Gilgalad
Renaissance Soldier
+2|7034|Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
First off, I'll state that I am overall pleased with the new maps (32 player size? These maps really need 50+ people to get a good battle going - I just want the 300 ticket count), weapons, and vehicles.

When I joined the server I played them in this order: Taraba, Great Wall, then Smoke Screen.

Didn't try to camp the airfield and whore a jet the first round, so I didn't experience this crap piece of European engineering until Smoke Screen came around.

The Euro"fighter" - Armed like a fighter, but flies worse than a bomber.

Max Speed = ~1000 kph
Speed without afterburner = ~770 kph

Ability to hold turn with MiG-29 = laughable
Planes desire to return to its natural state (pile of scrap on the ground) = Let's just say it is very determined to bottom out

I wasn't a fan of the "real" helo feel they tried with the Hind for SF, and even less of a fan of their new plane. It is slower than the bombers, armed less heavily, banks poorly, and doesn't pull up from dive bombing well. And worst of all is the constant fall that occurs if you are doing anything but flying level. Why should a jet lose lots of altitude making a turn?

Anyways, I just wanted to open up a place for all of the pilots out there to bitch about this junk vehicle that Dice put out there which ruins air balance (I shredded the Eurofighter once I got up in the air with a MiG when the teams were swapped).

Edit (Addendum): Thank God that this jet doesn't get a chance to go up against the J-10.

Last edited by Gilgalad (2006-03-14 11:50:38)

General_CoLin_Tassi
Member
+-2|6957|England, UK
Shit. I hope that's not true. The Eurofighter should be on a par with the J10. Similar designs. Download of Euroforce complete in 20 mins.

Last edited by General_CoLin_Tassi (2006-03-14 11:58:18)

Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7033|UK
Damn straight it's an absolute joke, dice must fucking hate Europe first with SF the english posh cunt voices and now giving this EU army another stupid voice and a shitty plane to compliment it, I think they could justify it if it had a bigger payload but it has nothing extra to make balance, unlike the J-10 > F-35 situation where the J10 is more agile etc but with the F35 at least you get the Vertical Take Off and loads more cannon ammo. I'm soreley dissapointed in the Typhoon I shot it down numerous times with teh Su34 and he didn't get me once even with this stupid AA which now seems to hit only 50% of the time. (I wish they would make their minds up on the AA I can't read what it's gonna do anymore lol).

Edit: Also it's v.ugly.

Last edited by Milk.org (2006-03-14 12:02:13)

joker2168
Member
+0|7009
I agree just flew it. What a PIG. Very sloppy. You are going to be at a disadvantage on the euro team with this thing.
w00tson
Member
+0|6884|Schmuckland

Gilgalad wrote:

I wasn't a fan of the "real" helo feel they tried with the Hind for SF, and even less of a fan of their new plane.
So, you haven't tried the Tiger then? It really pines for the ground, that one. It is agile and fast though. Once mastered, I think it will be the best chopper in BF2.

Eurofighter also seems to pull to the right. Haven't found anything positive to say about it yet.
staticblue
Vindicator
+28|6992|Houston, TX
Balance.
Gilgalad
Renaissance Soldier
+2|7034|Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

q00tson wrote:

So, you haven't tried the Tiger then?
Nope, but helos that want to fall at least remind me of my DC days. ;P
Chowley
Member
+1|6943|Ireland
Jesus cant wait to try the Tiger. Cant log into EA Downloader for some reason though .
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|7013|Hell, p.o box 666

I agree, the Eurofighter is not the par for j10 and first I´ve thought it is worse a bomber. But after some rounds I was able to shoot the mig without having too much probs (the enemy pilot was everytime the same guy, and not the uber- but skilled enough to end the first round with 0 death)... But as I´ve said, the Eurofighter should be more agilely and faster.

By the way, wtf is this speech?! The sas-guys in sf sucks, but "we" sound like we´ve eaten our microphone.
Viper38
Member
+118|6927
I've found the Eurofighter to be extremely sluggish. This is rather silly considering the the Typhoon was conceived during the late Cold War to counter the threat of the new generation Soviet Twin-Engine fighters such as the Fulcrum and the Flanker. Why has Dice decided to ignore the historical record and make the Eurofighter a piece of crap?
-=|BW|=-Hollow_Moon
Member
+5|7012
Dont expect much from the tiger, it handles worse than the Mi-28 in my opinion, very easily clips things on Smoke' & Its similar to flying the SF attack choppers. The cobra is still clearly the most manueverable attack chopper.
kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7100|Bryan/College Station, TX
I have to agree that handling the Euro Fighter I expected it to be a bit faster than it is. It seems to have a good vertical manuevering ability but banking is sluggish. It seems less maneuverable than the Mig 29 however it also seems to accelerate faster than the Mig 29. I think it will just take some getting used to however I can easily match speeds with the bombers now so getting behind them and staying there is rather easy. The Euro Fighter is very easy to pilot against bombers but is a challenge to fly against the Mig 29.

