Guess what, we used those in Iraq. The Apaches fired flechette rockets when we invaded. I should know because I loaded the rockets myself.Katash wrote:
You think thats bad - take a look at these :-
http://www.btselem.org/english/Firearms/Flechette.asp
shame there illegal tho.
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Guys it's simple. If you get screwed in a server by the admin or anyone else for that matter, LEAVE. Posting about it doesn't help. We don't need to know how adminDumbass_1450 did you wrong. It's happened to everyone. Better idea would be to post about servers that DON'T have morons like that. Too many servers out there to just worry about getting screwed over in one.
P.S. Who started this whole karma thing? Probably the most retarded trend I've ever seen in a forum.
P.S. Who started this whole karma thing? Probably the most retarded trend I've ever seen in a forum.
Hey Polux, I'll make sure to stay away from your lame server. I'm sorry, the TV station flag in Sharqi has TWO spawn points. Nobody is FORCING you to spawn on the roof and get raped by the MEC chopper. Use your freakin brain and spawn down below and find a way to take the chopper out. Simple as that. The stupid spawn/base raping rule on servers is made by people who are just lazy and don't want to work for thier points, or thier team. Grow some balls and learn to stop the rapers.
I love it when jetwhores basecamp while thier team doesn't have a flag. It secures the victory for my team. I almost always manage to get up in the air and pay them back anyway.
I love it when jetwhores basecamp while thier team doesn't have a flag. It secures the victory for my team. I almost always manage to get up in the air and pay them back anyway.
EA needs to wake up and realize how ridiculously GIMPED the F-35 is compared to any other jet. You can nail that POS with a missle at a 90 degree angle. They seriously need to fix this. The F-35 is supposed to be the world's most advanced jet fighter. In BF2 it flys like crap and it's a magnet for missles.
WTF is the point of this thread? STFU and leave Firestorm alone! Geez. If the man wants to command and play Karkand the rest of his life LET HIM!
...You can't do that. If you read the initial post he said only TWO vehicles are allowed to be active at any time and they self destruct very quickly. You gotta time it really good to get a jet, otherwise they'll just blow up the car and THEN take off.RGB|Apocalypse wrote:
I am waiting to see the exploit that enemy commander drops these constantly on runways to prevent jets from taking off...
I have yet to nail any jets or other vehicles, but I've killed several commanders and random snipers with the vehicle drop. I think its hilarious. As far as abusing, I don't think so, just look up and keep your wits about you.
Look, guys, we've changed our Gamespy IDs to match our BF2 account and it STILL DOESN'T WORK. Understand? I've already emailed EA and I'm very pissed off because I spent 10 bucks to download a game I can't play.
Kilroy, the MEC chopper you were talking about is the Mi-28 Havoc, not the Mig. The Mig is a jet.
Jamer, the F-35B is the Navy version of the Airforce F-22 Raptor. It's the same plane basically. The Navy adopted the vertical takeoff.
As for the Eurofighter, I still haven't tested yet. I'll post my thoughts when I can actually play a EF map.
Jamer, the F-35B is the Navy version of the Airforce F-22 Raptor. It's the same plane basically. The Navy adopted the vertical takeoff.
As for the Eurofighter, I still haven't tested yet. I'll post my thoughts when I can actually play a EF map.
What do you mean when the game is actually released? IT WAS RELEASED. It asked us to download then it gave the option to PLAY IT. Some of us CAN'T play. I sure hope it works tomorrow because I'm pissed off enough as it is.
I followed those instructions Verbatim and it still won't let me play. Someone is going to DIE.
Same problem here. I changed everything to match and it still won't let me play Euroforce. Way to go EA! You best believe I'm gonna get what I payed for you bunch of aholes. FIX THIS CRAP NOW!!
Unless you have short term memory loss, it's easy to remember over time what each voice bite means in relation to thier command or spotted term. Just play as that army and read the text whenever you hear a voice. When you don't see text but hear a voice, it's relating to the commander assets. It's just common sense.
I had to cut and paste this from another thread since so many people seem to not understand:
Ok let's look at your so call "REAL" problem with AA. How much "skill" do you think it takes to hop on a stinger/mobile AA, point at an aircraft, wait for lock on, and shoot? Do you REALLY think it requires skill to do such a simple act? How complicated SHOULD it be? What the hell do you expect? It's POINT, LOCK ON, SHOOT. ANYONE CAN DO THAT. That's not the point of the matter you idiots! Any moron can hop in a tank and shoot at something. Just like any moron can pick AT and shoot his rocket at that moron in the tank. It never had anything to do with skill. Now being a smart pilot and going after AA and actually eliminating it, as well as watch his six and avoids getting shot down? Now THAT takes skill. Just as it takes skill to survive longer than a minute in a tank, using the grenade launcher, and killing people with C4. So for those of you saying the patch favors the talentless, you need to reevaluate your perspective.
I'm SICK and TIRED of hearing all the BS about AA being too accurate. I've launched 3 missles at a jet that already deployed his flares and they ALL MISSED. I've lost count of how many times I shot my missles at someone flying STRAIGHT and they MISS. Just two nights ago I wasted ALL my missles in Kubra Dam trying to shoot down someone with my Mig and he was in an F-18. AA is not flawless, people. Stop making excuses and get used to it, or stop playing. We're heard all the whining a million times already. WE AREN'T DICE/EA. We can't fix your "problem"!
Everything about that patch has been covered ten times over. We heard you. Enough is enough. Please move on! I swear there must be like 100 posts about this crap on these forums. Nothing you guys can say hasn't been covered already. So please give it a rest for goodness sake. When you think of something that HASN'T been covered, by all means post. I'm not saying you can't voice your opinion, but at least think of something original. Like the fact that you can still die from being caught between two vehicles or a vehicle and a wall, or under the wings of a jet. Something like that. When you stand out from the hundreds of AA threads, people will actually give a crap.
Instead of wasting your time complaining on these forums, go to the EA forums where someone will actually listen! Or better yet, POST IT ON THE COMPLAINT FORUMS WHERE THEY BELONG! The bugs will be addressed in the 1.21 hotfix anyway. So could we PLEASE start talking about something other than the stupid patch already?
