15/18.
They totally forgot about Tempest. Shame on them.
They totally forgot about Tempest. Shame on them.
Typing "noob" backwards? Heh.Speelbal wrote:
How childish were these admins...
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Well, also implement something akin to a karma system where you could only punish somebody if and only if you have a record of forgiving more times than punishing......once you punish more than you forgive, then you automatically forgive some x times before you are given a choice again.genius_man16 wrote:
well, that would help a lot i agree
but i've seen Captains that acted like n00bs, so it wouldn't help everything
i just dont' think that whether your punished or forgiven should have any effect on how many points are lost
Then any player who is under some arbitrary amount of points will not have the option to punish. How about setting the threshhold at Staff Sargeant (5000 pts.) before they are given the option to punish?genius_man16 wrote:
ooor.......... notjoemah wrote:
The person who got tk'ed shoudl decide whether or not the tk'er gets negative points or not.
that still leaves the problem of n00bs who punish for TK's when it was an accident... the whole point of this was to eleiviate some of that problem
[yoda]Superslim wrote:
What does it have to do with beer?
If I'm in the middle of the map or a hot zone, I will drop mine on the front side of a tank before repairing it. It usually results in my death IF they do steal it, but at least I know I can go get it back at my spawn point. Also, when repairing your own vehicle.........keep moving and look to your left and right while keeping the double rings intact. On some occasions, crawling underneath your tank and repairing it is your best bet, plus you can swivel around to see if anything is coming your way and you won't be in a sniper's crosshairs. A quick "E" button push and your in if someone is shooting at you and then you can move somewhere safer or kill the dude if you saw his muzzle flashes.nodehopper wrote:
I think an important point is for an Engineer in armor to be very careful when jumping out to repair it or to lay mines ...don't let the enemy steal it from you. Nothing worse then jumping out and laying a couple mines only to hear it start up and see that cannon turn on you. Losing a tank or ACP can turn the tide in a close round. If the stolen tank joins his buddies, who are all Engineers in armor, then your side may not get it back for the rest of the round. OUCH!
Totally concur with you, terrafirma......Ducks are looking unbeatable, but as a Ducks fan, I still expect a split in Colorado. Which game are you going to?terrafirma wrote:
Have to say that the Mighty Ducks have been playing very well.
It's tough for the Avs to score when they:
a) never shoot the puck higher than 2 inches off the ground and right into the goalie.
b) are beaten to every loose puck
c) cannot pass better than an 8th grade hockey team
d) look old, slow, and tired
I am still optimistic that they can make it a series, but it'll take scoring at least one goal.
That doesn't explain the causes for a flood.....these are small gradual movements in the plates, whereas "The Flood" was more instantaneous (40 days vs. millions of years). After all, the sea floor is still spreading (Atlantic Rift Zone for example) all of these millenia, yet there has been no global flooding recently, if ever.JaMDuDe wrote:
Im pretty sure there are plate tectonics. Sea floor spreading sped up during the flood. Heres how to explain subduction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subduction
Very possible that God created the laws of physics at the time of the Big Bang......hard to prove, but for me, quite easy to believe.No its not a coincidence, the earth was made for us. The laws of physics are "finely tuned" and didnt evolve.
Mountains have risen and fallen......The Rockies are getting taller, yet the Appalachians are eroding......at THIS point in time. The Hawaiian Island Chain is a classic example of mountain building and eroding WITHIN the chain itself, both happening at the same time.Mountains are still rising, that means that they werent as tall thousands of years ago. Heres a link for the the water problem http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Ar … lood12.asp Do you know how much water is in the deepest parts of the pacific? If the sea floor rose and all that water was spilled onto land that would be plenty of water. Then after the flood the water "receded" back into the great deep.
You are totally misunderstanding the dynamics of galaxies. The stars in each galaxy evolve at different rates, dependent on their mass. There are many different types of galaxies as well.....not just spirals, but barred spirals, irregulars and ellipticals (very old galaxies that may have started out as spirals billions of years earlier).......galaxies evolve too.Why couldnt the big bang happened thousands of years ago? Our galaxy is winding up so fast that if it were millions of years old it would be a featureless disc. But, its supposed to be billions of years and its still a spiral.
