Ya, that's a pretty Double-standard thing to say. I wonder if Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, China...etc all share your same point of view.DesertFox423 wrote:
Wow, I haven't seen this Bush-bashing video before. Thanks for being so original. Unless you're a citizen of this country, you have no say in matters of our nation.
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There you go again...ignoring the facts..Why hasn't the Pentagon released Irrefutable evidence?? You're fucked man. Ya....Jay Leno site..wanker|AIA| DAS wrote:
You are obviously a lunatic. I've showed you photos of the wreckage... Explain the peices of the Rolls Royce jet engine found inside... Even people at Rolls Royce identified that wreckage as the engine of a 757. You sir are either a child or just an ignorant conspiracy theorist.cosmichippo fucking clown shoes wrote:
Man, you are a naive sad soul. 9/11 was/is a SHAM fronted and funded by your govt. period. I don't give two shit s what you say. It's a Fin no brainer. The Pentagon was used to attract the media..The highest security in the world is credited to the Pentagon and they still can't fin muster a decent footage to show it's people. WTC tragedy hasn't got half as much coverage as the Pentagon. If you had any Fin inclination to find out the truth, you would base your pathetic research on real plane wreckages.|AIA| DAS wrote:
OMFG What I was saying, if you could read and comprehend you would understand. I was saying they would be dealt with like the dealt with Oswald, Jack Ruby shot him. Then Ruby got shot... NO LOOSE ENDS!
If 9/11 was a coverup, only about 1200 people would have to be involved in keeping it a secret. That wouldn;t be hard to do, would it.
Yeah, I meant illegal immigrants. Out of 300,000,000 it's still not much of the population. YOU SAID MOST OF THE POPULATION. Tool.
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main
Go watch your fucking FOX news wanker!
Your flash video was cute...
Quotes from people no one's ever heard of... Who the hell is Skarla? Madonna's sister?
If you can read read this.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science … =6&c=y
PWNED!
Nice pics of plane wreckage..lol it was a 757 not a fucking Cesna retard
Man, you are a naive sad soul. 9/11 was/is a SHAM fronted and funded by your govt. period. I don't give two shit s what you say. It's a Fin no brainer. The Pentagon was used to attract the media..The highest security in the world is credited to the Pentagon and they still can't fin muster a decent footage to show it's people. WTC tragedy hasn't got half as much coverage as the Pentagon. If you had any Fin inclination to find out the truth, you would base your pathetic research on real plane wreckages.|AIA| DAS Some ignorant Kid wrote:
OMFG What I was saying, if you could read and comprehend you would understand. I was saying they would be dealt with like the dealt with Oswald, Jack Ruby shot him. Then Ruby got shot... NO LOOSE ENDS!
If 9/11 was a coverup, only about 1200 people would have to be involved in keeping it a secret. That wouldn;t be hard to do, would it.
Yeah, I meant illegal immigrants. Out of 300,000,000 it's still not much of the population. YOU SAID MOST OF THE POPULATION. Tool.
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main
Go watch your fucking FOX news wanker!
Good call manUnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Actually, I didn't say anything about who was behind it. There isn't really any proof of who did, at least none is available to the public. I merely pointed out that saying the passengers are dead so it must have been suicide pilots is pointless, as doesn't take into account the possibility of remote piloting.stryyker wrote:
are you saying that the government rammed a plane with 100 passengers aboard into a financial headquarters. forshame for your ignorance.UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Well, if Global Hawk technology was used and not suicide pilots then they are exactly where the reports say they are...
There is no proof that is was Al Qaeda, no proof that is was CIA and no proof that is was Mossad agents.
Just lots of circumstantial evidence: http://www.sundayherald.com/37707
The clouding and coverup of the facts and the half-arsed investigation could also be considered circumstantial evidence, but they don't actually prove anything. It could be just incompetence that lead to most of steel building being recycled without extensive and publicised forensic examination.
I agree, the scary thing is, people rely on that BS news for their info,. No wonder they are so confused.lol If people really want to know what FOX news is about I suggest watching this. http://www.outfoxed.org/HeimdalX wrote:
I love people that are so far to the right that they call Fox News Liberal or Mainstream.
Try watching BBC news and compare.
Lee harvey Oswald style..lol and I suppose you think it was he that shot J.F.K? Why don't you watch the assaination video again. Once the car has already passed the observatory tower and he is shot in the head, his head flys "BACKWARDS" not forwards like physics would demand.|AIA| DAS wrote:
No sense argueing with this punk, He's lost his mind!!!!!cosmichippo"Madman Crazy Canuck" wrote:
Educate myself? LOL whatever. Dude..you are unbelievable..you believe that crap? Its a perfectly punctured hole...as well, there is no plane wreckage, at all!!! Planes leave wreckage Einstein. Windows are still in tact just feet where the "cruise missile" went threw the building. The pentagon is the most highly secured building in the world, lets have some real footage please...there is hundreds of cameras that covered that side of the building...nothing , i say again, nothing concrete form your Govt has been released to prove a "plane" hit the pentagon. Too funny..educate myself..lolKmarion wrote:
ooor educate yourself.
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=5154
I think we war mongling American should invade Canada it wouldn't be tough.
The surrender will come quickly, they're French after all...
Let's not foget that not only do they speak French but a lot of them are. We should see white flags before we even leave home!
America Canada
Armed Forces Budget: $276,700,000,000 $7,861,000,000
Manpower: 73,597,731 7,158,016
Best Ground Weapon: M-1 Abrams Tank "Mounties"
Military Hero: Gen. MacArthur Dudley Do-Right
Patriotic Music: Lee Greenwood Celine Dion
Backbone: Fully Developed Missing
Secret Weapon: Stealth Technology Rabid Beavers
We're letting Canada keep the North. It will from now on be known as the smaller version of Canada, "Canadi" (Pronounced "Canadee"). The plan for the new border is below:
http://www.invadecanada.us/boundries4.gif
http://www.invadecanada.us/
First of all, "mongling" is not a word genius...it's"mongering" Second,We are a Bi-lingual country...that doesn't make us stupid, that makes us more intelligent. An ignorant person like you assumes we are all French and live in igloos. Thirdly, What is America? It's a country full of immigrants!!! Most of which are illegal! Do you know what Deep Integration is? Probably not lol ...why don't you look that up. Your boundaries are a little off.
To be proud that your country is shady, blood thirsty, power hungry, is your own prerogative. Good for you. I take pride in being the most helpful, peaceful, country in the world. Oh, and an additional note to prove that you are war mongers, continue reading.
Just in case you've gotten the impression that the Bush administration isn't seriously considering a military strike against Iran using both conventional and nuclear weapons, see the Amer can Progress Action Fund's 4-10-06 Progress Report, "The Nuclear Option." You can read it below or at: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/s … p;b=917053
We should be deeply skeptical about the legitimacy of the Bush administration's cause for war, because: (a) we know that the war-profiteering neocons prefer their illegal "Bush Doctrine of Preemptive War" to the civilized pursuit of diplomatic and juridical solutions; (b) we have every reason to believe that a conventional aerial strike against Iran would quickly escalate into a regional war with global terrorist blow back; and (c) their plan for a nuclear strike against Iran is "completely nuts," insofar as it would be both a monstrous war crime and a humanitarian disaster of the first magnitude......but what's new?? Never stopped you before.
If Americans thought for a minute to invade Canada, you would be invaded by most countries of the world almost instantly. I'm proud that we are not WAR MONGERS as you. Besides that, every Canadian soldier is trained 5 jobs to every Americans 1. Wouldn't want to overload your brain. I know driving a Hummer and then changing its tire is quite a feat. (I seen it happen. Pulled over in my M109 Howitzer to a broken down American HumV with buddy sitting in the front twiddling his thumbs. I said to him, "Do you need a hand? What's the problem?" he says, "Oh nothing, just waiting for the tire guy to get here to change it." The Spare is mounted on the back.) LMAO
Educate myself..you're funny man..i would tear you up on Current events and world issues.
"Most of the immigrants in America are illegal." Let's look at this statement... America's population around 300,000,000, illegal immigrants (estimated) 12,000,000, percentage of illegals = 4%
"Where is the plane wreckage?" - How about here...
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack008.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack007.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack006.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack005.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack004.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack003.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack002.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n191 … ack001.jpg
Think of it this way, if there was a conspiracy. There would be no loose change video. Think about it, the guys that made the video would have been dealt with Lee Harvey Oswald style.
Also, don't get me wrong to the other canadians here, I love Canada. But the invade Canada thing, I'm sure was a joke, But even if it wasn't you can't obviously believe any of the crap you typed about holding your own. Please say your joking, if the US government wanted to it would have done it by now.