Ok let's look at your so call "REAL" problem with AA. How much "skill" do you think it takes to hop on a stinger/mobile AA, point at an aircraft, wait for lock on, and shoot? Do you REALLY think it requires skill to do such a simple act? How complicated SHOULD it be? What the hell do you expect? It's POINT, LOCK ON, SHOOT. ANYONE CAN DO THAT. That's not the point of the matter you idiots! Any moron can hop in a tank and shoot at something. Just like any moron can pick AT and shoot his rocket at that moron in the tank. It never had anything to do with skill. Now being a smart pilot and going after AA and actually eliminating it, as well as watch his six and avoids getting shot down? Now THAT takes skill. Just as it takes skill to survive longer than a minute in a tank, using the grenade launcher, and killing people with C4. So for those of you saying the patch favors the talentless, you need to reevaluate your perspective.
I'm SICK and TIRED of hearing all the BS about AA being too accurate. I've launched 3 missles at a jet that already deployed his flares and they ALL MISSED. I've lost count of how many times I shot my missles at someone flying STRAIGHT and they MISS. Just two nights ago I wasted ALL my missles in Kubra Dam trying to shoot down someone with my Mig and he was in an F-18. AA is not flawless, people. Stop making excuses and get used to it, or stop playing. We're heard all the whining a million times already. WE AREN'T DICE/EA. We can't fix your "problem"!
Everything about that patch has been covered ten times over. We heard you. Enough is enough. Please move on! I swear there must be like 100 posts about this crap on these forums. Nothing you guys can say hasn't been covered already. So please give it a rest for goodness sake. When you think of something that HASN'T been covered, by all means post. I'm not saying you can't voice your opinion, but at least think of something original. Like the fact that you can still die from being caught between two vehicles or a vehicle and a wall, or under the wings of a jet. Something like that. When you stand out from the hundreds of AA threads, people will actually give a crap.
Instead of wasting your time complaining on these forums, go to the EA forums where someone will actually listen! Or better yet, POST IT ON THE COMPLAINT FORUMS WHERE THEY BELONG! The bugs will be addressed in the 1.21 hotfix anyway. So could we PLEASE start talking about something other than the stupid patch already?
19K Armor Crewman (M1A1C Abrams. Drove, loaded, and gunned, mostly drove) from 1997-2001. Served in the 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, GA in A Co. 1-64 Armor.
16Y AH-64D Apache armament/electrical/avionics technician from 2001-2004. Served at Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah, GA D Co. 1-3 Aviation, 3rd ID.
I deployed to Bosnia/Herzegovina from Sep 00 to March 01 and saw the hottest women in the world and learned that the Serbs are total ASSHOLES. I was in Iraq from Jan 03 to July 03 and we raped them on our way to Baghdad. We took over the airport and I learned that Kuwait is worse than hell with winter temperatures as low as 30 degrees (not much, but when you consider it gets to 80 in the day the temp difference will kill you), to as high as 140 degrees (98 degrees felt COOL at night).
Finally, I went to Fort. Irwin, CA for NTC (National Training Center) a total of FOUR times. I hated it every single time. I got out as a E4 Specialist. To those still serving, I salute you!
16Y AH-64D Apache armament/electrical/avionics technician from 2001-2004. Served at Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah, GA D Co. 1-3 Aviation, 3rd ID.
I deployed to Bosnia/Herzegovina from Sep 00 to March 01 and saw the hottest women in the world and learned that the Serbs are total ASSHOLES. I was in Iraq from Jan 03 to July 03 and we raped them on our way to Baghdad. We took over the airport and I learned that Kuwait is worse than hell with winter temperatures as low as 30 degrees (not much, but when you consider it gets to 80 in the day the temp difference will kill you), to as high as 140 degrees (98 degrees felt COOL at night).
Finally, I went to Fort. Irwin, CA for NTC (National Training Center) a total of FOUR times. I hated it every single time. I got out as a E4 Specialist. To those still serving, I salute you!
Comradewho, we could sit here and argue this crap that no one cares about all day, but honestly, I'm just sick and tired of the 1.2 threads and the whining. If you were good to begin with, you will still be good. If not, you were never good. Complaining here doesn't help your situation, do it on the EA boards or email DICE. We've all heard every little complaint over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over......again. I've tried and tried to make my points come across to people that just refuse to understand why the changes were made in the first place, but I see now that I just wasted my time.
I'm not gonna argue about the patch anymore. If you're still gonna bitch and whine, go right ahead. I'm not gonna bother defending myself anymore so you can point out whatever I'm wrong about and gloat all you want. In the end, nothing will change because 1.2 is here to stay. You will still have to deal with the changes in game, or stop playing and hope that things can change back to thier lame ass ways so you can play again. Whatever. I don't care.
I think EA/DICE has made a spectacular game and I know that the patch has brought new bugs. But I also know that they are AWARE of it and will fix as much as time/money allows. That's alll we can hope for. No one said 1.2 was perfect. No one said you have to like it. We're just tired of the whining. Just get online and PLAY MAN! Will it kill you to play the damn game instead of sitting here whining about it? Seriously. This is my last post about the patch and I will leave it like that. You guys can complain about the new bugs and whatever. I'll just ignore it and move on like most people have. But if you sit there and say BF2 is not fun anymore, try convincing all the hundreds of thousands of other people playing that thier game is "not fun". I'm done.
I'm not gonna argue about the patch anymore. If you're still gonna bitch and whine, go right ahead. I'm not gonna bother defending myself anymore so you can point out whatever I'm wrong about and gloat all you want. In the end, nothing will change because 1.2 is here to stay. You will still have to deal with the changes in game, or stop playing and hope that things can change back to thier lame ass ways so you can play again. Whatever. I don't care.
I think EA/DICE has made a spectacular game and I know that the patch has brought new bugs. But I also know that they are AWARE of it and will fix as much as time/money allows. That's alll we can hope for. No one said 1.2 was perfect. No one said you have to like it. We're just tired of the whining. Just get online and PLAY MAN! Will it kill you to play the damn game instead of sitting here whining about it? Seriously. This is my last post about the patch and I will leave it like that. You guys can complain about the new bugs and whatever. I'll just ignore it and move on like most people have. But if you sit there and say BF2 is not fun anymore, try convincing all the hundreds of thousands of other people playing that thier game is "not fun". I'm done.
