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why ty sir much appreciated
Thanks man, I like makin vids that grab your stomach and go, thanks again for the comment!
How did you put it in the post like that?
I made this for two reasons...
1. I wanted to make a vid with this song in particular just because its bad-ass
B. I wanted to show how difficult it is to run across a good gunner, my co-pilot for the beginning is so-so.
Things would have been different had he been more patient, I wait as long as possible while setting up and always try to set up best i can.
Patience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJSZsaZAqjw
Edit: I'd like to add that I have run into excellent gunners from time to time... but not many servers have battlerecorder enabled AND good gunners.
1. I wanted to make a vid with this song in particular just because its bad-ass
B. I wanted to show how difficult it is to run across a good gunner, my co-pilot for the beginning is so-so.
Things would have been different had he been more patient, I wait as long as possible while setting up and always try to set up best i can.
Patience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJSZsaZAqjw
Edit: I'd like to add that I have run into excellent gunners from time to time... but not many servers have battlerecorder enabled AND good gunners.
I'm about to play right now fer a couple hours see ya's there!
Best way to play Gator, wish it was possible....
16 size
32 players
300 tickets
F T W
16 size
32 players
300 tickets
F T W
I'd enjoy them more if the flags werent so sporadicly placed, the 32 size Devils Perch is great, but the rest of the map as afar as the islands go in a 64 size kinda sux, Leviathon is cool to an extent, but again sporadic flag placement ruins it for me.
hell yeah peepsplay S/F, best teamplay by farShadow893 wrote:
Do people still play SF? I may just re-install it then.
I don't know what it is lately, but my time spent playing S/F has been outstanding as of late. Not just because of my scores, but becuase of you guys (the majority)
I'd have to say on a guesstimate that at least 75% of the time I can get a squad up an runnin too kick some ass.
Point is, the teamwork from some of you folks has been a blessing.
I like to pilot the APACHE alot to try and help folks get medals and such, so when I land the chopper to tell my co-pilot something (cuz I can't get my mic to work) and they patiently listen to what i say, I'm beside myself.
To those that frequent the same servers as I and team up with me to give the tangos hell, I thank you for providing me the possibility of playing this game as it was meant to played, with teamwork.
The only thing I can think of is most non-teamwork oriented folks went to 2142...
All I know is the teamplay in S/F has NEVER been at a higher peak than it is now!
Great gaming folks!!
CL0CK
I'd have to say on a guesstimate that at least 75% of the time I can get a squad up an runnin too kick some ass.
Point is, the teamwork from some of you folks has been a blessing.
I like to pilot the APACHE alot to try and help folks get medals and such, so when I land the chopper to tell my co-pilot something (cuz I can't get my mic to work) and they patiently listen to what i say, I'm beside myself.
To those that frequent the same servers as I and team up with me to give the tangos hell, I thank you for providing me the possibility of playing this game as it was meant to played, with teamwork.
The only thing I can think of is most non-teamwork oriented folks went to 2142...
All I know is the teamplay in S/F has NEVER been at a higher peak than it is now!
Great gaming folks!!
CL0CK
HEY!!!! I do that... Just to show off though to be honest, one or two A/T guys easily down a chopper inside the hanger. Its fun to do, but extremely risky.Volatile_Squirrel wrote:
Iron Gator.
All I can remember from that map is choppers circle straffing the deck, killing everything. Hell, they even started flying inside the f-ing carrier, mowing people down inside.
It all depends on the teams for Gator dude.... Whoever takes the HIND has got to be pretty good at piloting to do any good for the team.basetballjones wrote:
My least fav is Night Flight, it's a very confusing map and things are ...scattered.
As far as Gator goes, I prefer to start on the MEC side.. not only do you get an uncap, but with two choppers, APC, tungaska, several boats..
Let me just put it simply, if you cannot overpower the essex with skill and determination, you are doing something wrong. Regroup, replan, reconoiter, and try again..
Hint- don't stop at the engine room, go to the mess hall with a squad leader and just spawn the attack from there.
If you cant get your team on the same page your kinda fucked, you need folks to spawn on squad leaders etc...
I can get on the essex almost 90% of the time at the bginning of the round, usually as S/L too, I take the hanger bay flags first since theyre inside the ship and are away from the APACHE, cuz if the seals have even a decent APACHE pilot MEC has its work cut out for them
What a lucky prickstryyker wrote:
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people you have dogtags of.
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After watching your tutorials on how to fly after flyin on my own for lotsa hours I've come to the conclusion that you just might use macros. I been meanin to post on this but I forgot.slicknic wrote:
onlything that could be considered anything close to that would be some feel solo flying an exploit.. which is retarded and false... but also you can use macros for tv missles.. but still doesnt mean youll hit your target soo... no theres no real 'chopper' hack that i know of.