As far as the immigrant thing goes, I was driving home a point, why don't you read some real statistics.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back1405.html
You people make me sick. Have you even taken the time to read Operation Northwoods. Declassified F.B.I documents. Explain them please. GAWD you people are naive.stryyker wrote:
are you saying that the government rammed a plane with 100 passengers aboard into a financial headquarters. forshame for your ignorance.UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Well, if Global Hawk technology was used and not suicide pilots then they are exactly where the reports say they are...Kmarion wrote:
Where are all the dead passengers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods --a decent overview
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010 … hwoods.pdf ----why don't you read this, seriously, my good God, your own Govt is giving you the ammunition, the smoking gun, use the information. FFS
The fact of the matter is, I have done my research, and yes, I most certainly believe my conclusions. 9 of the hijackers are still alive. I don't necessarily beleive that there were 19 hijackers on that plane. It's so easy for you to pass off anything other than the "norm" or mainstream news as "conspiracy theories". Instead of just bashing somebody for their views, why don't you seriously try and educate yourself!! Tell me this, don't beat around the "Bush" either, what happened to building 7?? Explain please.AAFCptKabbom wrote:
A message for COSMICIPPO
I will not waste space in this or any forum to quote any of the complete and utterly fucked-up garbage you posted. I can see you have way too much time on your hands and worse than that - you probably read and believe your own rantings!
I respect everyone and their views and opinions, including yours, but really man - CHECK YOUR FUCKING OXYGEN GAGE! - you gotta get out more. Use your god given brain and think for yourself and try to educate yourself before you twist other peoples writings.
You really think anyone survived and is living elsewhere, you really think the President {a man, a human being} could or would do such a thing, you really think that there is a plan put to action to remove our liberties and make us dependent so others become more powerful, etc. Well of course you do - I seriously believe you need professional help, no I mean it seriously - ever see "A Beautiful Mind"?
God save us from ourselves,
Kaboom.
http://www.welfarestate.com/911/
http://911review.org/
http://www.communitycurrency.org/9-11.html
You keep avoiding every single point made, even with "YOUR" mainstream media links that I provided.
I'm the one here going out on a wim. You are the one who is buying every lame story your Govt and Media throw at you. Why don't you use "your" own brain to come to your own conclusions. You just roll over and take it. LOL ...you will see shortly that my shared views are very very true. Please explain the patriot act 2? According to that, YOU are a terrorist or have the potential to be one. And yes, BUSH would do something like that, what are you retarted? Hitler was a human being too.
Its obvious that you don't like your perfect little bubble world interrupted. Yes I have seen a Beautiful Mind, did you forget the outcome of the movie dumbass? John Forbes won a Nobel Prize.
Hopefully you take my insults as well as I took yours.
Good call man!!jonsimon wrote:
Actually many of them are confirmed as alive and well in other countries. Somehow they survived crashing a plane into a skyscraper...Alexanderthegrape wrote:
Getting their virgins in hell.
President Bush signed secret document W199-eye two months before the attack of September 11, threatening US agents and obstructing their investigations of Al-Qaeda (BBC Newsnight Transcript, November 6, 2001: “Has Someone Been Sitting on the FBI?”; Times of India, November 7, 2001: “Bush Took FBI Agents off Bin Laden’s Trail”; AFP, November 7, 2001 “Bush Thwarted Probe Against bin Ladens”; Ananova, November 7, 2001: “US Agents Told to Back off bin Ladens”; The Guardian, November 7, 2001: “FBI and US Spy Agents Say Bush Spiked bin Laden Probes Before 11 September”).
The people were pre-conditioned before all of these attacks to give up their liberties so that the government could protect them from terrorists. However, we must look at who really stands to gain from these acts and at who has the motive. Take the case of the Oklahoma City Bombing. The government tripled the FBI’s anti-terrorism funding in 1996 after the attack, but, of course, more funding and police powers in the hands of the Feds only insured that the next attack would be worse. Now the government is demanding even more power and funding. They didn’t protect you in 2001 from Al-Qaeda, did they? No, instead they funded and protected the terrorists.
War.
Empires are built and maintained by it. Populations rally during times of war. Nothing on earth centralizes power like war. Throughout history, leaders have used this unifying force to control populations. Humans instinctively shift into mindless “group think” when faced by an outside threat—whether real or manufactured. Now, in the twenty-first century the system of control continues, but with more sophistication. If there isn’t an enemy to fight, one has to be manufactured. Do you need examples? Here are a few.
Nero and Rome--Nero torched Rome and blamed it on the Christians
The Maine and the Lusitania--On February 15, 1898, William McKinley’s navy committed treason when it blew up its own ship in Havana Harbor to create a pretext for war with the Spanish government. Simply by blowing up this ship, the Maine, the United States was able to finally dominate the Western Hemisphere and take control of dozens of islands in the Pacific. Then in World War I, when the American population was reluctant to enter the European conflict, the British sailed one of their largest naval auxiliary ships, the Lusitania, through waters known to be heavily patrolled by German U-boats. The Germans ran multiple full-page warnings in the New York Times, telling Americans not to travel on this ship which they knew to be heavily laden with armaments destined for the trenches. When German torpedoes sunk the Lusitania, Americans were faced with casualty lists of their dead countrymen and finally succumbed to war-fever.
Hitler’s Reichstag---And then, of course, we have the notorious Nazi regime’s use of the Hegelian dialectic. Adolph Hitler had already been elected president, but he wanted to abolish the chancellery and to make himself Führer. To do that, he had to create enough of a crisis to create massive levels of fear in the population so that they would willingly lay down their republic and give it into the hands of his monstrous system. Historical documents from Nazi archives show that on the night of February 27, 1933, Adolph Hitler’s Stormtroopers burned the Reichstag government building to the ground.
FDR and Pearl Harbor--It may have been a surprise attack to the American people, but it wasn’t to the federal government and the military. Months before the attack, they knew the Japanese were preparing for an all-out assault in the Pacific.
The History Channel and many historical records have reported that twelve days prior to the attack, Roosevelt knew the actual date of the strike.
The Cuban Missile Crisis and the Operation Northwoods Document--In the early 1960s, the federal government needed an excuse, a pretext, to invade Cuba. The government actually put the plan to paper in the notorious Operation Northwoods document. The story was first reported in James Bamford’s Book, Body of Secrets and carried in published media reports on ABC News (ABC News, May 1, 2001: “Friendly Fire: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War with Cuba”) as well as in the Baltimore Sun (Baltimore Sun, April 24, 2001: “New book on NSA sheds light on secrets: U.S. terror plan called Cuba invasion pretext”).
The 1993 World Trade Center Bombing--The October 28, 1993, edition of the New York Times ran an article headlined, “Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast” (see also October 31, 1993, New York Times; Chicago Tribune, December 15, 1993: “Informants’ Recordings Show FBI Had Prior Knowledge of the Bombing”). The federal government was caught on tape by their informants ordering them to let the bombing go forward, to cook the bomb, to give the terrorists the detonators, to create yet another crisis . . . this time to usher in a police state and a war upon the American people.
Oklahoma City Bombing--Oklahoma City’s NBC affiliate, KFOR, in a live broadcast immediately after the bombing, reported:
“. . . devastation that that one explosion caused, because here is now what we are starting to learn about the succession, or what someone obviously hoped would be a succession of explosions. The first bomb that was in the Federal Building did go off. It did the damage that you see right there. The second explosive was found and defused. The third explosive that was found—and they are working on right now as we speak, I understand—both the second and third explosives—if you can imagine this—were larger than the first. So try to imagine two or threefold happening what we’ve already seen there. It is just incredible to think that there was that much heavy artillery that was somehow moved into the downtown Oklahoma City Federal Building.”
A few minutes later, Oklahoma City CBS affiliate KWTV’s Jennifer Reynolds had the following to add:
“We just saw, if you were watching, there was a white pickup truck backing a trailer into the scene. They are trying to move people out of the way so they can get it in. It appears to be the Oklahoma City bomb squad—their bomb disposal unit essentially is what it is—and it is what they would use if the report that we gave you just a few moments ago turns out to be correct, that they have found a second explosive device of some kind inside that building. They will back that trailer down there, and the bomb squad folks will go in and they will use that trailer. . . . This is how they would transport the explosive device away from this populated area to try to do something with it.”
At the same time, CNN reported:
“The Justice Department is reporting that a second explosive device has been found in the A.P. Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Mike, you’re still with us aren’t you?”
[Mike Arnett, an attorney in downtown Oklahoma City, on phone with CNN] “Yes, and in addition to that, what we were told at the scene a few minutes ago was that in fact two different explosive devices were found in addition to the one that went off, for a total of three.”
It would have been an incredible help to have been able get a hold of those unexploded bombs. Unfortunately the BATF agents, according to police and firefighter testimony, were inside removing them and spiriting them away, because they had to keep their story straight (that there was only one bomb, a truck bomb)
September 11, 2001--- “What is at stake is more than one small country. It is a big idea. A new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve universal aspirations of mankind—peace and security, freedom and the rule of law. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective, a new world order, can emerge. Now we can see a new world coming into being, a world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order.”—President George Bush, State of the Union Address, September 11, 1991
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)—an organization publicly sworn to destroy American national sovereignty and to usher in a tyrannical police state—could not contain its glee on September 14, just days after the tragic attack, when its members announced their New World Order. At a meeting broadcast on C-Span, Gary Hart, co-chair of the U.S. Commission on National Security in the 21st Century, stated: “There is a chance for the president of the United States to use this disaster to carry out what his father, a phrase his father only used once, and it hasn’t been used since—and that is a New World Order.”