It's actually a good idea, if it wasn't for the fact that a commander can do the same thing much more effectively and safely with his artillery strikes. :\
Esker you just proved my point. Did the US ever have to worry about working as a team to eliminate the UBER MEC shoebox chopper? With the blackhawk you didn't even have to spray someone directly with the miniguns to get a kill. It always gave an obvious advantage to the US. But hey, whatever, we can discuss it forever. I'm tired of it. You can say they should'ave left it alone all you want, but they changed it and it's DONE. And I'm done posting about the stupid patch. It's pointless. Out.
I second that. Guys, we can debate the issue till the cows come home, but let's face it. 1.2 is here to stay and all the whining won't change anything (at least not on THESE forums). So whether or not we are right or wrong, it's been discussed enough and I think we just need to move on. Please.
The RAH-66 Comanche was supposed to be the replacement for the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior. Eventually the Comanche would have also replaced the workhorse attack helo, the AH-64D Longbow Apache. Just like the Crusader Project (the new artillery piece slated to replace the Paladin), the Army saw that it would cost too much money, so both projects have been scrapped indefinately.
The Army has choosen instead to upgrade the Apache Longbow with ongoing R&D from Lockheed Martin and I'm sure they are upgrading (if it needs it) the Paladin to extend the life of both vehicles for years to come. The M1A2 is ongoing for the SEP upgrade as well. It takes several years to complete this process. When I was in Fort Stewart we were still using the old M1A1C, after all. Eventually though, I think the heavy Main Battle Tank will be phased out completely in favor of the faster and more deployable vehicles like the LAV-25.
How do I know all this? I was a tanker from 1997 to 2001 and an Apache electrician from 2001 to 2004. DEE DEE DEE!
P.S. I hate it when they post the top speed spec of the M1 at 60mph. Yeah sure, if you drive down a 45 degree slope on a paved road MAYBE. The REAL top speed of the Abrams on a FLAT ROAD was 40mph, with an engine and track in top condition. Otherwise you'll average 35mph on a tank with regular wear and tear from years of use and abuse.
P.S.S AH=Attack Helicopter,
RAH=Recon Attack Helo
OH=Observation Helo
UH=Utility Helo (i.e. Blackhawk)
SEP=System Enhancement Program (HAH found it! )
The Army has choosen instead to upgrade the Apache Longbow with ongoing R&D from Lockheed Martin and I'm sure they are upgrading (if it needs it) the Paladin to extend the life of both vehicles for years to come. The M1A2 is ongoing for the SEP upgrade as well. It takes several years to complete this process. When I was in Fort Stewart we were still using the old M1A1C, after all. Eventually though, I think the heavy Main Battle Tank will be phased out completely in favor of the faster and more deployable vehicles like the LAV-25.
How do I know all this? I was a tanker from 1997 to 2001 and an Apache electrician from 2001 to 2004. DEE DEE DEE!
P.S. I hate it when they post the top speed spec of the M1 at 60mph. Yeah sure, if you drive down a 45 degree slope on a paved road MAYBE. The REAL top speed of the Abrams on a FLAT ROAD was 40mph, with an engine and track in top condition. Otherwise you'll average 35mph on a tank with regular wear and tear from years of use and abuse.
P.S.S AH=Attack Helicopter,
RAH=Recon Attack Helo
OH=Observation Helo
UH=Utility Helo (i.e. Blackhawk)
SEP=System Enhancement Program (HAH found it! )
So people are complaining that Mastuur City is actually FUN to play again? That the Blackhawk isn't absolutely DOMINATING the map anymore? You never heard the MEC people complain about thier POS chopper. But then again it serves it's purpose as a TRANSPORT chopper. So please, go cry to someone who gives a shit.
Ok let's look at your so call "REAL" problem with AA. How much "skill" do you think it takes to hop on a stinger/mobile AA, point at an aircraft, wait for lock on, and shoot? Do you REALLY think it requires skill to do such a simple act? How complicated SHOULD it be? What the hell do you expect man? It's POINT, LOCK ON, SHOOT. ANYONE CAN DO THAT. That's not the point of the matter you idiots! Any moron can hop in a tank and shoot at something. It never had anything to do with skill. Now being a smart pilot and going after AA and actually eliminating it, now THAT takes skill.
I'm SICK and TIRED of hearing all the BS about AA being too accurate. I've launched 3 missles at a jet that already deployed his flares and they ALL MISSED. I've lost count of how many times I shoot my missles at someone flying STRAIGHT and they MISS. AA is not flawless, people. So stop making excuses and get used to it, or stop playing. We're heard all the whining a million times already. WE AREN'T DICE/EA. We can't fix your "problem"! So STFU already and play. Everything about that patch has been covered ten times over. We heard you. Enough is enough. Please move on! I swear there must be like 100 posts about this crap on these forums. Nothing you guys can say hasn't been covered already. So please give it a rest for goodness sake.
Instead of wasting your time complaining on these forums, go to the EA forums where someone will actually listen! But then again I'm sure they've already read complaints like yours a hundred times so it doesn't matter. Could we PLEASE start talking about something other than the stupid patch already?
I'm SICK and TIRED of hearing all the BS about AA being too accurate. I've launched 3 missles at a jet that already deployed his flares and they ALL MISSED. I've lost count of how many times I shoot my missles at someone flying STRAIGHT and they MISS. AA is not flawless, people. So stop making excuses and get used to it, or stop playing. We're heard all the whining a million times already. WE AREN'T DICE/EA. We can't fix your "problem"! So STFU already and play. Everything about that patch has been covered ten times over. We heard you. Enough is enough. Please move on! I swear there must be like 100 posts about this crap on these forums. Nothing you guys can say hasn't been covered already. So please give it a rest for goodness sake.
Instead of wasting your time complaining on these forums, go to the EA forums where someone will actually listen! But then again I'm sure they've already read complaints like yours a hundred times so it doesn't matter. Could we PLEASE start talking about something other than the stupid patch already?
The way I see it, that's 700,000 less morons, noobs, and whiners I have to put up with.