It seems like you switch seats, change to TV and fire all within the time it takes to press one button...Or was that video made a long time ago? Not that I care, I don't give two flying fucks, I'm just curious. (not that you'd admit to it)
I usually get at least one kill per rocket in an apache..... but thats become boring so I give all the kills to my gunner if he's good, if he's not, I only let him kill infantry and i take out all armor, cuz If my gunner dont know how to use a TV missile I wont chance our lives by leaving that tunguska up to my mediocre gunner.Vintageologist wrote:
The reason why you see so many people with high ranks (and I mean really high like Colonel+) using almost exclusively vehicles is that this is the only thing that makes them be so high up. They find something where they can get many points out and do that all the time... vehicle whoring... medic whoring... whatev
But of course there are also just normal players who just invested some time... and even the vehicle whores are not per definition bad... some just have fun doing that and like it... but it's those who tk for it who are bad. For example... I met this guy from Germany who was some General... hes name was something like Frankenstein(ger) or something... but whatev... he was like the best goddamn Apache pilot I ever encountered... he was pilot but still managed to kill people with the Hydras like there was no tomorrow not like the normal single flyers, who actually don't really cut it... but yea, he wasn't one of those who fly you to the edge of the map so they can fly alone... actually, he initially was alone in it (Ghost Town) already in action when I asked for a pickup and instantly got picked up Nice
I polay on Warlord and Ghost-Town, if you see =CL0CKW0RK=0WN@GE, you have found me and i will be more than happy to teach while I fly, BUT YOU ALSO MUST USE COMS!!!!!!!!!
Being a gunner means you have to look aT WHAT YOUR PILOTS LOOKING AT but this is all for another post.
I refuse to use armor as I beleive it takes less skill to camp a flag with a peice of armor, than it does to circle a flag at high speed while capping. The difference between ARMOR WHORES AND HELO WHORES.... is helos dont camp.... they always move, theyre weak as in they blow up easily. But once you master the flying part, its all about hooking up your gunner, and thats what I'm all about. If you see me waiting for the APACHE in ghost-town, let me get it, I will take you to the top of the list when you press TAB. I am not a stingy pilot unless theres no time to line my gunner up..... CRAP!!!!!! THISWAS ALL FOR ANOTHER POST!!!
APACHE-WHORE
APACHE-PRO
APACHE-FTW!!!!
I try to post informative and humerous posts, you will not get one or the other, sorryExecutionerStyle wrote:
People never seem to realize that putting "retard-friendly" options in a poll will cause everyone to pick said options.
UTAC EF+AF server seems to run BRecorder.
Anyways.... hows yer ma, and do you like pizza, or, could you give two flying fucks, or, are you trying to steal my APACHE?
I'm currently looking for a server that runs Ghost-Town with Battlerecorder on account of me bein a pro APACHE pilot.
Well...........?
Yep same problem here.... WHERE IN THE PHUCK DID YOU FIND A SERVER WITH BATTLERECORDER?!?!?!?!??!?!?1?!?!?!?!?!?!
Easy, easy. Frederique'Fredrik wrote:
Yeah, those jackasses who can`t take a joke for what it is troll.DeadboyUSMC wrote:
Another jackass brought to you by the anonymity of the Internet!Fredrik wrote:
Play WOW.
Edit: And speaking of anononymity: I use my real first name, not some retarded 12 year old kids nick like you...
KIngJes........
ITS ALL ABOUT THE PRONE SPAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Heres what ya do:
See enemy, hold down either strafe button, then hit prone (you will roll, but you won't notice it on your screen) then, hit your crouch key to quickly get back up followed by either strafe key and prone again for another roll.
I play S/F in "G.I.JOES" "ROCKHEADGAMING" "MODERS GHOST-TOWN" "LUSTHOGSQUADCHICAGO" I only play S/F, but I have 1000 hours and am more than willing to teach the nue guys!
In the pastI have gotten Karma from some folks for pissing on these so-called "Dipshit-Divers" But what I explained has no "hop" to it.
I used to hate the hoppers too, nowadays when I want to bunny-hop and play like a maniac, I play in servers that allow it.
Keep in mind that some servers don't allow this type of play, one server that I frequent because I both LOVE and HATE theyre rules is the lusthogsquadchicago I play there to get away from the bunnyhoppers and baserapers when i don't fell like bunnyhopping or baseraping.
ITS ALL ABOUT THE PRONE SPAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Heres what ya do:
See enemy, hold down either strafe button, then hit prone (you will roll, but you won't notice it on your screen) then, hit your crouch key to quickly get back up followed by either strafe key and prone again for another roll.
I play S/F in "G.I.JOES" "ROCKHEADGAMING" "MODERS GHOST-TOWN" "LUSTHOGSQUADCHICAGO" I only play S/F, but I have 1000 hours and am more than willing to teach the nue guys!