There it is. The CFR actually admitted that this crisis was helping it to bring in a New World Order, a global government.
Yes, you are right. Because the Frederal Reserve just keeps printing money. Basically with a notion of, "trust us, it's really worth something." Eventually, that will cease to work anymore.ts-pulsar wrote:
As odd as it may seem, the deficit doesn't really matter that much. It's never really affected the economy. The US has never defaulted on a debt, the lenders know this and know they will get there money back. We've got a nasty debt now. I was an econ major for a couple years before switching majors, and the one thing I remember all my econ teachers saying, is that the national debt doesn't really matter. And the trade deficit really doesn't matter. They look bad to those uneducated in the subject, which is most of the population, and it's a heavily used subject in politics, but it really doesn't matter.
I just know this is gonna make me start digging out my old econ notebooks.
Educate myself? LOL whatever. Dude..you are unbelievable..you believe that crap? Its a perfectly punctured hole...as well, there is no plane wreckage, at all!!! Planes leave wreckage Einstein. Windows are still in tact just feet where the "cruise missile" went threw the building. The pentagon is the most highly secured building in the world, lets have some real footage please...there is hundreds of cameras that covered that side of the building...nothing , i say again, nothing concrete form your Govt has been released to prove a "plane" hit the pentagon. Too funny..educate myself..lolKmarion wrote:
ooor educate yourself.So I guess you agree with his views on 9/11 also. Go re watch Loose Change...Crazy Canuck.
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=5154
I think we war mongling American should invade Canada it wouldn't be tough.
The surrender will come quickly, they're French after all...
Let's not foget that not only do they speak French but a lot of them are. We should see white flags before we even leave home!
America Canada
Armed Forces Budget: $276,700,000,000 $7,861,000,000
Manpower: 73,597,731 7,158,016
Best Ground Weapon: M-1 Abrams Tank "Mounties"
Military Hero: Gen. MacArthur Dudley Do-Right
Patriotic Music: Lee Greenwood Celine Dion
Backbone: Fully Developed Missing
Secret Weapon: Stealth Technology Rabid Beavers
We're letting Canada keep the North. It will from now on be known as the smaller version of Canada, "Canadi" (Pronounced "Canadee"). The plan for the new border is below:
http://www.invadecanada.us/boundries4.gif
http://www.invadecanada.us/
First of all, "mongling" is not a word genius...it's"mongering" Second,We are a Bi-lingual country...that doesn't make us stupid, that makes us more intelligent. An ignorant person like you assumes we are all French and live in igloos. Thirdly, What is America? It's a country full of immigrants!!! Most of which are illegal! Do you know what Deep Integration is? Probably not lol ...why don't you look that up. Your boundaries are a little off.
To be proud that your country is shady, blood thirsty, power hungry, is your own prerogative. Good for you. I take pride in being the most helpful, peaceful, country in the world. Oh, and an additional note to prove that you are war mongers, continue reading.
Just in case you've gotten the impression that the Bush administration isn't seriously considering a military strike against Iran using both conventional and nuclear weapons, see the Amer can Progress Action Fund's 4-10-06 Progress Report, "The Nuclear Option." You can read it below or at: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/s … p;b=917053
We should be deeply skeptical about the legitimacy of the Bush administration's cause for war, because: (a) we know that the war-profiteering neocons prefer their illegal "Bush Doctrine of Preemptive War" to the civilized pursuit of diplomatic and juridical solutions; (b) we have every reason to believe that a conventional aerial strike against Iran would quickly escalate into a regional war with global terrorist blow back; and (c) their plan for a nuclear strike against Iran is "completely nuts," insofar as it would be both a monstrous war crime and a humanitarian disaster of the first magnitude......but what's new?? Never stopped you before.
If Americans thought for a minute to invade Canada, you would be invaded by most countries of the world almost instantly. I'm proud that we are not WAR MONGERS as you. Besides that, every Canadian soldier is trained 5 jobs to every Americans 1. Wouldn't want to overload your brain. I know driving a Hummer and then changing its tire is quite a feat. (I seen it happen. Pulled over in my M109 Howitzer to a broken down American HumV with buddy sitting in the front twiddling his thumbs. I said to him, "Do you need a hand? What's the problem?" he says, "Oh nothing, just waiting for the tire guy to get here to change it." The Spare is mounted on the back.) LMAO
Educate myself..you're funny man..i would tear you up on Current events and world issues.
lol whatever then...you can beleive whatever you want. Government has always been corrupt..always. In any country. America especially. If youwant to beleive 19 terrorists flew into the WTC buildings, then you go ahead. Larry Silverstein even said himself that there was an order to pull the building. You make me laugh man. You believe everything mainstream has to offer you.|AIA| DAS wrote:
WTF does that have to do with anything. So a known liberal University has him speak on political issues. So F'in What. So I guess you agree with his views on 9/11 also. Go re watch Loose Change...Crazy Canuck.cosmichippo aka 2nd LT Ignorant Nutter wrote:
oh please..AJ is a nutter? You are so ignorant. You obviously know nothing about the man. He is your (as an American) God Sent! Here is your so called, "nutter". http://ksgaccman.harvard.edu/iop/events … amp;Type=P|AIA| DAS wrote:
President Bush called, he doesn't like your photo and is mobilizing a small girl scout troop to come up north and take control of Canada... Be afraid, be very afraid!
In all seriousness, You shouldn't quote an 'Alex Jones' site, if you want to be taken seriously...He is clearly a nutter.
Only ignorant people know nothing!kr@cker wrote:
the fact that no one knows anything about canada is comment enough
edit: and your bacon is shit, streak-of-lean rules!!
Canada is the BEST country in the world!!!
oh please..AJ is a nutter? You are so ignorant. You obviously know nothing about the man. He is your (as an American) God Sent! Here is your so called, "nutter". http://ksgaccman.harvard.edu/iop/events … amp;Type=P|AIA| DAS wrote:
President Bush called, he doesn't like your photo and is mobilizing a small girl scout troop to come up north and take control of Canada... Be afraid, be very afraid!cosmichippo wrote:
First of all, on your first point: Americans did not create the internet. Sir Timothy "Tim" John Berners-Lee, (born June 8, 1955 in London) is the inventor of the World Wide Web and director of the World Wide Web Consortium, which oversees its continued development.redhawk454 wrote:
I decided to put this post up because I am sick and tired of people from other nations putting myself and other Americans down. 1: America invented the internet, remember this the next time you feel America sux. 2: America is the home to Microsoft(ok bad example) but for most of the people who play BF2, that includes windows. 3 America bailed England and France out during WWII(plz dispute). I guess most of the other nations were fans of Adolf Hitler, he wanted complete gun control, so his subject couldn't resist, (he wasnt much different than Saddam Hussein). Oh I am sorry that was supposed to be about WMD's actually it was about human rights. Then again America entered WWII because Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, what did that have to do with the Nazi's and Europe? Ok Japan and Germany And Italy were the Axis powers. Still only Japan attacked us so why did we care if some other country was being controlled against their will? Because this is America. Afghanistan held Osama Bin Ladin. Saddam Hussein was no different than Adolph Hitler. No matter what I put here, there will be but this, but that, but its. I Invite other PATRIOTIC Americans to put their 2Bits worth in here. Just because its about time we told the world WTF.
On your second point, I don't need to bash Miscrosoft much...that's just too easy.
On your third point: George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3706/b … akexk6.jpg
The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, and new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.
Bin Laden and Bush: FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot." - The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.
Here is a detailed chart of the BushLaden Network: http://www.prisonplanet.com/bush_laden_network.htm
America and Saddam Hussein: Saddam Hussein may well have small stocks of chemical and biological weapons in his arsenal because we know from confirmed Senate reports that Donald Rumsfeld was dispatched as Ronald Reagan’s envoy in 1983 to sell them to him. Or how about the cataclysmic Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, when Washington, fully aware that Saddam was using mustard and nerve gas against Iranian civilians, calculated that it was better to keep backing him as the lesser of two evils. US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is shown in a clip from Iraqi television shaking hands with Saddam in 1983 when he was President Ronald Reagan's special representative for the Middle East.
Shown the clip 20 years later, Rumsfeld muses: "Where did you get this video? ... Isn't that interesting? There I am."
In conclusion: Paaaleease..open your eyes to the facts. Not Mainstream Media which is controlled and monitored by your Government.
In all seriousness, You shouldn't quote an 'Alex Jones' site, if you want to be taken seriously...He is clearly a nutter.
LMAO This is going to be pleasurable !!Kmarion wrote:
Well I guess you can be proud of Bacon and hockey cosmichippo.
The whole Internet subject has been debated already in these post.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms. … ry_id=3306
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175096,00.html
watch the video
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4435352.stm
SO many haters who claim to know what we know and think we are being blindsided by mainstream media. Saying the government controls the media is just plain funny. I can take all this with a grain of salt because I know the bottom line.