Comradewho you are a MORON. First off, if everyone plays support and sniper, WHO will take out the tanks? That's right, ANTITANK, the kit specially designed for it! Snipers are worthless in close quarters. And guess what? Spec ops is STILL just as useful as they were before that stupid C4 chucking trick popped up. Please, stfu and stop playing if it doesn't cater to you. I still see plenty of spec ops and I've been owned by noob tubes post patch so your little argument is worthless. About the only kit I see less of is medics but then again I'm sure someone else will tell you otherwise. So go play Unreal Tournament where you can jump 100 feet in the air and own people with your rocket launcher. Thats your type of game.
It's like this man. Everything has a weakness. Don't like getting owned by support? Play assault and use the G3. Or better yet, hop in a tank. You say people only play sniper and support so you won't have any trouble owning. Go play karkand and try that. See how long you last with all the snipers and support you claim are only used. Oh and play something besides Spec Ops once in a while. You'd be surprised how different your experience will be.
And STFU about the hopping. It's the bane of all FPS and it's the most ridiculous crap I've even seen. Did you realize you can actually avoid getting shot easier if you just SPRINT? Try it sometime morons. You can still hop repeatedly anyway. You just can't shoot anymore so change your tactics and grow up.
It's like this man. Everything has a weakness. Don't like getting owned by support? Play assault and use the G3. Or better yet, hop in a tank. You say people only play sniper and support so you won't have any trouble owning. Go play karkand and try that. See how long you last with all the snipers and support you claim are only used. Oh and play something besides Spec Ops once in a while. You'd be surprised how different your experience will be.
And STFU about the hopping. It's the bane of all FPS and it's the most ridiculous crap I've even seen. Did you realize you can actually avoid getting shot easier if you just SPRINT? Try it sometime morons. You can still hop repeatedly anyway. You just can't shoot anymore so change your tactics and grow up.
Off the subject somewhat, but WHY do people call missles rockets and rockets missles? For God's sake people, a rocket is a dumb projectile. It flys straight i.e. the rockets the pilot uses on the attack helos. Missles on the other hand, can be guided, either by heatseeking, TV, or laser. Missles tend to cause alot more damage than rockets because they are larger and pack more explosives. The also tend to go much further and with guidance are alot more accurate and effective.
So let's review. Jets use MISSLES, whether its the bomber and his copilot, or the fighter. Attack chopper PILOTS use ROCKETS that fly STRAIGHT. The helo gunner uses TV guided MISSLES. Not even EA can get it right, as you saw with the patch notes.
And don't even start with the technical defination that you can say a rocket IS a missle. FFS we use those terms to differentiate them. It's common sense. That way there is no confusion as to what type of projectile is being fired. So please I know it's nitpicky, just like calling the Cobra an Apache or saying KarkLand, but let's try to communicate in an intelligent manner.
P.S. I swear whoever started the bullshit term in the media for when a building is demolished an IMPLOSION (it is NOT an IMPLOSION), I hope you die and burn in hell. PROPER ENGLISH FTW!
So let's review. Jets use MISSLES, whether its the bomber and his copilot, or the fighter. Attack chopper PILOTS use ROCKETS that fly STRAIGHT. The helo gunner uses TV guided MISSLES. Not even EA can get it right, as you saw with the patch notes.
And don't even start with the technical defination that you can say a rocket IS a missle. FFS we use those terms to differentiate them. It's common sense. That way there is no confusion as to what type of projectile is being fired. So please I know it's nitpicky, just like calling the Cobra an Apache or saying KarkLand, but let's try to communicate in an intelligent manner.
P.S. I swear whoever started the bullshit term in the media for when a building is demolished an IMPLOSION (it is NOT an IMPLOSION), I hope you die and burn in hell. PROPER ENGLISH FTW!
See this is the kind of situation that PISSES ME OFF in regards to the babies that cry spawn camping. Whether or not they're gonna take the outpost it only makes sense for them to kill you. What you expect them to do, sit there and let you get a chance to kill them back? Jesus Christ use your head. And in this particular case the US can ALWAYS spawn at thier main or at another flag. So there is NO EXCUSE for you to die repeatedly. You are the idiot the chooses to continue spawning there so UP YOURS.
So what's your point? You weren't a C4 chucker so why do you care? Ok so theoretically you can both throw and make it stick to stuff. Ok, fine, whatever since you people are so stubborn I'll give you that too. But now that puts us to the meat of the argument and thats the instant detonation with no damage to the thrower. Yes it takes skill. I DON'T CARE. Lots of things "take skill", but they aren't nearly as overpowering as C4 throwing. Not even a nube toob can cause so much damage to a group of people AND/OR vehicles that fast. So pre patch the Spec Ops was the ultimate kit. THAT'S why everyone played it. And you obviously don't play on too many servers, because lemme tell you it was OUT OF CONTROL in some of them. You got people getting 40-50 kills in a short amount of time. No other kit let you do that kind of damage pre patch. So it's FIXED NOW. END THIS STUPID POINTLESS DEBATE. Spec Ops is just as good as they were before the stupid C4 chucking started anyways so SHUT IT.jonnykill wrote:
Sigh , where do I begin ? First off the detonator IS the blasting cap - get it ?usmarine2005 wrote:
How the hell does the detonator work without the blasting cap?jonnykill wrote:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm
"Even shooting the explosive with a rifle won't trigger the reaction. Only a detonator, or blasting cap will do the job properly. "
Now would you all please just simply STFU and be happy that your bitching and griping fucked up such a great game ? Thank you , that is all .
There's different WAYS to set off the detonator in RL . One is by remote control . This isn't really used much
because if the soldier who placed it dies then there is risk the C4 won't go off at all .
To avoid this a timing device is used . Plant the C4 , set the timer , run away and find cover . Boom .
Another method is by a clacker much like the claymore uses . This is pretty much for opening doors .
The C4 is rolled out like a string and placed on the door near the hinges . You manually clack the detonator , remove the door aand assault .
Next is a suicide belt . Fill your jecket with C4 and blow yourself up including the people around you .
Now there was some member hear who claims that C4 needs to be glued or held onto an object with tape . WRONG . C4 is PLIABLE ! Meaning its like silly puddy . Now to a certain extent tossing C4 at a tank might not really work in RL . As well as sticking to a wall . But for sure you could walk up to a wall and simply press it onto the wall . Granted the wall might be covered in dust making it harder to stick to thus applying some pressure will sponge up some of that dust and push it aside and letting some of the inner C4 that is fresh start doing it's job of sticking . C4 from what I believe is slightly tacky . Perhaps not "sticky" but it will stick to things . With that said lets move on back to tossing it . There is no dout in my mind this tactic could be used in RL . To some extent it already has . What is the difference of tossing a molotov cocktail inside the open hatch of a tank or APC and blowint up all the people inside it ? This was done in mass in WW2 in France against zee Germans .