Been in the tunnel just 8 feet away from the Kings players as they go out on the ice every period. My oldest son (5 or 6 years old at that time) would be sitting on my shoulders and we would watch Gretzky, Robitaille, McSorely, Kurri, Granato, Blake, Taylor and Hrudey go out on the ice. Marty McSorely would always go down the corridor last when everyone would be chanting "Marty....Marty...Marty....Marty"......He would have a big shit-eating grin when that happened. Now he's doing commentary for Fox Sports and the Ducks. Weird.KingCheese wrote:
Hockey isn't really a huge sport here in the UK, NHL coverage is on at insane hours. Still, love watching a game when I can catch one. Don't really follow any one team, but I like to watch certain players. Eric Lindross, Luc Robitaille(spelling?), Dominic Hasek, and of course Wayne Gretzky have all been faves of mine.
.....FlyinHawaiian from TW Clan? I know that dude![J5]Dirrty.Magic wrote:
Nice job Hairy! I see you enlisted FlyinHawaiian to make that. I know someone famous!
The similarity to the Budweiser commercials was most excellent. I demand more of these!
Done that before......and as long as you're doing splash damage near the stairs or the ladder......the APC is in a good place to keep the flag......I worry more about the tank rolling down the street or any AT kitters from long range.doxed wrote:
an easy C4 target.Varegg wrote:
What good an APC does at that spot is however another question.
Heh.....I can only fill a large high school football (American) stadium.1927 wrote:
I support Cardiff City, its where my name 1927 comes from. (the year we won the English fa cup, thats right, we are Welsh). (football, UK style)
I have 20,498 kills (at time of writing).
Our ground cappacity "Ninian Park" will hold 21,000 people. Ive almost filled those seats/terracing with kills since purchasing the game.
Thankfully I don't support one of the bigger clubs say for eg, Man Utd as they hold 70k+.
Can anyone else show what they have filled?
Crap idea for a thread I know. Im bored at work thats all.
Drumroll please..................SilentNoise105 wrote:
Wow, Applied Mathematics and Computer Sciences? If you don't mind me asking, what type of a job do you have? I'm just curious because those are two areas I'm thinking about going into also.Yeticus Rex wrote:
I'm the third side....I'm grounded in the factual sciences, yet I still maintain my faith in God. Nowadays, it seems like a dying breed. I have degrees in Applied Math, Comp. Sci., with minors in Geography and Astronomy and yet have been pretty much a Catholic my whole life. Like I said before, I have reconciled my faith with science and I am at peace with it. I don't need to try to cram the Bible into science books and vice-versa......unlike some other people on this planet. There are other scientists as well as theologians who have the same outlook as I do.....not that I need their company or anything like that; but there are people who come to the same conclusions that I did, independently and usually on their own terms.
I'm the third side....I'm grounded in the factual sciences, yet I still maintain my faith in God. Nowadays, it seems like a dying breed. I have degrees in Applied Math, Comp. Sci., with minors in Geography and Astronomy and yet have been pretty much a Catholic my whole life. Like I said before, I have reconciled my faith with science and I am at peace with it. I don't need to try to cram the Bible into science books and vice-versa......unlike some other people on this planet. There are other scientists as well as theologians who have the same outlook as I do.....not that I need their company or anything like that; but there are people who come to the same conclusions that I did, independently and usually on their own terms.SilentNoise105 wrote:
Also, Yeticus, you said that there have been closed minds on 3 sides of this discussion. I'm just curious, but what do you consider the three sides? Besides that I would also like to thank you for the "very well written, thought out comment". I agree with agent.
To wrap this up I'd just like to say again that I'm sorry if I may have been a jerk. Yeticus's post made me realize that even though I may not have like jamdude's (or other people's) posting, I might have been wrong with the way I responded to some of them. We all can get frustrated when trying hard to make a point or showing a point of view.
Racist, yes. But we're talking about beauty here, not negative traits and/or attitudes/cultures. Can we not discuss such a wide array of beauty and admire them for their distinctive features? HELL YES WE CAN!!!Talon wrote:
Bit racist, this thread.
C'mon JamDude, I am trying to help you. Another -1? What up, my Christian whose-not-acting-so-Christian homie?JaMDuDe wrote:
you guys are n00bs -1 for everyone!
Hey Bob, when are you gonna put out another album? =>raz wrote:
If you're the best sniper in the world. I'm Bob Marley.
The "church" corrected their stance long ago......please read from Wikipedia....Flat Earth.vjs wrote:
This was not science it was observation. Actually if you really want to do into it the world was flat b/c the church said it was flat. (This is where the church is yet again wrong)the world is flat
And what 400 year period are you talking about? The Dark Ages? Any setback that you're clammoring about has been wiped out within the last century.Catholics or the catholic church has actually set science back by about 400 years, look at the muslim religion. The muslium should be way way way ahead of us scientifically but their religion holds them back as does christianity, by the will of Allah. (Err, that's because you didn't understand or won't accept a scientific observation)
Totally FALSE.....he was jailed for sodomy for two months. Again, Wikipedia is your helpful friend.Fact, Leonardo Da vinchi was put in jail, a devote catholic, b/c his scientific observations. His actual purpose was to show the pope of the time that the church was wrong. The church being a very old organization which is reluctant to change, they don't want to admit fault or incorrect conclusions. So they won't accept scientific fact.