It's the poor little beaten red headed step child syndrome that so many others suffer from. The same reason you find it easy to attack Microsoft, because they are big and they pwn.
Oh and this is the computer Charles Babage invented.
And you wonder why you lag.
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Bacon and Hockey : Let me give you a few more.
AM radio (I'm sure you love listening to your Right-Wing, Liberal, Bush loving, FOX anchors here)
Invented by :
Guglielmo Marconi
IMAX projector and system (Maybe go catch a good Michael Moore film here. A guy who tackles all the mainstream issues yet avoids real issues like why NORAD stood down on 911)
Invented by :
Graeme Ferguson,
Roman Kroitor
and Robert Kerr
Telephone (With this, Bush can chat it up with his buddy, and business partner, Bin Laden)
Invented by :
Alexander Graham Bell
Television (Of course here you can be brainwashed, especially with your Main Stream media News programs, the best example that I can come up with would be ...hmmm....The FOX news because it's Fair and Balanced, and thats the bottom line LMAO I haven't watched T.V in 19 months)
Invented by :
Reginald A. Fessenden
Zipper (Where would we be without the invention of the zipper?)
Invented by :
Gideon Sundback
Music Synthesizer (Hell ya!!)
Invented by:
Hugh LeCaine
Electron microscope (Ya, that would be us stoopid Canadians that invented that)
Invented by :
Eli Franklin Burton,
Cecil Hall,
James Hillier,
and Albert Prebus
Trivial Pursuit (I would kick your ass!)
Invented by :
Chris Haney
and Scott Abbott
Basketball (Hockey? How bout this one as well big guy?)
Invented by :
James Naismith
Canadarm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Manipulator_System
Invented by :
Spar Aerospace Ltd
As far the Internet debate goes: How about you read what the original debate was first before putting your foot in your mouth!) The debate was, who invented the internet, not who controlled it. http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inven … ory070.htm Pay attention to the first two paragraphs. More specifically, the second)redhawk454 wrote:
1: America invented the internet, remember this the next time you feel America sux.
Tell me something...What do you think happened on 9/11?
What do you think happened in the London Bombings?
What do you think happened with the USS liberty?
What do you think hit the Pentagon?
What do you think about the Patriot Act...Even better, the Patriot Act II?
What do you think happened to J.F.K?
What do you think about Prescott Bush being possibly the single largest contributor to Hitler and the Nazi Regime?
What do you think about George Bush being a member of the Skulls?
What do you think about the US funding Israel since Her recognition of being an independent ?
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)
Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000
Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200
Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000
Grand Total
$84,854,827,200
Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630
Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel
Grand Total
$84,854,827,200
Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000
Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200
Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240
You don't have to answer those questions, but man, would I love to tear it up with you. I bet I know more about your Country at 28, than you will ever know in you life.
First of all, on your first point: Americans did not create the internet. Sir Timothy "Tim" John Berners-Lee, (born June 8, 1955 in London) is the inventor of the World Wide Web and director of the World Wide Web Consortium, which oversees its continued development.redhawk454 wrote:
I decided to put this post up because I am sick and tired of people from other nations putting myself and other Americans down. 1: America invented the internet, remember this the next time you feel America sux. 2: America is the home to Microsoft(ok bad example) but for most of the people who play BF2, that includes windows. 3 America bailed England and France out during WWII(plz dispute). I guess most of the other nations were fans of Adolf Hitler, he wanted complete gun control, so his subject couldn't resist, (he wasnt much different than Saddam Hussein). Oh I am sorry that was supposed to be about WMD's actually it was about human rights. Then again America entered WWII because Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, what did that have to do with the Nazi's and Europe? Ok Japan and Germany And Italy were the Axis powers. Still only Japan attacked us so why did we care if some other country was being controlled against their will? Because this is America. Afghanistan held Osama Bin Ladin. Saddam Hussein was no different than Adolph Hitler. No matter what I put here, there will be but this, but that, but its. I Invite other PATRIOTIC Americans to put their 2Bits worth in here. Just because its about time we told the world WTF.
On your second point, I don't need to bash Miscrosoft much...that's just too easy.
On your third point: George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, and new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.
Bin Laden and Bush: FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot." - The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.
Here is a detailed chart of the BushLaden Network: http://www.prisonplanet.com/bush_laden_network.htm
America and Saddam Hussein: Saddam Hussein may well have small stocks of chemical and biological weapons in his arsenal because we know from confirmed Senate reports that Donald Rumsfeld was dispatched as Ronald Reagan’s envoy in 1983 to sell them to him. Or how about the cataclysmic Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, when Washington, fully aware that Saddam was using mustard and nerve gas against Iranian civilians, calculated that it was better to keep backing him as the lesser of two evils. US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is shown in a clip from Iraqi television shaking hands with Saddam in 1983 when he was President Ronald Reagan's special representative for the Middle East.
Shown the clip 20 years later, Rumsfeld muses: "Where did you get this video? ... Isn't that interesting? There I am."
In conclusion: Paaaleease..open your eyes to the facts. Not Mainstream Media which is controlled and monitored by your Government.
First of all, please provide a link to establish that fact.(3 Lebanese being kidnapped) I have searched high and low and find that statement truly unfounded.Bertster7 wrote:
The kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers was in response to 3 Lebanese being kidnapped on their own soil. Hamas were not involved, this is Hezbollah we're talking about - Hamas is Palestine.
My apologies, I was on a roll, responding to several posts simultaneously on similar subjects.
Regardless...they are not classified as POW's. A POW ceases in retaining that title when it's captives hide the prisoner in secret and do not contact the proper authorities to brief on the soldiers, health, wherabouts, etc. There are other means of going about expediting "hostile" forces from your territory. It does not call for an abduction and blackmale to release prisoners. Defend it all you want. Those are the facts. Even if they should not have been in that territory, Hezbollah had ulterior motives with the capture of the soldiers; Primarily Blackmail to release POW's!
Israel withdrew from the "security zone" in the spring of 2000, under the Prime Minister Ehud Barak, who formerly ruled over the security zone as Chief of Staff. Israel continues to control a small area called Shebaa Farms, which Lebanon and Syria claim to be Lebanese territory but Israel insists to be former Syrian territory with the same status as the Golan Heights. The United Nations has determined that Shebaa Farms is not part of Lebanon. The UN Secretary-General concluded that, as of 16 June 2000, Israel had withdrawn its forces from Lebanon in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 425 of 1978, bringing, in the UN's opinion, closure to the 1982 invasion.Bertster7 wrote:
POW sounds about right to me - their has been a guerilla war going on there for ages. Unauthorised military patrols on foreign soil are also considered an act of war, so yes - POWs.
The capture of Corporal Gilad Shalit, being by itself an act of war, ceased to be such immediately after the soldier was hidden in a concealed location. Had Hamas wanted to acquire some semblance of legitimacy, it would have declared Gilad a POW, allow ICRC access to him to establish that he is alive and to report on his health, in short - demonstrate behavior expected of a polity. Such behavior would have allowed negotiations on exchange of prisoners (although most of the prisoners kept in Israeli jails could hardly claim the status of POW, but I am sure a way could have been found). Instead, everything that happened since the capture clearly shows that Hamas cannot liberate itself from the behavior pattern of a terrorist gang. Now the capture of Gilad Shalit became a kidnapping, and any demands issued by Hamas are no more than blackmail by a kidnapper.
agreedkr@cker wrote:
retard
You can refer to the above post as wellBN wrote:
So catching 2 foreign soldiers on your soil us not an act of war but detaining them is?cosmichippo wrote:
Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm
http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/
Regardless...they are not classified as POW's. Despite their illusions, or lack of, the point remains. There are other means of going about expediting "hostile" forces from your territory. It does not call for an abduction and blackmale to release prisoners. Defend it all you want. Those are the facts. Even if they should not have been in that territory, Hezbollah had "bad" intentions with the capturing of these soldiers. Primarily Blackmale to release POW's!B.Schuss wrote:
hm, let's see, Israeli Armed Forces enter Lebanese territory while actively engaged in skirmishes with Hezbollah militants. I am no IDF member, but I don't think they had any illusions about what might happen.cosmichippo wrote:
Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.BN wrote:
Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW
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You know, I wasn't there, but I wonder how it was possible that the IF soldiers could have been captured by militants...
Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.BN wrote:
Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POWredhawk454 wrote:
what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?
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Yes I have read the forum rules. Whats the difference in starting a hate/bash post against a nation, and calling somebody an idiot for doing so. And your paraphrase of interpretation of what i said is wrong. It was all meant to make you realize that Israel doesn't deserve the hate that you breed towards them. All cumulative points to drive one major one home. And as far as Hitler rising to power, The US. more precisely, Precott Bush, helped Hitler rise to power. As far as Ireland goes, yes, they earned and faught their way to Independance and Freedom. Needless to say, Ireland has plenty of dirty laundry, past and present.CameronPoe wrote:
Cheers for the insult - have you read the forum rules? As for your post: what exactly are you driving at? Basically you seem to be saying that we (the US) and Israel have been buddies for ages so no matter what either of us do (whether it is morally right or morally wrong) NOBODY should criticise us. Well I have to disagree with you there buddy. If I see something I judge to be wrong then I call it. I won't keep quiet on injustices. No need for the history lesson either - I'm more than aware of all of the Israel-Arab shennanigans over the past 100 years. I don't get what your point was with respect to the USS Liberty. Blind allegiance to any political entity irrespective of the acts they commit is the kind of thing that led to Hitler rising to power. I don't disagree with Israel's right to exist but evidently you probably haven't read half the posts I've made on this thread.