Now as far as tossing C4 at troops and being able to detonate it within twenty feet killing the guy and not yourself - can't be done . But this is a game . Like I said earlier I've only really encountered someone killing me in this fashion about ten times . I really don't see what the big deal is . And as far as people saying shit like " you should be stealthy , not killing troops and tanks " WTF are you even talking about ? That's like saying " I keep getting shot by the Anti tank unit guy with his anti tank unit weapon - that's bullshit , he should only use it on tanks ! " . It also never ends . Check this out . I have NEVER used C4 in this manner . I don't toss it at troops and I toss it at tanks . I PLACE it on tanks if the opportuninty is there . My main purpose is to destroy the enemy assests . That's ALL I do . I like taking everything out , killing pilots when they are waiting for aircraft . I steel vehicles and use them against the enemy . I play passive as well . I call for a suplly drop far away from the artillery and stuff to avoid the enemy UAV . I reup and observe the ENG fixing all the stuff and move in for more points blowing it all up again . In no way do I have to change my tactics with this latest patch but it sure seems to suck judging the way everydoby is bitching about it . In short bunny hoppers - use grenades . Dolphine divers - use grenades . C4 tossers - toss grenades . Done .
BFV sucked ass. Let's go ahead and say it. As for DC, it was and still is a great game, but it kills me to see how the graphics pale in comparison to BF2. It's like playing an NES game then playing a PS2 game. Ouch.
Gulf War Syndrome, I apprecite the fact that you don't have your head up your ass. It's just so funny to see these guys defending that lame ass tactic. I mean ok, fine, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you can toss C4 (which isn't recommended I'm sure but whatever). But prove to me how you can make it stick to any objet or wall. Guess what guys, in real life you have to ATTACH C4 to objects with tape. Plus we can all agree the instant detonation was a bug/exploit as well. Hell, I would allow C4 tossing, honestly, but I would remove it's ability to attach to objets and the instant detonation. Then what? You'd still bitch. Surprise surprise!
You can sit there and say the PKM is now overpowered, but guess what? You cant kill tanks with it, nor can you toss it over a wall and kill a whole squad of infantry instantly. So now what? What other pointless arguments can you make? Just leave it be guys. Accept that C4 chucking is gone. Everyone else has. Remember, this trick was "discovered", meaning the developers never intended it to be in the game.
You can sit there and say the PKM is now overpowered, but guess what? You cant kill tanks with it, nor can you toss it over a wall and kill a whole squad of infantry instantly. So now what? What other pointless arguments can you make? Just leave it be guys. Accept that C4 chucking is gone. Everyone else has. Remember, this trick was "discovered", meaning the developers never intended it to be in the game.
You know what? I can agree that you should be able to toss C4. Yeah. I do. But if you can then you should remove it's ability to stick to objects. Cuz guess what geniuses? In real life you have to attach C4 to something with tape or glue. There is no magic adheseve that makes it stick to anything when you throw it. That's where you lose your stupid little argument about realism. Not super glue, not a magnet (magnets dont attach to walls). You've "proven" that you can throw C4 (which isn't recommended anway but whatever I'll give you that) now prove that it can attach to any object when you throw it. Then your argument defending a cheap ass tactic that was overpowered MIGHT have some merit. At the very least you can admit that the instant detonation was lame.
I've already explained in another thread. Before people "discovered" C4 chucking (which basically means the develepers never intended it to be in the game), spec ops still blew up tanks and infantry with C4. You'd lay a trap for infantry, or snuck up on a tank the old fashioned way. None of this rambo throwing super grenades and owning everyone bullshit. Soon, however, word got out about your little trick and before you know it everyone and thier grandmother was tossing C4 around. Assault, Support, and antitank are designed for infantry and armor combat. NOT SPEC OPS. Spec Ops was meant to be stealthly (hense you cant be seen with a satellite sweep), infiltrating enemy lines to destroy equipment (bridges, vehicles, commander assets).
If EA/DICE wanted Spec ops to focus on infantry/armor combat, they wouldave given them BODY ARMOR and called it the SUPER RAMBO DEMO TOSSER kit and everyone would be happy. So please, stop trying to defend that lame tactic. The PKM may be super accurate now, but you cant kill tanks with it or instantly kill a squad of soldiers on the other side of the fence. So do yourselves a favor and pretend C4 chucking never existed and move on. Tired of all your fruitless, pointles arguments about something that is gone and will never come back. Give it a rest.
I've already explained in another thread. Before people "discovered" C4 chucking (which basically means the develepers never intended it to be in the game), spec ops still blew up tanks and infantry with C4. You'd lay a trap for infantry, or snuck up on a tank the old fashioned way. None of this rambo throwing super grenades and owning everyone bullshit. Soon, however, word got out about your little trick and before you know it everyone and thier grandmother was tossing C4 around. Assault, Support, and antitank are designed for infantry and armor combat. NOT SPEC OPS. Spec Ops was meant to be stealthly (hense you cant be seen with a satellite sweep), infiltrating enemy lines to destroy equipment (bridges, vehicles, commander assets).
If EA/DICE wanted Spec ops to focus on infantry/armor combat, they wouldave given them BODY ARMOR and called it the SUPER RAMBO DEMO TOSSER kit and everyone would be happy. So please, stop trying to defend that lame tactic. The PKM may be super accurate now, but you cant kill tanks with it or instantly kill a squad of soldiers on the other side of the fence. So do yourselves a favor and pretend C4 chucking never existed and move on. Tired of all your fruitless, pointles arguments about something that is gone and will never come back. Give it a rest.
Ungh and another thing. I'm tired of everyone saying the new missles hit you 99.9% of the time. BULLSHIT. Just last night I launched THREE missles at a jet and he didnt use flares. Guess what? THEY MISSED! THATS RIGHT. THEY MISSED. Matter of fact, I've lost count how many times the new UBER missles as you call them have missed. Even against a jet flying in a STRAIGHT LINE. So spare me the whining.