If you are a Bible "literalist", (which I am not and probably a majority are not), the first statement might be true. Amongst the Catholic population (the "chrurch" that you are referring to), we are not that close minded although at times the church is slow to react to change. But change it did.Why has christianity set us back 400 years? Well in the begining God created earth and said it was good. Then god created the (Sun, stars, sky) said it was good.
Later science proved that the earth revolved around the sun. This was contractory to religion at the time, how could the earth revolve around the sun when the earth was created first???
Ok.....now you are just pulling things out of your arse. The "church" you are currently referring to is clearly not Catholic; you are just railing against Bible literalists. Who is spoon-feeding you this drivel? The Bible is there, take what you want from it. I don't refer to the Bible if I want to learn science, so I don't need to rewrite the Bible to be scientifically correct. The Bible is a spiritual guide to living a good life. I'll read an astronomy book if I want to learn astronomy and not expect others to rewrite those books because God is missing in them. I think many posters here have a hard time separating the two on both sides of the aisle.BURN HIM BURN THE WITCH
Well science didn't prove god wrong, not in the slightest, what it proved was man was wrong about the interpretation. They assumed since god said he created the earth first that later it couldn't rotate around the sun.
This one point stop science for 400 years, it wasn't until kepler that the church allowed science to let earth revolve around the sun. Shortly after that a numerous number of physical properties and scientific laws came about. Why b/c publishing this scientific commandments were previously held back by the church.
How can we man... expect to ever understand god. We should be smart enough to know that we can't interpret the word of god and must change our interpretation based upon observation.
The soul... yes it exists it's actually somewhat scientifically proven. The body once it dies takes some time before tit starts loosing heat. Well what is keeping the body warm? Also where does all the entropy go?
Is the ordering of energy in the universe simply the will of god/probablility chance? Absolutely...
If your scientific you are certainly religous, you take specific commandments and apply them to your observations. You also assume things that you can't explain and take them as the truth.
A good analogy is the agruement of good and evil vs darkness and light.
Perhaps does dark exist? no it's simply the absence of light.
Does evil exist? I say no it's simply the absence of good.
Major problem is it's difficult to keep light around it requires energy which wants to be distributed. Same goes for evil if things are left alone unfortunately they tend towards the absence of good.
If you want to get even more deep into this scientifically, what is containted in a bottle of nothing/vaccum/space etc. People say nothing... well this is and isn't true.
Between the earth and the sun, people think it's an vaccum with the odd atom running around. If this were true how does light propagate from the sun to the earth... there is no medium.
O.K. Light duality... non-sence... light waves are particles with wave a nature. What are they propigating through??? Dead non energetic light... Like religion science has yet to accept this, but we will and once we do we will understand alot more.
Religion should do the same, God is not against science, the church is against science. The church is people not god, science has never been against god only the churches interpretation of god. If religions can change rewrite the bible science should be able to continue without interference from the church.
How can we as people be so self centered as to actually believe that we can understand the will of the creator. I personally think this is blastfamy.
Sorry for all the spelling errors I'm a little pissed that the church can make it's way into a BF2 forum.
Screw the anti-darwin, screw darwinists, they are both wrong. It's puncated equilbrium!!! Call it spikes of creation followed by evolution of the creation. This goes with gods teaching, something is created then it evolves. Does man not do this himself, if you disagree don't bother typing simply throw your computer out the window and turn out the lights. Get a oil lamp and sit in your goat skin, since science must be a sin.
Dude! I'm waiting for you to finish your last post! I wanted to debate you because you had some pretty good points that needed to be addressed....XstrangerdangerX wrote:
Why will no one debate me? I fought I wrote real good.
Running out of time, must off to work.
I'll get back to you.
Not me pardner......I'm not that petty.XstrangerdangerX wrote:
Oh, and thanks for the -3 karma, so glad to see we're open to other viewpoints.
Yup.....Man has managed to muck things up on occasion. But the central tenets are still in place in virtually all religions.....Love for God and love (respect) your neighbors as yourself. Lutherans and seventh day adventists do agree on that, but they are not the only religions who would agree.XstrangerdangerX wrote:
Unless you were Lutheran. Or a seventh day adventist. Your view of God's acceptance is puerile and according to many branches of religion, catastrophically incorrect.