In the pastI have gotten Karma from some folks for pissing on these so-called "Dipshit-Divers" But what I explained has no "hop" to it.
I used to hate the hoppers too, nowadays when I want to bunny-hop and play like a maniac, I play in servers that allow it.
Keep in mind that some servers don't allow this type of play, one server that I frequent because I both LOVE and HATE theyre rules is the lusthogsquadchicago I play there to get away from the bunnyhoppers and baserapers when i don't fell like bunnyhopping or baseraping.
They are hillarious to drive aorund with a pasenger on the front shooting rockets and the like, its even funnier to see to folks go by doing that. Not exactly sound tactics tho
WHere are all the civilians in BF2? Gotta suck to be them, every time we load a map up they gotta evacuate, poor bastards....
That is some funny shit, +1, but yeah the last one is faked on accounta no splashies
Easier to get four kills with an AK/GP-30, than it is with a G3, I can only manage 2-3 kills with one G3 clip.DirtyMexican wrote:
g3 g3DesmondLocke wrote:
So you can go 1-2-3.........1-2-3.......1-2-3.....Darky wrote:
I just use an assault rifle.
While your enemy goes 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12???
The GL is much more efficient. Kill em' anyway you can. Noob tube? Yeah cause you got "noobed" by it.
But with a nade launcher you get the nade kill, then you got yer full clip to pick off three more...
On average anyway
I AGREE 100%MorbidFetus wrote:
The pilot should be able to eject the gunner if he sucks. I usually don't let gunners in my helo unless I know their abilities.ibfr33k wrote:
Having someone else make use of the MG on the heli will do more good than just solo. They should give someone a chance to help their team out by letting someone be gunner.
Great pilot + Bad gunner = Dead chopper (or) Suicidal pilot
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!BrOk_MoRdU wrote:
Solo heloing is hella lame.I'm not a very experienced pilot but I'm not a bad gunner.And sometimes I'd like to get some chopper time in and most times i can't because some Capt. or Admiral douche refuses to let anyone fly w/ him.They would rather sacrifice teamwork for chopper whoring.
I understand that there are some awful gunners out there but they could at least give their teammates a chance to prove their worth.
EA/Dice should make it to were the TV missile can't be used UNLESS there is someone in the pilot seat.
Also,it's kind of an exploit 'cause i never hear a buzzer in my tank letting me know that death looms.
And i know how to solo chopper,I've practiced on single player and it's really not that hard to do.
How many times(in real life) has anyone seen a pilot kill his gunner,fly to their MO,and jump in the gunner seat so he can get credit for a kill?All while his chopper spins hopelessly out of conrtol but not crashing 'cause he managed to hop back in the pilot seat just in time.
THis is all it is:
(While flying) F2+Rt.Clk+Lt.Clk+F1 back to flying.
Although I'm sure its been stated a million times, WE PILOTS CHOOSE NOT TO PICK UP NOOBS BECAUSE YOU SHOOT THE FUCKING CHAINGUNS AT TANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know how many times on Ghost-Town I have flown under countless bridges in between buildings all the while avoiding AA and giving 90% of all the kills to my gunner only to sneak up on an enemy Hind from behind to have MY GUNNER SHOOT WILDY WITH THE FUCKIN CHAINGUN AND RUIN A PERFECT TV SHOT!
And no sir...YOU DONT KNOW HOW BAD THE SITUATION IS FOR PILOTS LOOKING FOR GOOD GUNNERS....
you don't fly.
I only fly the APACHE and thats it, but so you non-pilots claiming to be good gunners know, you can't affectively solo in an APACHE, it rolls on its side when you switch (to the right I beleive)
Since I can't run the TV affectively with an APACHE while I pilot it, I just use the regular missiles since theyre great for taking out infantry.
And most of the time I do it alone, because in the split-second my STUPID-ASS gunner fires that muthafuckin chain-gun at a TANK thats taken me two bridge underpasses to sneak up on, we're DEAD.
****************************************GUNNERS*******************************************
YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THESE BIRDS WILL BE DESTROYED BY 2 A/T ROCKETS!!!!!!!
THESE A/T ROCKETS ARE GUIDED BY THE USER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you want to stay alive in a chopper you must understand that the chopper cannot hover for TV shots.....you gunners that think your good are in fact shitty gunners becuase you cannot hit a TV if the chopper is moving too fast.
I ran into a dude named "STANDOX" low-rank-ass player.... but the best dam gunner I ran into in a long ass time, hittin TV's on the run, hittin TV's in SUPER-FAST NOSE-DIVES.
When I have a gunner like that, these are how the scores go:
Me: Teampoints 35, Kills 0-5, Deaths 0-5
Good Gunner: Teampoints 0-5, Kills 35, Deaths 0-5
Summary: When I run into a good gunner all is well, I get my team points they get theyre combat points.
The problem right now is we have alot of people who think theyre great gunners but theyre not.