Hey guess what? I played support on that {9thinf} account LONG before the patch, so shut up. I also fly a jet very well and I STILL do after the patch. Second, yes, I will agree its not TOTALLY balanced. The PKM is a bit too accurate now. I admit it. The game still needs fine tuning. It's part of the process. But to say that Spec Ops should support AT? Whatever. Bitch to EA/DICE and make them "fix" AT, since it's so broke as you see it. Anti-armor is thier job, let them do it.
I'll say it again, pre patch Spec Ops was MORE effective vs infantry AND armor than the kits designed for it. You can't sit there and justify that. The fix was necessary. OH and another thing! Long before people started C4 chucking, they still used Spec Ops against tanks and infantry. For infantry you would set traps, for armor you simply snuck up on them. It wasn't until that gay trick started showing up that people left and right started whoring the kit. So what now? You know as well as I do C4 chucking should never have been possible. Just pretend that lame ass tactic never existed and move on.
I'll say it again, pre patch Spec Ops was MORE effective vs infantry AND armor than the kits designed for it. You can't sit there and justify that. The fix was necessary. OH and another thing! Long before people started C4 chucking, they still used Spec Ops against tanks and infantry. For infantry you would set traps, for armor you simply snuck up on them. It wasn't until that gay trick started showing up that people left and right started whoring the kit. So what now? You know as well as I do C4 chucking should never have been possible. Just pretend that lame ass tactic never existed and move on.
"lol do you really think that not experienced = n00b?"
Is there really that much of a difference? Either way they don't know what they're doing. I just used the term noob since its easier than typing "inexperienced player". So no matter what, they have to learn that kills and a high score aren't handed to you on a silver platter. You have to work for it and learn the ways. Simple as that.
And for the noob AA people geting kills easy, well they're simpling killing other noobs that are dumb enough to fly. Or people that ignore the AA down below. It happens. Which is why it makes sense because pre patch you could have every type of AA on you AND a jet and you could STILL evade the missles. Ridiculous!
P.S. You even say it on your sig. "Players that have skill, ..." Then you turn around and say its unfair for the inexperienced pilots. Seriously man, make up your mind. It still requires skill, just more so now.
Is there really that much of a difference? Either way they don't know what they're doing. I just used the term noob since its easier than typing "inexperienced player". So no matter what, they have to learn that kills and a high score aren't handed to you on a silver platter. You have to work for it and learn the ways. Simple as that.
And for the noob AA people geting kills easy, well they're simpling killing other noobs that are dumb enough to fly. Or people that ignore the AA down below. It happens. Which is why it makes sense because pre patch you could have every type of AA on you AND a jet and you could STILL evade the missles. Ridiculous!
P.S. You even say it on your sig. "Players that have skill, ..." Then you turn around and say its unfair for the inexperienced pilots. Seriously man, make up your mind. It still requires skill, just more so now.
I'd like to add to my previous post. If they wanted Spec Ops to focus on infantry/armor combat, they wouldave given them BODY ARMOR and called them SUPER RAMBO EXPLOSIVE TOSSER. Yes. You morons have been THOUROUGHLY OWNED.
GotMex, you hit the nail right on the head. n00b.Worx, you say it's not fair for only the experienced pilots. Hold on, bro. Isn't the main reason all of you are bitching about the patch is because they made it easier for noobs? So which is it? Make up your mind.
A noob tank driver doesn't last long, neither does a noob chopper pilot. Noobs don't last long PERIOD. So why do noob PILOTS have to have it easy? WTF kind of logic is that? Yes lets make it easy so you can just bomb the enemy airfield, fly back to reload, and repeat with no effort. Great, thats awesome. But no thanks. Now noobs don't last long in the air at all, which will force people to learn new tactics if they want to survive. That's the way it should be. And as it's been clearly shown, you can still own. It just takes more effort as it SHOULD have been. Now I don't get bothered at all when a noob takes off in a jet or chopper because I know they'll be dead in less than a minute. So please stop making excuses and just admit you're lazy and don't want to adapt. The sooner you admit it, the better off you'll be, because it's only a matter of time before EA requires ALL servers to patch. Have a nice day.
A noob tank driver doesn't last long, neither does a noob chopper pilot. Noobs don't last long PERIOD. So why do noob PILOTS have to have it easy? WTF kind of logic is that? Yes lets make it easy so you can just bomb the enemy airfield, fly back to reload, and repeat with no effort. Great, thats awesome. But no thanks. Now noobs don't last long in the air at all, which will force people to learn new tactics if they want to survive. That's the way it should be. And as it's been clearly shown, you can still own. It just takes more effort as it SHOULD have been. Now I don't get bothered at all when a noob takes off in a jet or chopper because I know they'll be dead in less than a minute. So please stop making excuses and just admit you're lazy and don't want to adapt. The sooner you admit it, the better off you'll be, because it's only a matter of time before EA requires ALL servers to patch. Have a nice day.
Hey geniuses, you say spec ops was effective against armor and infantry with the C4 chucking. Hold on a minute. Hold on a goddamned minute. Isn't that what ASSAULT, SUPPORT, AND ANTITANK ARE FOR?!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Assault, Support, and Antitank were made to specialize in infantry and anti-armor combat, NOT SPEC OPS. Spec Ops was designed to infiltrate and SABATOGE the enemy assets. Stealth was their primary tactic. Not running out in the open tossing super grenades and owning everyone. So don't give me any of that realistic or not realistic and you can toss C4 in real life BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLCRAP.
Pre patch Spec Ops was MORE effective vs infantry AND armor than the freakin kits that were designed for it! Does that make any sense to you? Please, explain to me how it could POSSIBLY make sense.
You cannot counter that argument AT ALL. I'd love to see you try. And that, ladies and gents, is why they patched it. Now people will actually play Support, Engineer, and Snipers! Wow, sure is nice knowing they're worth a damn now. Before you start with the whining about the mines remember it's a server option to turn FF on or off for mines so there is NO excuse there. Other than that, it's your fault for running into it. So please, I'd like to hear a counter to this argument. Enlighten us. Tell us how they ruined infantry combat for real. You will only show your true colors, and that is a cheap ass who can't play the game the way it was meant to be played. Do us a favor and go back to UT or some other FPS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Assault, Support, and Antitank were made to specialize in infantry and anti-armor combat, NOT SPEC OPS. Spec Ops was designed to infiltrate and SABATOGE the enemy assets. Stealth was their primary tactic. Not running out in the open tossing super grenades and owning everyone. So don't give me any of that realistic or not realistic and you can toss C4 in real life BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLCRAP.
