F-14 that is outdated and needs new parts.We have what?Poseidon wrote:
They have "supposed" missiles that can reach Israel, but we have planes that can shoot them down if it happens.
FYI... the YAL is a DARPA project we're still fiddling with over the desert in the western states. If you'd taken the time to read the article you Googled and pasted, then you'd have read that they haven't even deployed it yet. In fact, the laser has only been successfully tested from the ground... so it's a long way from patrolling the friendly skies.
We can go roundy-roundy all night on the subject of ballistic missile defense, if you like... but if you get your info from Wikipedia then I doubt you'd have much to add to the discussion.
You know... nothingfadedsteve wrote:
Our special forces are in Iran NOW! some of you already know what I am talking about from a previous thread!
Conflict with Iran is inevitable. . . .So is conflict with Syria etc.
This summer is going to be violent for sure!! Look at whats already happening in Palestine/Israel!!
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the British ship(s) over there are within range... Yeah - pretty sure of that one.Skorpy-chan wrote:
They have no weapons platforms that can reach the UK with any sort of meaningful payload, let alone accuracy enough to hit me.
I wouldn't be so quick to say they don't have any muscle...link52787 wrote:
Iran just likes to flex its muscles that it does not have.
Who's worried about Iranian tacair?Poseidon wrote:
Myself? Sure, i'm a bit worried. But their best jet is an F-14 that is outdated and needs new parts.
We have what?Poseidon wrote:
They have "supposed" missiles that can reach Israel, but we have planes that can shoot them down if it happens.
Man, the threat is mines and coastal defense cruise missiles or some cavalier small boat over there just doing something stupid, thereby igniting that little powderkeg and shutting down virtually the entire gulf... do some reading!
consensus over credentials.Cougar wrote:
So whats the beef with wiki?
I must be reading the wrong intelligence reports lately - Now I'm coming to bf2s.com for all the latest operational news!
Riiiiight....fadedsteve wrote:
Just talked with my friends father this afternoon, who is the father of Navy Seal Mike C. (last name withheld). He and I attended high school together. Mike is a 30 year old Navy Seal who has left for Iran within the last 3 weeks. . . . .
We dont know the mission in which he has been assigned, nor the location within Iran, all we know is Mike said thats where he was deploying. . .
Mike was involved in the shoot out with Iraqi insurgents, where a fellow Navy Seal died as a result of being a body shield for 2 of his comrads in arms. Here is the link. There is an ongoing push to have this SEAL recieve a posthumous Medal of Honour.
http://www.ptsdsupport.net/navy_SEAL_di … rades.html
My buddy Mike recieved shrapnel in the knee as a result of this engagement. He is fully recovered, but does still have some issues with pain apparently. The injuries are not bad enough for him to be put out of duty.
HOWEVER, this raises a question in my mind. . . .What is going on in Iran?? Why are our Seals headed there? Is this the beginning stages of the attack to remove Iran's nuclear weapons facilities??
Took me about 485 hrs. I'm slow. It was fun.
Oh isn't it? Show me another artillery survival guide thenHavok wrote:
Umm... is this a joke? Nothing new here.
You're not very familiar with the effect of wartime damage on a ship, are you?Fancy_Pollux wrote:
That said, an attack submarine simply cannot sink a Nimitz class carrier. The ship is compartmentalized so well that you could literally blow out the entire lower decks of a Nimitz class and still not sink it
Try googling the term "floodable length" - you'll find it's generally on the order of 20% or less of a ship below the main deck that can be flooded before it sinks. Besides, torpedoes don't kill by flooding - they break the keel of the ship and the weight of the ship does the rest - (i.e. it breaks your shit in half)
Do you know how many escorts come in a standard strike group?even having such an opportunity is non-existent considering the number of escorts.
1 or 2 Mark 48's could end it all. Besides, you don't have to sink her to knock her out of the fight.The amount of conventional weaponry it would take to sink one makes attacking one impractical. It's nuke or bust.
Also true, I can imagine.You will not see a Nimitz class sunk by conventional weaponry in your lifetime.