PS Nobody handed Ireland nationhood. We won it, with scant help from anyone else, through blood, sweat, toil and tears, thank you very much.
PPS I would find it an insult to George Washington , Thomas Jefferson & Abraham Lincoln to draw comparisons between their Americas and the Israel that unrepentantly grinds the Palestinian people into the ground. THey were men of values. Israel, sadly, have become misguided.
On your PPS...I disagree..i think presented with the history between the 2 countries over the past 60 years or so, they would strongly agree with me. They had nothing to do with any of the points that I made.
Now that's a weak mind. I choose neither, and if I had to choose, I choose to die.Bubbalo wrote:
Neither, but if I had to choose, Israel destroyed. That would take away much of Islamic terrorism support base (those upset about Israel, sp. Palestinians in refugee camps).
Ultimately, yes, you are correct. However; when you consider these facts...they are two of a kind (US & ISR) So I don't blame Israel for what they are doing, they are bullied and hands basically forced. I have posted these facts elsewhere but thought you might benefit from its feedback. Also, I felt that these fit in quite well for this post.PuckMercury wrote:
oooh, NPR ... that clarifies it
Think of it this way - what the hell would Israel have to gain from blasting a UN outpost?do you punish the manufacturer of the gun in murder trials? A tool is neither good nor evil, neither it its manufacturer. The morality lies in they who impliment it.alpinestar wrote:
I bet america regrets bomb deliveries to Israel now.
The US was the first country to recognize Israel, only minutes after it was officially created in 1948 2. The United Nations has been generally hostile to Israel and often the US was her sole defender in the world body. Israel has returned the friendship by voting solidly with the US on virtually all issues. 3. After Israel became an independent country in 1948, the United States joined an embargo on weapons sales to Israel, the 1949 Tripartite Agreement on weapons. Although the US sold hundreds of millions of dollars in weaponry to Arab states during the 1950s and early 1960s, there were no sales to Israel until 1962 when the US agreed to sell to Israel its first significant American system, the HAWK anti-aircraft missile. My point to that was simply to establish that the doctrine of maintaining Irael's "qualitative edge" over its neighbors was born in the war's (Yom Kipper) aftermath. 4. And how about Economically speaking; Israel is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world. Several bi national programs allow American companies and universities to benefit from Israel’s expertise in agriculture and high technology, while others aim to break down barriers to trade and cooperation between the two countries to make collaboration easier. Israel was the first country to sign a free trade agreement with the US, which has resulted in a quintupling of trade between the two countries. The US-Israel Free Trade Agreement (FTA) has served as a model for other trade agreements including the October 2000 FTA between the US and Jordan. 5. Jews are powerful and influential in the USA. But if no Jew had ever set foot in America, the United States and Israel would tend to understand each other nonetheless--because they are two of a kind.
Cameron, you really are the idiot in all of this. You start a post, to bash Israel, saying how hostile, inhumane, ruthless and predictable they are.CameronPoe wrote:
Hmmmmm. I think you're confusing Syria with Lebanon. There happens to be an internationally recognized border between the two countries. Why do the general Lebanese populace pay the price for the acts of a few rogue syrian/palestinian/iranian elements operating outside the law within their country?jonnykill wrote:
LOL you act as if the Syrian Government is doing anything and everything to stop Hezbolah and stop open support from Iran for terror strikes . Please . Israel has been under constant attack and in the iron sights of weapons every day since the 50's . One thing about Arabs is they never accept loss . One thing about Israelis is they stick together to the end . Just deal with it and STFU . You don't live there .
It's your kind of attitude that sickens me. Tit for tat mindless murder and destruction only deepens problems - it will NEVER solve them. There are other ways of dealing with guerrilla warfare. If I was a Palestinian I wouldn't accept my loss either - injustice should never be tolerated - fight injustice to the bitter end I say.
I don't live there so I should STFU? Well maybe if the rest of the world stopped bankrupting your international law-violating little nation you might not be shouting STFU so readily. Israel needs the assistance of other nations. As soon as that support is cut - Israel will die.
Israelis stick together in the end? Oh yeah - the secularists and religious factions in Israel get on like a house on fire don't they? LOL.
Do you know what the USS Liberty is/was? 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen. Let me guess, your ignorant enough to think that Israel designed and implemented that plan?It was one of the classic all-American cover-ups!! The USS Liberty was an electronic intelligence-gathering ship that was cruising international waters off the Egyptian coast on June 8, 1967. Israeli planes and torpedo boats opened fire on the Liberty in the midst of what became known as the Israeli-Arab Six-Day War.
In addition to the 34 Americans killed, more than 170 were wounded.
Israel has long maintained that the attack was a case of mistaken identity. Israel claimed its forces thought the ship was an Egyptian vessel and apologized to the United States.
It's simple..why would Israel want to attack a U.S. ship. Among them: Israel intended to sink the ship and blame Egypt because it might have brought the United States into the 1967 war. And furthered the States quest to Rule the Entire Middle East. ie. 1. The US was the first country to recognize Israel, only minutes after it was officially created in 1948 2. The United Nations has been generally hostile to Israel and often the US was her sole defender in the world body. Israel has returned the friendship by voting solidly with the US on virtually all issues. 3. After Israel became an independent country in 1948, the United States joined an embargo on weapons sales to Israel, the 1949 Tripartite Agreement on weapons. Although the US sold hundreds of millions of dollars in weaponry to Arab states during the 1950s and early 1960s, there were no sales to Israel until 1962 when the US agreed to sell to Israel its first significant American system, the HAWK anti-aircraft missile. My point to that was simply to establish that the doctrine of maintaining Irael's "qualitative edge" over its neighbors was born in the war's (Yom Kipper) aftermath. 4. And how about Economically speaking; Israel is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world. Several bi national programs allow American companies and universities to benefit from Israel’s expertise in agriculture and high technology, while others aim to break down barriers to trade and cooperation between the two countries to make collaboration easier. Israel was the first country to sign a free trade agreement with the US, which has resulted in a quintupling of trade between the two countries. The US-Israel Free Trade Agreement (FTA) has served as a model for other trade agreements including the October 2000 FTA between the US and Jordan. 5. Jews are powerful and influential in the USA. But if no Jew had ever set foot in America, the United States and Israel would tend to understand each other nonetheless--because they are two of a kind.
So Cameron, the point being. Israel is a puppet of the US. They cannot get out of that now. Both are pick-up nations created out of ideas, with populations drawn from all over the globe; they are self-made nations in a world where most nations had nationhood handed to them on a silver platter. Don't be so quick to point your finger at someone, things are not always as they seem
Actually, I think it is a very good analogy. It makes perfect sense. If you disagree with the pic...then you must also think that guns really do kill people?Spearhead wrote:
Yeah, but the whole point of guns is to kill in the first place. What a stupid pic, whoever made it has no f*ckin clue what their talking about. That's like saying Microwaves aren't used for burning, they're used to cook stuffObey_m0rph3us wrote:
What's wrong with that? Teach a child from an early age that guns are tools, not toys, and misusing them can carry deadly consequences.TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:
America is out of place with them though. Children have guns there. Children my cousin's age. That's fucking 6!
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/9553/gunman5rr.jpg
I have to agree with you..I've read a lot of his posts, I smell shit disturber...wait a minute, maybe it really is RUPERT MURDOCH!!-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:
i used firearms at 6, i used to shoot with my family at that age on a regular basis. i agree totally with what you said though. i was making a point of my own, his arguments are never fair or balanced. always half cocked, and intended to start shit.
At the orders of New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, the New Orleans Police, the National Guard, the Oklahoma National Guard, and U.S. Marshals......Yes, a lot of local municipality, but the Feds, without a doubt, were involved in this type of decision making.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Agreed, good points. So than who in The Bush Administration? Or is it just some blanket statement covering anyone in a federal position just because Bush is in office?
But it seems to me that we shouldn't let our substantive views of the wisdom of the confiscation order cloud the legal question of whether it violated Louisiana law.
I never singled out Bush as doing such; I said the Bush Adminsitration. You have a point with the middle management, however; I think in these situations (major catastrophe) the Federal Gov't is most definitly calling the shots. You have to factor in the possibility of deaths within that middle management who would precide and live in that particular area. As well, the resources the Federal Gov't has (The Army for example) surely outweigh, outnumber and out do, anything local/state gov't is going to be able to provide.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
1) I know what FEMA stands for, but yeah good point, however Bush doesn't sit around and tell FEMA to do this and do that, FEMA is actually the most powerful entity in the government, because the director of said agency has the authority to override, even the president in rare cases, in emergency situations.