ALSO, NOTE THIS!!!
If a pilot lands somewhere out in the boonies, it does not mean he is being a dick, it means he needs to type something to you, more than likely he needs to tell you that your being an idiot by firing the chain-gun at tanks and/or armor or that FUCKING ENEMY HELO YOU JUST SNUK UP ON WICH WAS (right before your DUMBASS decided to fire the FUCKING CHAIN-GUN) HOVERING TRYING TO CAPTURE A FLAG AND NOW THAT PERFECT TEXT-BOOK TV IS A WASH AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH STOOOOOOOOOPID ASSSSS GUNNNERSSSSSSSSS AAAAAAA IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But there are great gunners out there, and when I find one while I play, I hook him up for just having the common sense to know WHEN to fire THAT LOUD ASS CHAIN-GUN!!!!!!!!!!!
And there are also shitty pilots too, I am turning into one day-by-day, there seems to be a huge influx of retardedededed gunners out there these days....
Retardededed Gunner: ratatatatatatat Dee-D-Dee ratatat Dee-D-Dee ratatatatatatatat
Pilot: Get ready for TV!!!!!!!!
Retardededed Gunner: ratatatatatatat Dee-D-Dee ratatat Dee-D-Dee ratatatatatatatat
Pilot: DUDE! WTF ARE YOU DOIN?!?!?! GET THAT TANK!!!!!!
Retardededed Gunner: ratatatatatatat Dee-D-Dee ratatat Dee-D-Dee ratatatatatatatat
Pilot: Fuckit, (Pilot then zeroes in on closest structure than bails at the last minute to ensure a "Dee-D-Dee is no more" pops up on-screen)
Nowadays thats what I do, I used to try hovering on the edge of a map to rid myself of theyre pestilance, could never get it to work, so now I just make em "no more"
I can honestly say I get props all the time for my flying skills from my gunners....but only the good gunners give me those props...I wonder why?
I agree with you on your sig militant, 100%, no need for unlocks, any weaponn with an "AK" in front of its name is all anyone will ever need. As far as meds go, theyre under-rated for USMC side as (to me) the L85 kinda sux and the M16 is a little weak. An entire team of AK-101s, AK-47u and that other AK for China side (I ferget the name) with those three guns a team of helmet-wearin droolers could find themselves in a iwinning situation.
Although, for "to-a-tee" accuracy, the G36 fam got it goin on in that aspect.
So, take your pick, do you know HOW to shoot an AK?
Or, do you know HOW to shoot a G36?
Maybe your luckey and can shoot both.
Someone once stated
"It aint the gun that gets folks killed, its the idiot next you that cant hold his own that gets you killed."
Although, for "to-a-tee" accuracy, the G36 fam got it goin on in that aspect.
So, take your pick, do you know HOW to shoot an AK?
Or, do you know HOW to shoot a G36?
Maybe your luckey and can shoot both.
Someone once stated
"It aint the gun that gets folks killed, its the idiot next you that cant hold his own that gets you killed."
I'm not a hunurd percent sure, but maybe C4 has to be "Planted" not "flung" to begin with....
Everything about snipers has been covered, and after reading ALL the posts, I've come to this...
It all depends on the player and what he's in the game for in the first place.
Also the mood/mindstate at the time... Sometimes I "feel" like sniping like an "assassin" where "the only thing that matters is the target" This means i may pick someone out of the crowd on the opposing team, usually high-ranked, and hunt them. Cat and mouse.
Other times (because I'm human and get bored periodically of doing the same repetitive things like tank whoring EVERY map) I like to run med, for the sole purpose of the guys on my team coming out of the round with less deaths than if I WASNT THERE. I like to make a difference in others' games, not for the rev-saves, or the points, just to know "I HELPED".
Hell, other times I play self-ish as hell, I steal kills, I focus on using shock-paddles, I Jihaad, I don't need to kill people with my piustol, but I do, and I do it out of spite, I weaken my enemy with my primary and finish them off with my pistol. Or, I'll camp as a sniper and rack up kills.
The biggest factor that determines my style of play is the team I am playing with, if they don't team/squad it up, then neither will I. I am a "Rambo-esque player" but I know how to lead a squad, if my squad-leader is shit. I leave it and start another and usually lead a squad to a cap 75% of the time for a rough estimate.
All in all, its like i said, it depends on what your playing for, keep in mind some folks play a few minutes before work, or school, so its all about kills and/or points.
Depending on my mood, its either about ME, or the TEAM.
But, the ONLY time its ONLY ABOUT ME, is when I get the same feeling from my current team, if my team doesnt care, I don't care, I refuse to try and rally a team of people that JUST WANT TO SNIPE.
The problem is we have too many people that want to play "Hero-Sniper" wich monopolizes the teams resources as far as taking out armor by having too many snipers, period.