No, probably not. I imagine if you did, you'd probably be getting it ASAP. There was a lot of sharing of aircraft tech in WWII, namely because everyone on our side NEEDED it to defeat the Luftwaffe and the Germans at large!sfarrar33 wrote:
do we really need F-22's?
True, but they got a shitty version of the radar and weapon suite and I don't believe they got the AIM-64 Phoenix, either. It's a pretty toy for them, but not useful as an interceptor with the reduced capability. Besides, it's outdated now - been out of our inventory for a few months now.UGADawgs wrote:
Last time we sold an advanced piece of equipment (the F-14), we sold it to the supposedly stable Iranian Empire. Even allies can't be trusted with the absolute best.Commie Killer wrote:
Todays ally is tomorrows enemy. Were not gonna sell off the most advanced aircraft in human history right away, the first if any country to buy it will be the UK.
Outmatched how?BN wrote:
Apparently the F-35 is outmatched by the Su-35 Flankers.
You can't compare apples and oranges, bud -
F-35 is primarily a carrier-based strike aircraft that can also fight air-to-air.
Su-35 is an air superiority fighter (like the F-22, F-15, F-16, etc...) that is also strike-capable.
Then if you want to argue the Su is a better fighter, you have to starting talking weapons & sensors - both of the airborne and the shipborne flavor (after all, fighter aircraft don't just go fly in circles - they are, in fact, working for controllers in an E-2, on a ship, or at a ground station) where the JSF wins hands down. In the missile environment, he who sees the other first usually wins.
Don't even get me started on bigger-picture items like aircraft control and pilot training... so if you think fighter jets do much of anything while on patrol without being directed to by a controller, then you're completely lost here...
Anyways, there's currently only like one, maybe two operational F-22 squadrons in existance - I'd probably hold my breath 'til all of ours come online and then you'll probably see the export of Raptor to close allies like Australia or the UK.
It has exactly DICK to do with fear or mistrust or anything else. It's our new shit that costed us untold billions of dollars to research and make, so quitcherbitchin about not getting one of our brand new toys. Why do people complain about American military might and then proceed to BITCH when we don't share that might with them?
Please, do elaborate. What attack aircraft? Carrying what weapons? The range of destroyer-borne weapons & sensors (of the American flavor, anyways) far exceeds that of any aircraft-borne system...k30dxedle wrote:
destroyers are screwed when faced with attack aircraft
It's actually named after Bush senior, not W.TigerXtrm wrote:
Or the USS George W. Bush... can't believe the named a ship after the cunt...
Well I'd say the carriers are capable, but those capabilities are fairly narrow - limited mostly to combat air patrol and strike warfare which are really just attributes of the embarked air wing, not the ship itself.
I realize most everyone here is a land-forces kind of buff, and in the past I've seen and participated in numerous debates about the capabilities of land-based platforms. I realize there may not be a large, knowledgeable, or interested crowd, so I guess I'll see soon if this is a bust...
So who has anything to say about naval platforms? Who has the best?
So who has anything to say about naval platforms? Who has the best?
rofl... this Swede is obviously well studied in the American psyche[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
Texas Cowboy mentallity...shoot first, ask questions later...
Why are there no good threads in D&ST anymore?
I honestly expected to see a few more people with a service backgroud considering the often military-theme of some of the material we talk about. Here's to more bickering!!
Name: Patrick
Age: 22
From: Indiana
Reside: Florida
Profession: Communication & information systems officer (Navy) - if I told you, I'd have to kill you...
Education: BS in Writing, concentration in physics
Political Leanings: "Kill their people and destroy their stuff until they see things our way"
Books: Anything technical about cars or the history of warfare
Name: Patrick
Age: 22
From: Indiana
Reside: Florida
Profession: Communication & information systems officer (Navy) - if I told you, I'd have to kill you...
Education: BS in Writing, concentration in physics
Political Leanings: "Kill their people and destroy their stuff until they see things our way"
Books: Anything technical about cars or the history of warfare
I'm pretty sure we don't have Jews trying to kill us over here in Amurrica... just food for thought.