2) Duh. But you can't just blame the top for errors in judgement of middle management. Shit only runs uphill for certain situations.
2 answers for ya...1. What does F.E.M.A stand for..FEDERAL emergency management agencyAlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
Ok, that makes more sense...However it was FEMA's fault and lack of coordination for the food,etc, but how is Bush responsible. Or anyone in the administration. Did someone personally order this??? +1 On everything else though.cosmichippo wrote:
I strongly disagree. The paramilitary police were used in conjunction with the door-to-door seizures. Along with a combination of local police. So the Federal Government does a horrible job delivering food and water to people they told to go to the Superdome, and then, almost two weeks after, they say the city is under their control. Their main mission: going door-to-door and confiscating American citizens’ lawfully owned firearms. This is treason. This is sedition against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and your way of life. If getting any valuable feedback at all from my post, please take it from this response.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
I agree with all your other comments, thanks for supporting us responsible firearm owners. But the Bush administration does not control New Orleans. With the incident in New Orleans, the federal government was not the one to make the decision to take firearms away from law abiding people.
and 2. Paramiliary police are Federal employees. The Bush Administration was in complete control of the situation.
Thanks for your feedback. It is fun to learn fron one another
I strongly disagree. The paramilitary police were used in conjunction with the door-to-door seizures. Along with a combination of local police. So the Federal Government does a horrible job delivering food and water to people they told to go to the Superdome, and then, almost two weeks after, they say the city is under their control. Their main mission: going door-to-door and confiscating American citizens’ lawfully owned firearms. This is treason. This is sedition against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and your way of life. If getting any valuable feedback at all from my post, please take it from this response.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
I agree with all your other comments, thanks for supporting us responsible firearm owners. But the Bush administration does not control New Orleans. With the incident in New Orleans, the federal government was not the one to make the decision to take firearms away from law abiding people.cosmichippo wrote:
against the Bush administration that is in control of New Orleans.
CameronPoe wrote:
At least China aren't imperialistic and tend to leave everyone else the fuck alone...Capt. Foley wrote:
What idiots voted China, do you want to live in poverty not be able to surf the web with freedom, and not be able to vote? And I forgot, what girl likes small Asian dicks? lol
Is that right ..well I will direct you too these links. China may not be Imperialistic atm, don't hold your breath too much longer on that. China is a communist, people oppressing state, period. And when the opportune time sheds light...don't kid yourself, it will happen faster than we could ever imagine.CameronPoe wrote:
I think you'll find China haven't done ANYTHING in recent history (~30/40 years at least) to suggest that they have imperialistic deisgns on any of the countries you mention. In fact - weren't China on the RECEIVING end of imperialism in WWII
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1425570.stm
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/china1/china_948.htm
America rocks..ya , O.K., with all do respect (so don't -1 me) I wish you Americans would wake up..You are being slowly, yet progressively, molded and controlled by a Dictatorship and don't even realize it. Hell, your own President even says so.BigmacK192 wrote:
U.S.A. FTW!!!!!!!!
America Rocks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByAsmfyVfk
He's pushing for the Patriot act 2 ..do you know what that means?? In case you don't, I don't want to take up too much space on this post so, here, indulge my friend.
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And I won't even get into your Presidents ties with what you have coined as "The Tali ban" and Osama Bin Laden. Or how his grandfather, Prescott Bush, former US Senator, helped place Saddam Hussein in power, and even more "shady", how he helped Hitler build his empire.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 … 40,00.html
Enough said about that. I could go on forever.
Kudos to that...way to call em out and on that note...=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:
That is very "un Australian", if that were ever actually said there they would not say "shrimp" but "prawn", since the word shrimp is not used in Australia.ImmortalTechnique wrote:
I think the Aussies should rule.... No worries m8, just put anothe shrimp on the barbi....
Cheers m8s
I doubt that phrase has ever been seriously used inside Australia and it was just a westernized movie selling gimmick, that has no authenticity.
doc. josh wrote:
i voted go fuck our self because canada will be the next super power.. rofl (that will nevrr happen(iam canaidan so dont -1 me))
This makes us look like No-Brain hillbillies...Seraphic wrote:
My vote is that we give power of the world to Canada. Seriously, who really hates Canada? They'd just walk over to whatever country is pissed off and be like "seriously, we're Canada eh?" and then smack the pissed off person across the face with a beaver and everything would be OK.
Don't pass this off as yours man...it is a very famous quote and demands respect.Kirokura wrote:
None. "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Lord Acton's epic warning that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Historian Lord Acton (1834-1902) issued epic warnings that political power is the most serious threat to liberty.
Born in Naples, he was educated in England, Scotland, France and Germany, developing an extraordinary knowledge of European political history.
While he never wrote the history of liberty he dreamed about, his essays and letters abound with memorable insights. For instance: "Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end...liberty is the only object which benefits all alike, and provokes no sincere opposition...The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to to govern. Every class is unfit to govern...Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
I like you..=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
if someone says bush...im gonna shoot them
Very well said.Spumantiii wrote:
maybe I'm being idealistic but I don't believe in superpowers, it can only lead to corruption
edit: kirokura already beat me to this
With all do respect, Britain is taking no such positive strides.. The London Bombings were not done by some radical Muslim group, or the taliban, or Al-CIA-da.Darth_Fleder wrote:
That is very true, in no way did I mean to imply or underestimate by and large the tremendous strides that Europe has made and the ingenuity of its peoples.CameronPoe wrote:
... but also to our own endeavours in learning from our mistakes and ensuring that they don't come to pass again.
Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.
Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.
The transcript is as follows.
POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
I voted "Go Fuck Yourself" for obvious reasons.
Actually, quite the contrary; My reasoning was perfectly accurate, ang Intelligence has everything to do with the word mental and plenty of otherwise.Bubbalo wrote:
Whilst I agree with in disagreeing with him, your reasoning is poor. Intelligence does not have to do with mental weakness or otherwise.
Wikipedia Definition Of Intelligence:
Intelligence is a general mental capability that involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn. In psychology, the study of intelligence is related to the study of personality but is not the same as creativity, personality, character, or wisdom.
I don't think so. I might own a ripped copy for shits and giggles. (I own over 40 PC games, all are baught and paid for.) I think EA is targeting the consumer on this release. They have a great thing with BF2 and BF2s, I would like to hold them accountable for all the bugs and fixes we have incurred. If you can design program codes to make a game like BF2, you sure as Hell can write program codes to fix stupid little issues.
Also, I will be glad to see all the wanker BF2 players leave....I'm willing to bet at least HALF jump the boat. That will be a sweet day indeed..leaving quite possibly, the best online war game ever to the rest of us who really love the game and play it for hobbie purposes.
Also, I will be glad to see all the wanker BF2 players leave....I'm willing to bet at least HALF jump the boat. That will be a sweet day indeed..leaving quite possibly, the best online war game ever to the rest of us who really love the game and play it for hobbie purposes.
Kudos to you man...you are right on the money...Our world is not in danger of global warming. Temperature patterns are in direct correlation with previous trends or patterns. The globalists would have you believe many of their "Artificial" problems by creating '"problems", in turn getting a reaction, (There are literally hundreds of Organizations formed as a result) and of course, solution,( legislation against, will call it, crimes against our earth.) In short, Gov'ts are masters of Problem, reaction, Solution scenarios. Just be aware of your resources, do your own research. Don't beleive everything you are hearing through mainstream media (This is controlled by the Corporations, Big Banks, etc.)jarhedch wrote:
not a threat, a boat load of media hype, look at the temperature records, warming and cooling is a NATURAL trend that has happened for millions of years, and climate change has yet to be proven in response to global warming. and that "great" institution known as the UN has become less accurate with their figures the more studies they have done. Sound like progress huh?
Dr David Viner, the senior research scientist at the University of East Anglia's climatic research unit, said the research showed that the sun did have an effect on global warming.
He added, however, that the study also showed that over the past 20 years the number of sunspots had remained roughly constant, while the Earth's temperature had continued to increase.
The Dr obviously suggests that over the past 20 years, human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation had begun to dominate "the natural factors involved in climate change".
Well, Dr Cosmic Hippo (Me) concludes that his findings are inconclusive because the study had not incorporated other potential climate change factors.
The Sun's radiance may well have an impact on climate change but it needs to be looked at in conjunction with other factors such as greenhouse gases, sulphate aerosols and volcano activity (Large volcanoes can inject huge quantities of dust and other gaseous pollution into the air. The most explosive volcanic eruptions are able to send material many miles up into the atmosphere, above the level of most rain clouds. Here the pollution remains for up to two years, blown around the globe by winds.This volcanic pollution blocks out some of the sunlight. At the Earth's surface this causes a cooling of the climate. If the pollution spreads all around the Earth, a global cooling of as much as 0.3°C is possible which can last for 2 years. An example of this happened in 1991 when Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines erupted.
Global warming - at least the modern nightmare version - is a myth. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy-makers are not.
Well..I read through most of the posts and was quite impressed with everybody's opinions.