For some.....yes, but it really depends on what you do with your faith. Your notion is overall too generalistic and "weakness" is relatively different from person to person. What you may see is weak, others may see it as a strength, or maybe somewhere in between. But thanks for your anecdotal observation anyways.Anyway people, I think your belief makes you weak.
To the contrary....we've evolved enough to have the genes necessary for the capacity of faith, not de-evolved into animalistic instinctual behavior. It's funny how a person of "reason" such as yourself ignored the first few billion years of life on this planet when there were not enough brain cells of any previous and current species that showed a capacity for faith, until humans first appeared who were the first to question their own existence.God is a crutch, a relic from our savage past. We fear death, we fear being alone, worst of all we are frightened to our core that our lives, our actions, our very existence is meaningless.
Probably the most important thing next to discovering and controlling fire.So what did we do when we were cavemen and we started to wonder why the world was, who we are, what is our purpose? We created a creator.
Ah, the god-of-the-gaps argument. Like learning how to read and write, it takes time to refine our skills and use both reason and faith correctly when it comes to broadening our knowledge in the cosmos. We're still evolving, correct?Complex thoughts being beyond us we build a God into a burning bush and from there every facet of our life is tainted by this prejudiced notion of a higher being, a higher order to things. Our lives are linear, they go from start to finish, so even by medieval times the notion that things simply are was anathema to our perspective. We cannot picture a story without a beginning, and just as much we cannot picture something being made without an intelligence behind it.
Heh, my wife tends to disagree with you on that first sentence. A virus? Heh, who knew?You are meaningless, your existence has no purpose. 'Humanity is a successful virus clinging to the face of a speck of brown mud, suspended in infinite nothingness'. And that's not at all a bad thing.
I am more responsible than most people I know, religious or non-religious. There is no correlation between them (religion and responsibility). As for the superstition comment, have you ever wondered that we (humans) may be evolving a sixth sense (faith)? Time will only tell.Cast off this superstition, take some responsibility for your actions. Take some responsibility for your fucking life!
Again, you are overgeneralizing. Not all religious people do this. You may have experienced this personally yourself, which is anecdotal at best.Think of this; a child is born into a religious family, it is taught from birth that God exists (by whatever name) and that eternal peace waits if it just toes the line/tithes its salary/ goes to church. Now take that same child at birth and put him into a family that is not religious. Is he going to live the same life? Isn't the concept of a God and the idea of religion simply something inculcated into our children, and never giving them any other option that to believe? I know of no concept more pervasive, more absolute in its requirements of your faith than that of religion. Take away that training, take away that influence and you have an individual who through rational thought can make decisions. Too many people arguing for the existence of God are coming from a standpoint that can honestly and without malice be described as brainwashing. You may think you have excercised your free will, but your very decisions have in a way been pre-determined by your upbringing and you cannot surely deny that?
Neither have I. Proof of God ain't gonna drop on your lap anytime soon. That's why it's called faith. As for faith trying to disprove scientific facts to prove that there is God.....same thing. It's unnecessary and disingenuous.So give me your watchmaker arguments, enlighten me with your philosophies. Tell me how you believe the absence of a God means there is no right or wrong, preach to me your absolutes. I have never yet seen an argument over God end in a satisfactory resolution.
I argue on behalf of both.......and most religious people fall into this category. Brainwashing can occur not only in religious settings, but also in non-religious settings, such as political affiliation, nationalism, tribalism, etc.You are arguing from a standpoint of faith, I from reason.
Hey, that's what Geoffry Dahmer, Charles Manson and a few other contemporaries did too......oh, wait a minute, they did end up being chained by another parental figure for their "living of life".....the government.Shed your chains, live your life without fear of this threatening parental figure. Take a deep breath and caste aside the wager that maybe there is a God and therefore you should play it safe. Innovate, fuck (guys girls who cares), live!
The F-15 is really irritating. I got killed 5 times in a row when i got in a tank.Ayumiz wrote:
The m95 is really irritating. I got killed 5 times in a row when i got in a jet.