I know we need snipers, but like every other game, we just have too many.
You need to know when the team needs a sniper, or a med, or...... you get the picture...
And now, I sit here and edit, I've also come to this...its these badges/medals that screws things up, it makes folks FOCUS on badges/medals, instead of the round.... Doesn't it?
It all depends on the player and what he's in the game for in the first place.
Also the mood/mindstate at the time... Sometimes I "feel" like sniping like an "assassin" where "the only thing that matters is the target" This means i may pick someone out of the crowd on the opposing team, usually high-ranked, and hunt them. Cat and mouse.
Other times (because I'm human and get bored periodically of doing the same repetitive things like tank whoring EVERY map) I like to run med, for the sole purpose of the guys on my team coming out of the round with less deaths than if I WASNT THERE. I like to make a difference in others' games, not for the rev-saves, or the points, just to know "I HELPED".
Hell, other times I play self-ish as hell, I steal kills, I focus on using shock-paddles, I Jihaad, I don't need to kill people with my piustol, but I do, and I do it out of spite, I weaken my enemy with my primary and finish them off with my pistol. Or, I'll camp as a sniper and rack up kills.
The biggest factor that determines my style of play is the team I am playing with, if they don't team/squad it up, then neither will I. I am a "Rambo-esque player" but I know how to lead a squad, if my squad-leader is shit. I leave it and start another and usually lead a squad to a cap 75% of the time for a rough estimate.
All in all, its like i said, it depends on what your playing for, keep in mind some folks play a few minutes before work, or school, so its all about kills and/or points.
Depending on my mood, its either about ME, or the TEAM.
But, the ONLY time its ONLY ABOUT ME, is when I get the same feeling from my current team, if my team doesnt care, I don't care, I refuse to try and rally a team of people that JUST WANT TO SNIPE.
The problem is we have too many people that want to play "Hero-Sniper" wich monopolizes the teams resources as far as taking out armor by having too many snipers, period.
I know we need snipers, but like every other game, we just have too many.
You need to know when the team needs a sniper, or a med, or...... you get the picture...
And now, I sit here and edit, I've also come to this...its these badges/medals that screws things up, it makes folks FOCUS on badges/medals, instead of the round.... Doesn't it?
Strange nothing prevents the possibility of cheats
This statement proves without a doubt, that people who do something out of the ordinary for an advantage in-game inevitably call people who DON'T use theyre technique a whiner.rawls wrote:
I stand corrected. In a more careful review of your post, i failed to spot any whining. However, it does lead me to beleive you are against those who practice this technique and that is why I responded.
In conclusion, anyone calling you a whiner for bad mouthing bunnyhoppers, obviously is one.
It would be fine iuf they limited the squad hopping so that you can only hop within the very first squad you create. you should be able to rotate WITHIN a squad, I can see why they're changing it though, its tons of folks spawning on any squad at any time, if we were limited to only jump with the first squad we join in game, we'd be all right...
Is that even possible to do?
edit:There would also have to be a way to mutiny a squad leader as well, but vote only within the squad.
If I'm workin with my normal squad, whoever is the medic becomes the SL when cappin a flag, and he gets himself some distance away. Works well.
Is that even possible to do?
edit:There would also have to be a way to mutiny a squad leader as well, but vote only within the squad.
If I'm workin with my normal squad, whoever is the medic becomes the SL when cappin a flag, and he gets himself some distance away. Works well.
You know what, I posted this in the wrong section, so I'm deleting it to avoid any ridicule, the idea was about a different style of "BF" game, not an improvement on the existing one. So rather than have my idea ridiculed and be bitched at for wrong topic posting, I'll humbly edit...
By far, THE most gratifying moment in a sniper round has got to be killing that C4-guy about to blow up a friendly tank, man that feels GOOD!
I chose all except clay killing, and killing the ego guy.
I use clays for self-defence most of the time.
I'll leave on clay at a recently capped flag and bring one with me if no support is readily available.
Or I set traps with them (put them by barrels, lol)
I chose all except clay killing, and killing the ego guy.
I use clays for self-defence most of the time.
I'll leave on clay at a recently capped flag and bring one with me if no support is readily available.
Or I set traps with them (put them by barrels, lol)
Balance is good, useless weapons are not.
This sums up what I was going to say perfectly, rotation of the SL is SO important, and it distributes time of SL to everyone.vpyroman wrote:
You do realize that you can't Squad Leader cycle anymore? So that means if your the SL and you die you can't just leave and come back and spawn on the new guy.
This also means you can't spawn on the SL when a round starts. So that means there are 32 people on that carrier at once. Easy commander kills
But, on the other hand I like the idea, and because I/we like it, doesnt categorize us as being whiners....
The real whiners are the ones who are scared of a gameplay change and don't look at it as a way to spice things up.
No, the real whiners here are the exploiters and of course, now they'll have to find some other way to change the game machanics on theyre own.