People hate Jews 'cause they're Jewish and they're been the people everyone has beat up on for 5000+ years... people here hate Arabs because they seem to be the only ones declaring holy war on us and killing our civilians en masse, blowing up planes, etc.
Just food for thought.
People hate Jews 'cause they're Jewish and they're been the people everyone has beat up on for 5000+ years... people here hate Arabs because they seem to be the only ones declaring holy war on us and killing our civilians en masse, blowing up planes, etc.
Just food for thought.
bla bla bla WHO CARES... what a useless thread
I'd put TrashCat here, but Chuy would ban me.
I'd put TrashCat here, but Chuy would ban me.
O-1/surface Navy/communications & information systems
"Haze Grey & Underway - Overseas work is our specialty"
Hoo-ya
"Haze Grey & Underway - Overseas work is our specialty"
Hoo-ya
My dualie does quite well... BF2 doesn't hate any one particular piece of hardware, just shitty hardware in general.Des.Kmal wrote:
also, bf2 hates dual cores from what ive seen. in two internet cafes... both blowed when i put it on high settings. even medium..... kindof......
no one cares
US Navy, commissioned today...
With 2Gigs of ddr2 650 and a 3.0 dual core, I'm nearly always the first to load a map. I'd say that has more to do with RAM, but a nice cpu will kick some ass too...
News - timely and relevant. This is neither.
Still a huge proponent of knifing any vehicle possible, including aircraft. If you're that close without armor, you're fcked. Die doing something crazy - maybe you'll hit a fuel line.dankassasin42o wrote:
i tried knifing tanks, or using the defibs to cause a power short. never really worked tho
drop shadow ftw!
No dude he's french - he plays, but he just doesn't fight.
Snipers = mostly useless. BF2 is a game of armored mobility, period.
So what if you got 25 kills in a round? You weren't killing anything useful like armor or jeeps... you know, the things that take the people to cap flags. Being a "God amongst snipers" still leaves you with an inability to do anything but pick off a few guys at range. Feel free to wave as your bullets *plink* off the skin of my MiG or my M1A1. The sniper never has been, and never will be anything more than a niche role in this world of BF2. 'Tis fun tho.
So what if you got 25 kills in a round? You weren't killing anything useful like armor or jeeps... you know, the things that take the people to cap flags. Being a "God amongst snipers" still leaves you with an inability to do anything but pick off a few guys at range. Feel free to wave as your bullets *plink* off the skin of my MiG or my M1A1. The sniper never has been, and never will be anything more than a niche role in this world of BF2. 'Tis fun tho.
Someone was good in Spain.CameronPoe wrote:
I leave to go to the bull run in Pamplona last Thursday with less than 70 karma and come back to 192 karma! WTF!
What they said.
teh gheyjkohlc wrote:
teh winspawnofthemist wrote:
winnerSharkyMcshark wrote:
Yeah, AT
BEcause the Mp5 is like a toy
Just installed it on my x64 system.. didn't even play BF2 with it, as it took me 3 minutes to startup as opposed to my usual 30 seconds. Immediate uninstall! Didn't experience this issue with the latest final release x64 drivers.
Well maybe I could qualify my remarks here with something I shoulda included at first - I put this in the AF section because I was specifically referring to evading AA with the A10, Q5, and SU39. Barrell rolls will work with the fighter jets, but these attack jets are entirely too slow and unmanouverable to do anything fancy. Just get low, get away.
With afterburners and a quicker jet, you can have luck with doing rolls - you just gotta time 'em right!
Many of the tactics you all have posted can see success on a number of different levels and in different situations - a truly adept pilot will learn to recognize these situations and employ each of these tactics in turn.
With afterburners and a quicker jet, you can have luck with doing rolls - you just gotta time 'em right!
Many of the tactics you all have posted can see success on a number of different levels and in different situations - a truly adept pilot will learn to recognize these situations and employ each of these tactics in turn.