My stand on Gun Laws is simple....As a society, we must refuse to allow our Gov't to control the purchasing, handling, and distribution of firearms in order to prevent a complete unarming of the populace. Yes, this is inevitable, it is, and has been in the process of becoming reality. I am a proud Canadian _Non-Gun Owner, X-Military) but I would like to help my neighbors South of our Border. I like American People...Your choice in Gov't, however, continually disgusts me.
The federal government has been chomping at the bit for decades to disarm the American people, and now an amalgamation of state and local police led by the BATF are having their deepest desire fulfilled in New Orleans.
Major newspapers are reporting that in middle-class neighborhoods undamaged by floodwater's paramilitary police are going door-to-door demanding citizens’ firearms.
The New York Times even admitted that this is so the citizenry cannot resist when they are physically forced to leave their homes.
There should be a howling, screaming the likes of which has never been heard against the Bush administration that is in control of New Orleans. If we let them legitimize gun confiscation for security, they are going to use this all over the country.
Lord Bush is already licking his lips and talking about making Gonzalez, a person who is adamantly anti-gun, his pick to succeed Rehnquist. All Americans can now count on this: when you're in trouble or when you're in crisis, the "authorities" aren't going to come with aid. They're going to send a squad of goons to take advantage of the situation, take your guns and drag you off to a FEMA camp. This is what we pay taxes for.
Seriously people...think about it...disarm the populace and complete submission by the people will follow. Opening the door to a Police state...completely giving up your civil rights.
Peace
My stand on Gun Laws is simple....As a society, we must refuse to allow our Gov't to control the purchasing, handling, and distribution of firearms in order to prevent a complete unarming of the populace. Yes, this is inevitable, it is, and has been in the process of becoming reality. I am a proud Canadian _Non-Gun Owner, X-Military) but I would like to help my neighbors South of our Border. I like American People...Your choice in Gov't, however, continually disgusts me.
The federal government has been chomping at the bit for decades to disarm the American people, and now an amalgamation of state and local police led by the BATF are having their deepest desire fulfilled in New Orleans.
Major newspapers are reporting that in middle-class neighborhoods undamaged by floodwater's paramilitary police are going door-to-door demanding citizens’ firearms.
The New York Times even admitted that this is so the citizenry cannot resist when they are physically forced to leave their homes.
There should be a howling, screaming the likes of which has never been heard against the Bush administration that is in control of New Orleans. If we let them legitimize gun confiscation for security, they are going to use this all over the country.
Lord Bush is already licking his lips and talking about making Gonzalez, a person who is adamantly anti-gun, his pick to succeed Rehnquist. All Americans can now count on this: when you're in trouble or when you're in crisis, the "authorities" aren't going to come with aid. They're going to send a squad of goons to take advantage of the situation, take your guns and drag you off to a FEMA camp. This is what we pay taxes for.
Seriously people...think about it...disarm the populace and complete submission by the people will follow. Opening the door to a Police state...completely giving up your civil rights.
Peace
I disagree..PuckMercury wrote:
funny thing about faith. It is required to believe anything and further any pursuit, logical or otherwise. You have to have faith that those teaching you are feeding you proper information. You have to have faith that the conclusions we have come to as a society before you are correct. You have to have faith that the methods and manner with which you engage in critical thinking is not simply programmed to further the conclusions already arrived at rather than potentially challenge them. True, strong, and meaningful faith can only exist within a wealth of knowledge.
It all sounds so sociopath, no feeling or emotions. ..where is your soul? Your being? Explain that to me..Innate awareness of wright and wrong, good and evil. If you can't believe in your own soul, I'm afraid you sold it long ago.
What kind of statement is that? Nice feedback to back your "opinion". lol What an ignorant statement.TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:
It's true.Bubbalo wrote:
"religion is a crutch for the mentally weak"..............................
I'm Religious and have a strong faith in Jesus..and my IQ is 136 at 28 years old. To say that I am mentally weak is rogue and ignorant. To imply that anybody who is religious is mentally weak is absurd, ostentatious, self-absorbed, and very narrow minded.
**Disgusted**
Despite your complete ignorance to others, I will offer you a compliment. I was moved by your experience and I hope you have received closure as to why it all happened. Take careHorseman 77 wrote:
I was late for work, and heard about plane one in the subway. " NBD I had been in both and knew they were built to the balls " Then I heard it was an Airliner. At work I watched the second plane hit. I thought " attacks ".
When the first building dropped I thought " This is just the Wrong angle to see it, its still there, They mean some glass fell out of the top story, It didn't fall " than I watched the second one drop from my office window. I thought " we are at War". We will be needed. I ran tons of cable over to set up communication centers for the massive triage center that was being set up at Javits. War planes were tearing back and forth across the sky. It scared some people I would say " those are ours ". The cops had taken the American Flags out and had them in the middle off 7th ave which everyone was staggering north on ( later no cop I talked to could remember who put them out there ) Then I headed down town to try and pitch in. By the time I got goggles and a mask it was to late. my eyes burned like hell. When I went home I walked up 7th ave and there was not one car. By the time I got walked home about 36 hours later my clothes had this funny electrical smell like a transformer that is getting to hot. People came from all over to help. Backhoes and cranes lined the streets in Que like a free rock concert was being given for heavy machinery. Some were from south Carolina, how they got there so fast I have no idea. Restaurant owners were setting up tables with portable burners making meals for workers. flat beds filled with every kind of soft drink were headed in bumper to bumper. We all acted as one. Untill Hillary came.
Thank you for addressing that...I voted null vote. As soon as I read the question it was the first thing that popped in my mind. I was surprised to not see it left from the list.Friluftshund wrote:
Why isn't "power" in there?
Reasons to go to war are more complex than any of those choices..
But no war is fought over religion - do not ever believe it!
Truthfully though.... Religion hands down. There has been more wars in the name of God, than any other single serving cause. No brainer really.
You actually had an offensive reaction to my comments, yet when this guy posts up about 10 befor mine, you have nothing to say. Who's the narrow-minded, as you put it, Fukin child?Horseman 77 wrote:
Cancel the " Its a hoax ! " bullshit please, just read and answer the question.... fukin child.
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Well the nuke would start WWIII IMO because all the freaking Middle Eastern countrys would blow their head off, and then everyone else would get tension and join fighting. Nukes arent always the greatest answer
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Wow, what a small mind you have, and ignorant to others opinions as well. You can deny the facts all you want...yes, the facts, but don't plunder your ignorance on the rest of the posts, let them make up their own mind.
I was stationed in Petawawa, Ontario at the time of the tragedy. I was actually sitting in our Mess hall with about 15 of my buddies after a nice long 10 km run , eating breakfast and watching the 72" elevated television. The channel just happened to be on CBC news at the time. I watched as the first plane had come in and almost fell out of my seat. I remember my initial thought was, "WOW, that really looked real, I wonder how they pulled that stunt off, I wonder what movie it is." Then of course, shortly thereafter, I realized it was real. y thoughts then were, "WTF, where the hell was NORAD?" Which leads me to my rant.....
Come on you guys, you don't buy that 19 hi-Jackers flew two commercial airliners at high speed into the two most single, most important, standing monuments (arguably) in history ? Paaaleeeaase. WAKE UP...Shortly after, 200 of my closest buddies packed their kit and headed to Trenton Airfield Base ready to fly down for Humanitarian support . (First Aid) We waited for two long days for confirmation from ...you guessed it, President George. W. Bush...he calls and says, "We don't want nor need your help, there is enough help here." Let me tell you why he would be so inclined to say such ridiculous remarks.
Any time an aircraft deviates from it’s course, the air traffic controller requests a military intercept according to military response code 7610-4J. This was the first time interceptors were not sent up in the history of this policy. The intercept pilots are trained to make a visual check of the cockpit… could this be the reason these interceptors were intercepted? Planes were sent to the New York area, after unprecedented delay, from Falmouth, Massachusetts rather than nearby Ft. Dix or Laguardia. Of course, they didn’t arrive in time - there was no visual scan of the cockpits.
We know that the technology exists to fly hijacked commercial airliners by remote control - it’s called ‘Globalhawk.’ We also know that the military has had an unmanned drone aircraft known as the ‘Predator,’ since 1994. A saboteur would merely have to reprogram the controls to switch from manual to remote; those airliners practically fly themselves already with the autopilot. This would require electronic security codes… acquisition of electronic codes would also explain the lapse of interceptor response due to sabotage. Furthermore, it’s a fact that Air Force One codes were known and punched in by a rogue source on 9/11, proving the presence of an inside, subversive element.
As usual, it’s not a good conspiracy, if it doesn’t involve a Bush! Introducing Marvin Bush - brother of George Jr. Marvin is a substantial shareholder and was on the Board of Directors until 2000 of a security company aptly named Securacom. This is not an ordinary security force with canvas badges and walkie-talkies; it’s an electronic security company, which was ‘coincidentally’ involved with Dulles Airport until 1998. Handling electronic security at Dulles seems like an excellent way to gain access to Air Traffic Control communication codes with NORAD, which is in charge of intercept missions. According to CEO Barry McDaniel, the company ‘handled some of the security at the World Trade Center up to the day the buildings fell down.’ How convenient, huh? Bombs were in those towers… Bush’s presidency was saved by these attacks - just something to think about.