Pre patch Spec Ops was MORE effective vs infantry AND armor than the freakin kits that were designed for it! Does that make any sense to you? Please, explain to me how it could POSSIBLY make sense.
You cannot counter that argument AT ALL. I'd love to see you try. And that, ladies and gents, is why they patched it. Now people will actually play Support, Engineer, and Snipers! Wow, sure is nice knowing they're worth a damn now. Before you start with the whining about the mines remember it's a server option to turn FF on or off for mines so there is NO excuse there. Other than that, it's your fault for running into it. So please, I'd like to hear a counter to this argument. Enlighten us. Tell us how they ruined infantry combat for real. You will only show your true colors, and that is a cheap ass who can't play the game the way it was meant to be played. Do us a favor and go back to UT or some other FPS.
"Ehmm did you get your stats reset? If not it´s a shame to have just that points with about 100 hours of playing... o.O"
In case you didn't notice it's a different account altogether. I started my {9thinf} account when I joined them. Although I'm going to play my original account now because I'm gonna take a break from clan activity.
I STILL don't get this crap about killing jets so easily! Obviously the people you shot down, regardless of thier rank, deserved to be shot down because they ignored you in the AA. I've been flying since the patch and I have no problems staying alive because I'm smart enough to strafe every enemy stinger/IGLA pad as I fly near them and I ALWAYS watch my six for an enemy jet. I still die every now and then (you can't stop AA and jets at the same time), and I obviously die more now than before the patch but hey, it's fine by me because it works. I'd like to know that a pilot fears me if I hop into a stinger or mobile AA, instead of laughing as my missles fly past him and hit a friendly instead.
If you people wanna bitch at EA/DICE, it should be for making jets overpowered and allowing C4 chucking in the FIRST PLACE. So please, go back to your 1.12 or CS or whatever. You won't be missed. When you're ready to actually WORK for points, use teamwork, and play better, we'll be here waitin for ya.
In case you didn't notice it's a different account altogether. I started my {9thinf} account when I joined them. Although I'm going to play my original account now because I'm gonna take a break from clan activity.
I STILL don't get this crap about killing jets so easily! Obviously the people you shot down, regardless of thier rank, deserved to be shot down because they ignored you in the AA. I've been flying since the patch and I have no problems staying alive because I'm smart enough to strafe every enemy stinger/IGLA pad as I fly near them and I ALWAYS watch my six for an enemy jet. I still die every now and then (you can't stop AA and jets at the same time), and I obviously die more now than before the patch but hey, it's fine by me because it works. I'd like to know that a pilot fears me if I hop into a stinger or mobile AA, instead of laughing as my missles fly past him and hit a friendly instead.
If you people wanna bitch at EA/DICE, it should be for making jets overpowered and allowing C4 chucking in the FIRST PLACE. So please, go back to your 1.12 or CS or whatever. You won't be missed. When you're ready to actually WORK for points, use teamwork, and play better, we'll be here waitin for ya.
I just don't get it. I've been flying jets since 1.2 and I still kick ass. I just die a few more times. Big deal. I'm smart enough to go after AA more aggresively and ALWAYS check my six for a jet. Is it really that hard to adapt? Most of the whiners are just lazy in my opinion. Lazy to change tactics and use teamwork to help eliminate AA. Those were the same people that always went lone wolf and camped the enemy airfield for easy kills. Now that they can't do that anymore so they refuse to play 1.2. Same as the people who C4 chucked. Oh well better for us. Less assholes to worry about.
So they killed infantry combat by making infantry weapons better and removing the cheap tactic that was C4 chucking. OK explain to me again how they killed infantry combat? I'm confused.
You know this is so funny. Basically everyone who is bitching about the patch are the same people who told everyone else before "Oh you dont like my C4/jet/noob tube? ADAPT and OVERCOME you whiners LOL!
Well guess what? The tables have turned and now its YOUR TURN. I think the reactions from these homos is worse than anyone who ever complained pre patch. OMG I CANT OWN WITH MY CHEAP TACTICS THAT REQUIRE SKILLZ SO I'LL GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME! Boycott the patch WAHH WAHH WAHH!
It is YOUR turn to adapt and overcome now. Nothing you say will change the patch. Deal with it and start playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Pre patch Spec Ops and jets were HATED and everyone laughed at support and AA. Now support, snipers, engineers, and AA are a valuable part of the team, AS THEY SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. So either get used to it, or leave the game for the rest of us non-fag-homo-cheap-ass bitches. Thank you.
Well guess what? The tables have turned and now its YOUR TURN. I think the reactions from these homos is worse than anyone who ever complained pre patch. OMG I CANT OWN WITH MY CHEAP TACTICS THAT REQUIRE SKILLZ SO I'LL GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME! Boycott the patch WAHH WAHH WAHH!
It is YOUR turn to adapt and overcome now. Nothing you say will change the patch. Deal with it and start playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Pre patch Spec Ops and jets were HATED and everyone laughed at support and AA. Now support, snipers, engineers, and AA are a valuable part of the team, AS THEY SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. So either get used to it, or leave the game for the rest of us non-fag-homo-cheap-ass bitches. Thank you.
LOL have you seen my jet stats, man? Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm far from noob, and I know how difficult it is to own in a jet. I was merely stating that it's just alot harder to own now. A pro pilot used to be UNSTOPPABLE and that's why the fix was made. I still own with a jet, I just don't completely dominate the map like I used to, which is FINE BY ME, it should have ALWAYS been that way. And guess what? Your clan will STILL own. All you have to do is adapt to the changes. Reading all these threads I see nothing but bitching and no action. No one has even tried to adapt or given the changes a chance. You proved my point by continuing to play on a 1.12 server. Give it a chance, adapt, and you'll see that your skill and the skill of your clan will still come out on top. And yes I misspelled your name. Sorry. At least I don't type KarkLAND like most of the idiots on this forum.