Why is it always the people that dont like change, are always the first to call whiners out on someone else?
Nobody whined about anything, just stating opinions with the every so often humorous anecdote.
Maybe, instead of calling everyone whiners, you "whiner-insinuators" need to learn how to hold DISCUSSIONS, rather than childinsh flamefests.
"you whine too much
you want realism? you hate people who take vehicles for kills and not capturing flags? do you not see the obvious contradiction in that statement? you want realism, go to Iraq and be done with it. it's a game controlled by a game-engine. it can only do so much, you should learn to play in a virtual world instead of trying to project your warped idea of a virtual war onto a video game"-(QUOTE-"Earth-shitizen"...)
As far as I see, stated in my opinion up there, I didn't mention the word "hate" anywhere, and to add your contradiction to my statement couldn't be more vague... What I was implying (you karkand whore you) was that I won't involve myself with any winning side that grabs up all the armor and proceeds to rape the kills rather than fighting for them, ANYONE can grab a tank and camp an alley with seemingly unlimited ammo to spam bullets for kills...
All I'm sayin is there are folks out there whos sole purpose is to "Have the most" of everything, and instead if using the armor to CAPTURE FLAGS (I type that in caps as I feel THAT IT IS THE POINT OF THE GAME...TO CAP FLAGS) they sit back and rape uncappable bases....thats what I said.
And as far as MY OPINIONS on realistic games goes....Leave it to some simpleton like yourself that can't even "remotely" type a "decently" structured post, to flame me for my opinions on realism... That makes alot of sense... Your intentions with your post were obviously geared towards an arguement rather than a topic of discussion.
Do you notice how I flamed your for something insignificant, like your ettiquette?I could give a rats ass how you type in some forum, just like you shouldn't give a rats ass of my opinion. Do you see how it was pointless? What will it prove? Only that it is completely pointless to egg on people in a negative way with the intentions of an arguement. I know this isn't a forum on proper english, just like you know it was childish to post the way you did.
I know and understand that this game is in fact far from reality in most aspects, one of the major ones being when you die, you don't come back. But as far as the shooting goes, and what I think the developer was thinking of when the game was being created, was what you see in the intro to the game, people working as teams to capture flags...
I don't know what intro you got with your game dude, but I know mine didn't come with a clip of some noob sitting at an alley chokepoint with a tank shooting people that just spawn in....and I think the reason they left this out is because it may have curbed the sales of this game down a little...
What do you think? Is that the highlight of your game? Padding your kills by shooting spawners? pffft.
I like to co-ordinate an assault to take a flag with my squadies so I can say- "Dam! "WE" fooked them guys up!"
Not-Rape a bunch of people at theyre last base/uncap and say-"Dam! "I" noobed the fook outta those guys!!!!! 30-1 in a tank at theyre spawn!!!! WOOT!" "Ya, "I" did SUCH a great job HOGGING all the kills from the rest of my team...."
And its even worse when the last guy on your side can be found to be a sniper at the enemies un/cap in a tank with no flags.... Now THAT is good gameplay!!!! < < Sarcasm level: |--------------|--|
(The below is a quote from "NOT")
"Yeah, going prone isn't a big deal. Everyone that's worth a damn does it to improve accuracy. But spamming prone so you're diving all over the place just isn't what was meant to be done. Does that change anything? Of course not. If it's available people will do it, on the other hand that doesn't make it realistic or really any fun. Sure you might be able to "own" people if you get good at it, but in the OP of this topic, the guy went on to complain about being killed by a pump shotgun. Give me a break, this guy dives all over like a power ranger and then whines about a gun that was being used as intended by the game design after he got done exploiting a poorly coded feature? Get real.
IMHO, leave that kind of crap to the Counterstrike kids. Of course you don't have to, but the truly good BF2 players will look at you like a retard. If diving around the map like an animal is the only way you can kill people, ok. Just don't go writing home to your family about how "1337zor j00 pwn n00bz".
Anyone can do it, but the skilled portions of the community choose not to. There it is.
EDIT:
I forgot to mention, for all the people that argue "It's a virtual game get used to it it's not supposed to be realistic." Please remember that BF2 is often touted as a 'realistic war simulation', and in return, will draw gamers who are looking for that, not BF2Counterstrike. So yes, tactics like this will quickly piss off players who bought the game to escape the bunnyhoppers from other popular first person shooters. You have to treat BF2 a little differently from any other shooter because it's really not designed to be a button mashing "Blow everything up in record time" style game, though it often turns into that thanks to players like the one described in the OP."-QUOTE-"NOT"
I was trying to give you Karma for that, but I havent posted enough posts BUT +1 to you ANYWAYS!!!
It is relevant to my opinion on what the developers had in mind as far as the warfare with this game goes...REALISM, but with GAMING ASPECTS...
