dshak wrote:
Okay....
first of all.... I didn't mean to start a "my dad can beat up your dad" argument as someone else on here suggested. The only point I will counter is that guy who says the SAS are better because they don't rely on technology like american SF do.
This is a ridiculous statement. A) they use just as much technology, and B) anyone who knows ANYTHING about SEAL training would never, ever, say that.
The IDF are probably the most potent SF in the world and here is why, they have much of the same, training, tech, etc etc as everybody else, the difference is in operational experience. While most modern SF operators spend a large amount of time training and a small amount, well, operating... the IDF are constantly forced to conduct live excercises (because the brains of western civ decided somehow it would be a good idea to create Israel right in the middle of the Islamic Fundamentalist world) Whether its raids into Palestinine or home security actions, I'd be willing to bet the IDF SF have nearly 10 times the operational experience of any SF unit in the world.
I'm an american. not jewish. no ties at ALL to Israel... but those guys are BAD MOTHER F**KERS. PERIOD.
Also, for the guy who said "IDF=terrorists"... I won't defend them or attack them, except to say I don't think you have a right to either, that is, unless you also happen to live in a country surrounded by enemies, constantly under attack, and where people tend to be blown into pieces while sitting at their favorite coffee shop or pizza parlor. They are aggressive, they are proactive, they are controversial indeed... but they are also dealing with an equally if not more aggressive culture hell bent on destroying their country, one that only understands one means of negotiation themselves - murder.
Well, Most of the developed nations special forces have hands on experience, but unlike israel, they don't brag about it.
Afghanistan is pretty much a special forces super bowl, providing hands on experience to regular army, air force, marines, and special forces personnel.
By the way, the SAS has been doing this alot longer then israel.