Flecco said it best on another thread: "All the C4/jet/chopper whores who told the whiners to adapt and overcome are now being told to do the same thing. The tables have turned. It's YOUR TURN NOW, BITCH! Adapt and overcome!" (not his words verbatim btw)
Flecco said it best on another thread: "All the C4/jet/chopper whores who told the whiners to adapt and overcome are now being told to do the same thing. The tables have turned. It's YOUR TURN NOW, BITCH! Adapt and overcome!" (not his words verbatim btw)
OMFG.....are you people retarded? Seriously. ARE YOU PEOPLE STUPID OR WHAT? Can you NOT read that the friendly fire for mines is an OPTION on the servers now?!! ITS AN OPTION!! THAT MEANS IF YOU WANT TO BITCH AT SOMEONE BITCH AT THE SERVER ADMIN FOR TURNING MINE FF OFF! For god sakes shut the hell up about the mines already! I've never seen so many people that don't bother to read up on a simple detail. Instead they just bitch and moan like a little child because engineers and snipers are worth a damn now.
I personally LOVE the fact that you can't destroy enemy mines now. That simply means you can't run around blindly anymore. Also, engineers can still disarm them so they are not totally unstoppable, and they have plans to let snipers recover thier mines in a future patch. Hell, you couldn't destroy C4 before the patch, but did anyone bitch about that? No, because everyone was a pansy, C4-chucking LAME ASS, that's why. Please, adapt to the changes or stop playing the game. Better yet, just go ahead and quit, then go outside and run into a busy street. You'll be doing me a favor.
ShowMeTheMonkey, your sig rocks. That is all.
I personally LOVE the fact that you can't destroy enemy mines now. That simply means you can't run around blindly anymore. Also, engineers can still disarm them so they are not totally unstoppable, and they have plans to let snipers recover thier mines in a future patch. Hell, you couldn't destroy C4 before the patch, but did anyone bitch about that? No, because everyone was a pansy, C4-chucking LAME ASS, that's why. Please, adapt to the changes or stop playing the game. Better yet, just go ahead and quit, then go outside and run into a busy street. You'll be doing me a favor.
ShowMeTheMonkey, your sig rocks. That is all.
Noob.Warx, people like you are the reason the fix was made. Now you actually have to use TEAMWORK and SKILL to survive in the air. OH CRAP! No more flying to the enemy airfield/carrier for some easy kills then coming around to reload, rinse, and repeat for easy point farming. Face the facts and admit that you sucked then and you suck even more now. Don't like to get owned by AA? Well then learn to adapt, don't fly, or take your own advice and go play CS. I'm a jet/chopper whore myself, and I'm doing just fine after the patch so SUCK IT. I hope you and all you other whiny ass bitches quit playing BF2 so the REAL pilots and teamplayers can shine again. The rest of you can go to hell.
If your team can't land on Wake with the full support of the carrier guns, jets, Cobra, and the Stinger on the island, along with the boats and blackhawks, then it's hopeless to begin with, bro. You know as well as I do an uncoordinated team like that wouldn't be able to hold an outpost on Wake even if they managed to capture it anyway.
Hey Spearhead, you wanna know how the USMC can make landfall in Wake? A little thing called TEAMWORK. In case you forgot, it still only takes a quick spray of the guns to blow an IGLA and those are the only types of AA on Wake. So the jet pilots aim for the IGLAs, someone mans the guns on the carrier to stop the J10 camping whores, and someone mans the US arty island Stinger to support the carrier, boats, and Blackhawks as they make landfall. Use your freaking head! It now takes SKILL and TEAMWORK to get the job done, as it SHOULD have ALWAYS been. I'm a jet/chopper whore myself and I think this is the BEST DAMNED patch EA/DICE has released yet! I hope all the lame asses stop playing the game and go back to thier CS and UT. Then the game will be even more fun!
You cant deny the damage the mighty PKM inflicts on vehicles. Too bad the thing is so slowwwwwwww. The MG36 is wicked fast so I find myself using both weapons, so I end up torn, kinda like choosing which girl I wanna bang.
Look, guys, if you beef the AT kit up from what it already is you will make it more powerful than the other kits. Who would bother being assault when AT can kill infantry from med/long distance and with nades? Then still be able to take out a tank? Everyone would play AT and it would be unbalanced.
Every kit has a weakness, and currently, the only weakness AT has is engaging troops from med to long range. If you "fix" that weakness, the kit will not have any cons making it UNBALANCED. I'll say it again for you morons that don't understand english. The AT kit has body armor which is designed for ANTI INFANTRY already. If you give them grenades or increase thier small arms range you make the kit UNBALANCED!
I personally want the body armor removed from AT but I doubt it will happen. And even now you can slightly make up for the range weakness by engaging with the SRAW/Eryx. The RPG-7 doesn't work well for that because you can't guide it. So keep bitching, noobs. I'm sure you'll get your UBER 1337 RAMBO KIT someday, when the game is no longer played by the masses.
Every kit has a weakness, and currently, the only weakness AT has is engaging troops from med to long range. If you "fix" that weakness, the kit will not have any cons making it UNBALANCED. I'll say it again for you morons that don't understand english. The AT kit has body armor which is designed for ANTI INFANTRY already. If you give them grenades or increase thier small arms range you make the kit UNBALANCED!
I personally want the body armor removed from AT but I doubt it will happen. And even now you can slightly make up for the range weakness by engaging with the SRAW/Eryx. The RPG-7 doesn't work well for that because you can't guide it. So keep bitching, noobs. I'm sure you'll get your UBER 1337 RAMBO KIT someday, when the game is no longer played by the masses.
Ausfinn, I seriously hope you're joking. Anyway, I would purposely join that server and type : SATAN IS YOUR TRUE GOD! BOW TO HIS GLORY YOU STUPID SONS OF BITCHES! Seriously though, to associate a server with religion is just plain stupid. So you're Christian. WHO GIVES A $HIT? Seriously! Keep your stupid religion to yourselves, you bunch of hypocritical retards.
Um Aluminium is only how the brits pronounce it, and we say Aluminum here in the stats. Just like you say PoTAYto, I say PoTAHto. You can agrue this till the cows come home, bro.
Jamer, I wan't to fly against you man. Nothing personal, just wanna see what you're capable of. Name the server and time.