Actually, we need to know more about your stats, we do not have enough info.....just post them instead of this other idiot's stats.CaiWengi wrote:
http://bf2s.com/player/28841225/
On the SF badges, the Navy Seal one requires 4,500 hours. For this player it is gonna take him 7283178 days, which we have worked out is gonna be approx 20000 years. Unless he has found the elixir of life, i find this task to be unachievable. This is just one of the 4500 hour badges (infact there is 6). That is 27000 hours (approx 3 years none stop). Is this just a glitch? Obviously for players who play certain areas more, it wouldnt take 20000 years just to get one badge - but still 3 years permanant!!!!!!! Most people will be 70 by the time they do that. If you play on average 2 hours a day (everyday), but only on these certain things (providing that some people have favourites and will not like others) is 13500 days is going to take 36 years!!!!!!!!! This cannot be right!!!!
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Uh, no. I don't believe in that. Following the 10 C's is the central tenet.Vic42 wrote:
Other major religions don't portray God as being a cruel SoB, with an eternity of torture in store for all non-believers. But Christianity holds as a central tenet that everybody else gets unending grief after death, no matter if they lived a good life.
Ah, you are getting to the root of the question. When I asked about "evolving with the ability (capacity) for faith", I was talking about faith in something that has not been detected by your 5 senses (intangible). Belief comes IF your faith was confirmed by one or more of your 5 senses. Some people believe(d) because they did sense God, others remain faithful in God, even though they haven't sensed God (yet), and there still are others who have no faith or belief in God, whether because they have not sensed Him, even if they had faith in Him in the past. From what we have seen from animal behavior though, their reactions and instincts has been based on their 5 senses (specifically, mammals) and nothing beyond that.Marconius wrote:
This concept can't be measured, as we've established no communicative link between us and lower animals. What type of faith, though? Faith in a deity or faith as in absolute trust? Certain forms of instinct can revolve around trust in the non-human world, or can at least be perceived as such. The need for absolute trust in order to survive probably increased as our brains developed and adapted to our surroundings. Faith in deities came from the need for reassurance and comfort when humans confronted death, or at least started to ask the fundamental "Why am I here?" question.Yeticus Rex wrote:
"Are humans the first animals to evolve with the ability for faith?"
Anyone care to answer? And please, instinct and faith are two separate abilities.
Another page of unresponsiveness goes by. Come on guys, no matter what side of the issue you are on, give this some thought.
Agreed. Now I will rely on science to prove in the future that they (specifically, mammals other than human) do not have the capacity for faith once they find ways to communicate. As for fish, amphibians, reptiles and birds......that will be a moot point.It's too hard to really determine this, as humans want to personify everything to bring it up to their level. Until we can really communicate with animals without the hindrance of anthropological personification, it's a moot point.
That's not faith, that's behavioral conditioning.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
My thought is, I have no idea. I am not able to peek into the minds of animals, nor or they able to convey their thoughts in regards to faith. They may have faith that I will feed them tonight, which is why they stay at my home, but I don't know.Yeticus Rex wrote:
Another page of unresponsiveness goes by. Come on guys, no matter what side of the issue you are on, give this some thought.Yeticus Rex wrote:
This question bears repeating.
Who's he? This question was directed at everybody.SilentNoise105 wrote:
You really think he's gonna answer you?Yeticus Rex wrote:
Another page of unresponsiveness goes by. Come on guys, no matter what side of the issue you are on, give this some thought.Yeticus Rex wrote:
This question bears repeating.
Feelings, yes......beliefs, no. Elephants and monkeys have been shown that they grieve for their dead, but they do not express faith towards anything intangible (ex. - God).We cannot understand animals and we cannot tell if they have feeling or beliefs, and because of that we assume they don't. Doesn't that make sense to you?
My question never implied that we have the "right to simply cast them off". It did imply that they do not have the capacity for faith.I mean just because we aren't able to talk or communicate with them, doesn't that give us the right to simply cast them off as useless, empty-headed beings witout any hope or reasoning?
Instinct, not faith. No ant worships the queen, but they are genetically wired (instinct) to protect her for the survival of the colony.Its apparent that animals don't communicate with eachother, I mean ants don't get together to make a colony and worship the queen ant,
Again, instinct.....and the ability to realize (tangibly) that teamwork helps in providing something tangible (food).and wolves have never hunted in packs in order to have a more effective chance of getting food and surviving!
Sarcasm!None of these things have ever happened!
This is even debatable amongst religious scholars, let alone any non-religious scholars. I certainly don't agree to that notion even though I'm catholic.Rational thought did not exist until humans were miraculously placed on Earth by an invisable, all-mighty being and told them to believe his way or he'll destroy you (despite the fact that I gave you the option of freewill). To finish it off, god made an entire universe (billions of light-years big) and focused all of his power on one tiny planet.
Hey, read this Time article.....hot off the press. http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazin … 13,00.htmlCome on now people, if this doesn't make sense, I just don't know what does!