BF3? They can't even get their BF2 shit together lol
Well, the low altitude flying is designed only to defeat the lock - other than that, I suggest very high altitudes whenever possible.
Essex whoring?
I love jets. I hate patches. Why, you ask? Same reason all of us pilots do - the AA now locks on better and hits awfully hard. After playing AF for about 25 hours (I got my ribbon, thank you!), I've discovered a tactic to avoiding AA with a high success rate. This tactic will NOT prevent every missile from hitting you, but it will damn sure prevent 3 from doing so. Here goes.
1. When you hear beeping tone for more than second and ideally before lock is acheived, POP FLARES IMMEDIATELY and DIVE RAPIDLY to the deck. Get under your flares while still gaining distance from the AA launcher. This serves a twofold purpose: a - flares fall rapidly. The longer you're around your flares (ideally below them), the longer the flares screw with the AA lock. b - many AA sites and mobile AA will find themselves located inconveniently around obstructions on the ground. If you defeat the lock until you can get these obstructions in between you and the launcher, or if you can defeat the lock long enough to get out of their range, you're golden.
2. Don't do any dumb shit like barrell rolls or sharp turns. You're only delaying the time in which you stop loitering in the range of the AA. Distance is your friend, and manouvers only prevent you from opening this distance. If the AA acheives lock, you're probably screwed.
I've had great success with this tactic. Please try it, play with it, and come back and let me know if it worked for you, and if you have anything to add to make it better!
With all this being said, here are a few more AA pointers:
1. Don't go into combat with a crippled plane or helo. Self explainatory.
2. When you are being shot at, USE YOUR CAMERA ANGLES to see where the shot came from. On next approach, approach the AA from a high angle (70 degrees or greater) from a different bearing from which you approached and left if last time. Keep 'em guessing.
3. Don't fly aimlessly all over the map. Stay to the edges and only fly over the main battlefield or at low altitude if absolutely necessary.
Now get out there and try it!
1. When you hear beeping tone for more than second and ideally before lock is acheived, POP FLARES IMMEDIATELY and DIVE RAPIDLY to the deck. Get under your flares while still gaining distance from the AA launcher. This serves a twofold purpose: a - flares fall rapidly. The longer you're around your flares (ideally below them), the longer the flares screw with the AA lock. b - many AA sites and mobile AA will find themselves located inconveniently around obstructions on the ground. If you defeat the lock until you can get these obstructions in between you and the launcher, or if you can defeat the lock long enough to get out of their range, you're golden.
2. Don't do any dumb shit like barrell rolls or sharp turns. You're only delaying the time in which you stop loitering in the range of the AA. Distance is your friend, and manouvers only prevent you from opening this distance. If the AA acheives lock, you're probably screwed.
I've had great success with this tactic. Please try it, play with it, and come back and let me know if it worked for you, and if you have anything to add to make it better!
With all this being said, here are a few more AA pointers:
1. Don't go into combat with a crippled plane or helo. Self explainatory.
2. When you are being shot at, USE YOUR CAMERA ANGLES to see where the shot came from. On next approach, approach the AA from a high angle (70 degrees or greater) from a different bearing from which you approached and left if last time. Keep 'em guessing.
3. Don't fly aimlessly all over the map. Stay to the edges and only fly over the main battlefield or at low altitude if absolutely necessary.
Now get out there and try it!
I'll be there tonight! I'm looking for a good regular server...
Try THIS - I guarantee it will work a majority of the time! Once you hear tone, pop flares and DIVE IMMEDIATELY as LOW as you can as QUICKLY as you can. Get beneath your flares FAST, and don't try any fancy shit! You may get hit once and on occasion twice. Haven't been killed this way yet unless I was already low on health. Try it, if it works.. let me know you've had success with it too!!
I gots it.. I have less than 25 hrs.. who knows!cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
problyblade-bunny wrote:
50h while in the US Theatre.
1s while playing Operation Road Rage.
1s while playing Operation Harvest.
1s while playing Midnight Sun.
Something like that.