LIKE: Un-limited lives
Flags
Un-lim ammo....etc...
The developers have a vision of how they want the game to be played, unfortuneatly, people always look for ways to either cheat the system in some way, or use some advantage against the opponent.
Bunny-whoring, Dipshit-Diving and Noob-raping are, (as stated above) NOT the intentions of what the develpors idea of gameplay was meant to be.
For gods sake, we are talking about people who set theyre keys up to do five things in one... for an advantage, nothing more nothing less, just like raping...
you want realism? you hate people who take vehicles for kills and not capturing flags? do you not see the obvious contradiction in that statement? you want realism, go to Iraq and be done with it. it's a game controlled by a game-engine. it can only do so much, you should learn to play in a virtual world instead of trying to project your warped idea of a virtual war onto a video game"-(QUOTE-"Earth-shitizen"...)
As far as I see, stated in my opinion up there, I didn't mention the word "hate" anywhere, and to add your contradiction to my statement couldn't be more vague... What I was implying (you karkand whore you) was that I won't involve myself with any winning side that grabs up all the armor and proceeds to rape the kills rather than fighting for them, ANYONE can grab a tank and camp an alley with seemingly unlimited ammo to spam bullets for kills...
All I'm sayin is there are folks out there whos sole purpose is to "Have the most" of everything, and instead if using the armor to CAPTURE FLAGS (I type that in caps as I feel THAT IT IS THE POINT OF THE GAME...TO CAP FLAGS) they sit back and rape uncappable bases....thats what I said.
And as far as MY OPINIONS on realistic games goes....Leave it to some simpleton like yourself that can't even "remotely" type a "decently" structured post, to flame me for my opinions on realism... That makes alot of sense... Your intentions with your post were obviously geared towards an arguement rather than a topic of discussion.
Do you notice how I flamed your for something insignificant, like your ettiquette?I could give a rats ass how you type in some forum, just like you shouldn't give a rats ass of my opinion. Do you see how it was pointless? What will it prove? Only that it is completely pointless to egg on people in a negative way with the intentions of an arguement. I know this isn't a forum on proper english, just like you know it was childish to post the way you did.
I know and understand that this game is in fact far from reality in most aspects, one of the major ones being when you die, you don't come back. But as far as the shooting goes, and what I think the developer was thinking of when the game was being created, was what you see in the intro to the game, people working as teams to capture flags...
I don't know what intro you got with your game dude, but I know mine didn't come with a clip of some noob sitting at an alley chokepoint with a tank shooting people that just spawn in....and I think the reason they left this out is because it may have curbed the sales of this game down a little...
What do you think? Is that the highlight of your game? Padding your kills by shooting spawners? pffft.
I like to co-ordinate an assault to take a flag with my squadies so I can say- "Dam! "WE" fooked them guys up!"
Not-Rape a bunch of people at theyre last base/uncap and say-"Dam! "I" noobed the fook outta those guys!!!!! 30-1 in a tank at theyre spawn!!!! WOOT!" "Ya, "I" did SUCH a great job HOGGING all the kills from the rest of my team...."
And its even worse when the last guy on your side can be found to be a sniper at the enemies un/cap in a tank with no flags.... Now THAT is good gameplay!!!! < < Sarcasm level: |--------------|--|
(The below is a quote from "NOT")
"Yeah, going prone isn't a big deal. Everyone that's worth a damn does it to improve accuracy. But spamming prone so you're diving all over the place just isn't what was meant to be done. Does that change anything? Of course not. If it's available people will do it, on the other hand that doesn't make it realistic or really any fun. Sure you might be able to "own" people if you get good at it, but in the OP of this topic, the guy went on to complain about being killed by a pump shotgun. Give me a break, this guy dives all over like a power ranger and then whines about a gun that was being used as intended by the game design after he got done exploiting a poorly coded feature? Get real.
IMHO, leave that kind of crap to the Counterstrike kids. Of course you don't have to, but the truly good BF2 players will look at you like a retard. If diving around the map like an animal is the only way you can kill people, ok. Just don't go writing home to your family about how "1337zor j00 pwn n00bz".
Anyone can do it, but the skilled portions of the community choose not to. There it is.
EDIT:
I forgot to mention, for all the people that argue "It's a virtual game get used to it it's not supposed to be realistic." Please remember that BF2 is often touted as a 'realistic war simulation', and in return, will draw gamers who are looking for that, not BF2Counterstrike. So yes, tactics like this will quickly piss off players who bought the game to escape the bunnyhoppers from other popular first person shooters. You have to treat BF2 a little differently from any other shooter because it's really not designed to be a button mashing "Blow everything up in record time" style game, though it often turns into that thanks to players like the one described in the OP."-QUOTE-"NOT"
I was trying to give you Karma for that, but I havent posted enough posts BUT +1 to you ANYWAYS!!!