As for the Tiger Heli. It's cannon is the same as the Mig's and has exploding shells so that is a plus. It's ability to move about however is hindered. The gun does not pivot as much as the Mig's so the pilot has to have a greater angle of attack to hit things directly below the heli with the gun. The TV missle does not seem to be any different than normal. The heli itself handles oddly and doesn't seem to be as maneuverable as the Cobra or Z-10. However I like it better than the Mig in piloting. Seems to be more stable at first impressions.

Last edited by kilroy0097 (2006-03-14 23:24:02)

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tF-voodoochild
Pew Pew!
+216|7104|San Francisco

Viper38 wrote:

Why has Dice decided to ignore the historical record and make the Eurofighter a piece of crap?
Most likely because this is a video game and not a war simulator and as such things need balance instead of realism.
General_CoLin_Tassi
Member
+-2|6957|England, UK
First impressions of Eurofighter. Slow and sluggish with a crap turning circle. I was expecting something like the J10. Oh well.
StickyBombs
Member
+8|7014|Sacramento, CA (USA)
I think it kicks ass!!! But hey who cares what I think.
JAMER
Member
+3|6929
I think it sucks!  Don't even try to bomb with it cause it can't pull out of a dive to save its life.  Banks like a slug.

Mig and F18 are still my favorites.  Where is the F-22?
Eckzack
The east-german Fuxxer
+37|7101|Germany / Saxony
Eurofighter has worse handling than the F15...
nuff said...
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Viper38
Member
+118|6927

tF-voodoochild wrote:

Viper38 wrote:

Why has Dice decided to ignore the historical record and make the Eurofighter a piece of crap?
Most likely because this is a video game and not a war simulator and as such things need balance instead of realism.
I take that as a viable point but the Eurofighter is seriously imbalanced compared to the MiG - do you not think?
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6947|Tampa Bay Florida
Maybe EA/Dice are trying to make the aircraft suck in the expansion so people won't complain about getting bombed........... weird tho.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|6887|Washington, DC

This isn't a complaint but a question, on EA's site for EF it says this in the description:

It also has four beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles and two short-range air-to-air missiles. For air-to-surface missions, the Typhoon carries anti-armor weapons—three under each wing and one under the center fuselage—as well as laser-guided weapons.

Does it actually have laser-guided missiles or bombs? Or is it the usual 6 AA misisles and 2 bombs?
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7004|The United Center
i would have to agree.  after flying it today i was surprised at how slow it was.  i was able to stay behind migs and the such with it, but just barely.

also, while on the MEC side, i was able to shoot it down quite a few times in the su-34.  i can't help but say i'm a bit disappointed by it.

however, the booster pack itself is awesome.  the new maps are great and i love the new weapons.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7013|Scotland

i dunno what theyre trying to do, stop planehworing? not gonna work mate, but anyways, l believe that the next patch will be announced in the next couple of days, no need to be psychic for this, just need to know that EA are faggots. ahh well, wot you gonna do, eurofighter sucks? guessed so far by all my frineds on xfire screaming at how bad the pile of shit is. never gonna try it unless the server is unranked, lol. mig-29 is for me
arson
Member
+99|6893|New York

General_CoLin_Tassi wrote:

Shit. I hope that's not true. The Eurofighter should be on a par with the J10. Similar designs. Download of Euroforce complete in 20 mins.
LMAO its not even close...
elite
Member
+89|6971|Sheffield, England
yeah in game may suck, but in real life, the eurofighter is no doubt the best fighter in the world
StokoE
Losers-Server
+51|7097|UK

Gilgalad wrote:

First off, I'll state that I am overall pleased with the new maps (32 player size? These maps really need 50+ people to get a good battle going - I just want the 300 ticket count), weapons, and vehicles.
OT: Sorry.. My Losers-Server.co.uk Server is running 300 Tickets.. You just need the correct software installed to enable 64 sized maps (as 32) so it forces 300 tickets.. Confused ? me too..

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