Five of the twenty ‘suicide hijackers’ are alive and well according to the BBC and they want their names cleared. So who was flying those planes? We may never know exactly what happened with those jets; what we do know is that the official version crumbles under scrutiny. These planes were merely a diversion, as proven by the presence of bombs… that’s right, PROVEN!
The seismic record from Columbia University’s observatory in Palisades, NY (21 miles away) provides indisputable proof that massive explosions brought down those towers. At the precise moment the South Tower began collapsing, a 2.1 earthquake registered on the seismograph. At the precise moment the North Tower began collapsing, a 2.3 earthquake registered; however, as the buildings started to crumble these waves disappeared. The two ‘spikes’on the seismograph, which both occurred at the exact instants the collapses began, are twenty times the amplitude, or more than 100 times the force of the other waves. If the buildings had simply collapsed, the largest jolts would have occurred when the massive debris struck the earth, not at the beginnings of the collapses. Seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam of Columbia University stated, “Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion. The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small.” In other words, the collapsing did not cause 2.1 and 2.3 magnitude earthquakes. Furthermore, a ‘sharp spike of short duration’ is how underground nuclear explosions register on seismographs. Underground explosions, where the steel columns meet Manhattans granite would account for both the demolition-style implosions and these ‘spikes’ on the seismograph. Another seismologist at the Palisades observatory, Won Young Kim said the 1993 truck bomb did not even register on their seismographs because the explosion was ‘not coupled’ to the ground. Imagine the magnitude of explosions it would take to register the two earthquakes, when the truck bomb didn’t even show up.
Guys...I could seriously go on about this all night, but I won't. I had to respond to this post simply because I didn't see anybody asking questions about this...
May God bless the souls that were lost on that terrible day.
Come on you guys, you don't buy that 19 hi-Jackers flew two commercial airliners at high speed into the two most single, most important, standing monuments (arguably) in history ? Paaaleeeaase. WAKE UP...Shortly after, 200 of my closest buddies packed their kit and headed to Trenton Airfield Base ready to fly down for Humanitarian support . (First Aid) We waited for two long days for confirmation from ...you guessed it, President George. W. Bush...he calls and says, "We don't want nor need your help, there is enough help here." Let me tell you why he would be so inclined to say such ridiculous remarks.
Any time an aircraft deviates from it’s course, the air traffic controller requests a military intercept according to military response code 7610-4J. This was the first time interceptors were not sent up in the history of this policy. The intercept pilots are trained to make a visual check of the cockpit… could this be the reason these interceptors were intercepted? Planes were sent to the New York area, after unprecedented delay, from Falmouth, Massachusetts rather than nearby Ft. Dix or Laguardia. Of course, they didn’t arrive in time - there was no visual scan of the cockpits.
We know that the technology exists to fly hijacked commercial airliners by remote control - it’s called ‘Globalhawk.’ We also know that the military has had an unmanned drone aircraft known as the ‘Predator,’ since 1994. A saboteur would merely have to reprogram the controls to switch from manual to remote; those airliners practically fly themselves already with the autopilot. This would require electronic security codes… acquisition of electronic codes would also explain the lapse of interceptor response due to sabotage. Furthermore, it’s a fact that Air Force One codes were known and punched in by a rogue source on 9/11, proving the presence of an inside, subversive element.
As usual, it’s not a good conspiracy, if it doesn’t involve a Bush! Introducing Marvin Bush - brother of George Jr. Marvin is a substantial shareholder and was on the Board of Directors until 2000 of a security company aptly named Securacom. This is not an ordinary security force with canvas badges and walkie-talkies; it’s an electronic security company, which was ‘coincidentally’ involved with Dulles Airport until 1998. Handling electronic security at Dulles seems like an excellent way to gain access to Air Traffic Control communication codes with NORAD, which is in charge of intercept missions. According to CEO Barry McDaniel, the company ‘handled some of the security at the World Trade Center up to the day the buildings fell down.’ How convenient, huh? Bombs were in those towers… Bush’s presidency was saved by these attacks - just something to think about.
Five of the twenty ‘suicide hijackers’ are alive and well according to the BBC and they want their names cleared. So who was flying those planes? We may never know exactly what happened with those jets; what we do know is that the official version crumbles under scrutiny. These planes were merely a diversion, as proven by the presence of bombs… that’s right, PROVEN!
The seismic record from Columbia University’s observatory in Palisades, NY (21 miles away) provides indisputable proof that massive explosions brought down those towers. At the precise moment the South Tower began collapsing, a 2.1 earthquake registered on the seismograph. At the precise moment the North Tower began collapsing, a 2.3 earthquake registered; however, as the buildings started to crumble these waves disappeared. The two ‘spikes’on the seismograph, which both occurred at the exact instants the collapses began, are twenty times the amplitude, or more than 100 times the force of the other waves. If the buildings had simply collapsed, the largest jolts would have occurred when the massive debris struck the earth, not at the beginnings of the collapses. Seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam of Columbia University stated, “Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion. The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small.” In other words, the collapsing did not cause 2.1 and 2.3 magnitude earthquakes. Furthermore, a ‘sharp spike of short duration’ is how underground nuclear explosions register on seismographs. Underground explosions, where the steel columns meet Manhattans granite would account for both the demolition-style implosions and these ‘spikes’ on the seismograph. Another seismologist at the Palisades observatory, Won Young Kim said the 1993 truck bomb did not even register on their seismographs because the explosion was ‘not coupled’ to the ground. Imagine the magnitude of explosions it would take to register the two earthquakes, when the truck bomb didn’t even show up.
Guys...I could seriously go on about this all night, but I won't. I had to respond to this post simply because I didn't see anybody asking questions about this...
May God bless the souls that were lost on that terrible day.
I’ll tell you what I subscribe to. I propose that we have plenty of resources (tapped and untapped) to preserve our Earth for countless centuries. Ie. Go do some research on how much Oil we have in reserves, how much each country produces, imports, exports, and most importantly, how much each of these countries consumes. The reserves in Canada alone are astronomical when comparing our consumption and exports.
Furthermore, weak evidence that our New-World-Order, Neo-Cons, Globalists offer, would lead you to believe that we are in dire straits and approaching complete and utter decadence. Evidence what I subscribe to as, “artificial scarcity”. Yes, artificial scarcity…and bundled with that, they present it as a major “problem” and as a result produces a “Reaction” from the people, and of course following suit, a “solution”. Problem-Reaction-Solution, is not a new strategy or technique founded by our current sick and twisted leaders (and no, I do not mean Bush,--he’s merely a puppet to the real powers that be.) This strategy has been in place long before they ever conjured up such evil deeds. Most notably, Adolph Hitler and the fire at Reich stag, where he burned his own parliament to instill fear into the people (creating a Problem) and blaming the German Communist Party. As a result furthered his own power in Legislation, quickly establishing a Brain-washed Armageddon size army. Some other Notable Problem—Action—Solution scenarios are:
The September 11 attacks (go read the declassified C.I.A Northwoods documents), the Oklahoma City Bombing the1992 World Trade Center Bombing, and the incidents at Ruby Ridge, Idaho and Waco, Texas were actually instigated or exacerbated by the Federal Government as a means of further centralizing power and creating fear in the populace so they'll willingly surrender some of their Constitutional liberties for safety.
My big point in all of this is simple…Don’t be concerned with these ridiculous artificial scarcities..tackle the real problems before it is too late! I fear it maybe already to late.
Peace
Cosmic
Furthermore, weak evidence that our New-World-Order, Neo-Cons, Globalists offer, would lead you to believe that we are in dire straits and approaching complete and utter decadence. Evidence what I subscribe to as, “artificial scarcity”. Yes, artificial scarcity…and bundled with that, they present it as a major “problem” and as a result produces a “Reaction” from the people, and of course following suit, a “solution”. Problem-Reaction-Solution, is not a new strategy or technique founded by our current sick and twisted leaders (and no, I do not mean Bush,--he’s merely a puppet to the real powers that be.) This strategy has been in place long before they ever conjured up such evil deeds. Most notably, Adolph Hitler and the fire at Reich stag, where he burned his own parliament to instill fear into the people (creating a Problem) and blaming the German Communist Party. As a result furthered his own power in Legislation, quickly establishing a Brain-washed Armageddon size army. Some other Notable Problem—Action—Solution scenarios are:
The September 11 attacks (go read the declassified C.I.A Northwoods documents), the Oklahoma City Bombing the1992 World Trade Center Bombing, and the incidents at Ruby Ridge, Idaho and Waco, Texas were actually instigated or exacerbated by the Federal Government as a means of further centralizing power and creating fear in the populace so they'll willingly surrender some of their Constitutional liberties for safety.
My big point in all of this is simple…Don’t be concerned with these ridiculous artificial scarcities..tackle the real problems before it is too late! I fear it maybe already to late.
Peace
Cosmic