It is relevant to my opinion on what the developers had in mind as far as the warfare with this game goes...REALISM, but with GAMING ASPECTS...
LIKE: Un-limited lives
Flags
Un-lim ammo....etc...
The developers have a vision of how they want the game to be played, unfortuneatly, people always look for ways to either cheat the system in some way, or use some advantage against the opponent.
Bunny-whoring, Dipshit-Diving and Noob-raping are, (as stated above) NOT the intentions of what the develpors idea of gameplay was meant to be.
For gods sake, we are talking about people who set theyre keys up to do five things in one... for an advantage, nothing more nothing less, just like raping...
Yep, I got four in one heap, 3 for special forces and 1 for reg.
(ty for the Karma whoever!)
(ty for the Karma whoever!)
Prone spamming is possible, along with dolphin diving...
Prone Spamming is actually a good technique if you can get it right, like, instead of just popping UP and DOWN behind a box, you can pop out left and/or right, possibly throwing a sniper off a little.
Dolphin-Diving....There wouldnt be a problem if people werent jumping all over the place and lately you don't see many that do (: I play S/F, but only because you can't homo-hop in S/F Like haviong the ability to jump over a sandbag and land prone to avoid fire...thats plausible, if after you empty your clip all you do is dive around without getting back you your feet, your just abusing an exploit is all... and we all know what we'll hear next and, in a much whinier voice I bet....
"Well (snivvle) if they put it in the game, its ok to (snivvle) do."
"I paid for this game, I'll do what i want!"
I'm glad they did away with jumping and shooting, all it led to was everyone in every server jumping around like fools, and i for one am glad to see that it changed to a less "bouncy" kinda game...
I can't wait until people put this into the title of theyre games...
"The most realistic depiction of modern day warfare to date!"
Then maybe we could call it a "war-simulator"
I like to play games for theyre realism, and I like this one when its played straight up, people using boxes for cover, a tank that actually watches the mini-map and moves forward with his infantry to provide cover for infantry to take flags and so on...
But we're left with stat whores, people who take vehicles just for the sake of getting kills rather than taking flags, snipers that create squads on theyre own and lock them, Comanders fighting in armor, taking kills the infantry should be getting, people raping main spawn points for kills, not defence, people that are all working for an explosives badge, and instead of choosing a weapon to fight close quarters, they'll just spam clays all over while running around with a sniper rifle they're not going to use.
Karkand by far is the worst and I wont play it anymore, now US captures all the back flags, take the armor so X2 for tank and BTR, then trap MEC at HOTEL with all armor, kill everything before it moves....
No, no thaks, I wont be a part of that anymore, its not even fun being on the winning (or should I say padding/raping) team, actually its more of who can shoot the guy first, not who gets shot first, and that seems like a waste of time, seems like your JUST playing for #'s and not the fun in it all.
Prone Spamming is actually a good technique if you can get it right, like, instead of just popping UP and DOWN behind a box, you can pop out left and/or right, possibly throwing a sniper off a little.
Dolphin-Diving....There wouldnt be a problem if people werent jumping all over the place and lately you don't see many that do (: I play S/F, but only because you can't homo-hop in S/F Like haviong the ability to jump over a sandbag and land prone to avoid fire...thats plausible, if after you empty your clip all you do is dive around without getting back you your feet, your just abusing an exploit is all... and we all know what we'll hear next and, in a much whinier voice I bet....
"Well (snivvle) if they put it in the game, its ok to (snivvle) do."
"I paid for this game, I'll do what i want!"
I'm glad they did away with jumping and shooting, all it led to was everyone in every server jumping around like fools, and i for one am glad to see that it changed to a less "bouncy" kinda game...
I can't wait until people put this into the title of theyre games...
"The most realistic depiction of modern day warfare to date!"
Then maybe we could call it a "war-simulator"
I like to play games for theyre realism, and I like this one when its played straight up, people using boxes for cover, a tank that actually watches the mini-map and moves forward with his infantry to provide cover for infantry to take flags and so on...
But we're left with stat whores, people who take vehicles just for the sake of getting kills rather than taking flags, snipers that create squads on theyre own and lock them, Comanders fighting in armor, taking kills the infantry should be getting, people raping main spawn points for kills, not defence, people that are all working for an explosives badge, and instead of choosing a weapon to fight close quarters, they'll just spam clays all over while running around with a sniper rifle they're not going to use.
Karkand by far is the worst and I wont play it anymore, now US captures all the back flags, take the armor so X2 for tank and BTR, then trap MEC at HOTEL with all armor, kill everything before it moves....
No, no thaks, I wont be a part of that anymore, its not even fun being on the winning (or should I say padding/raping) team, actually its more of who can shoot the guy first, not who gets shot first, and that seems like a waste of time, seems like your JUST playing for #'s and not the fun in it all.
go back to page ten and read my post, it got missed as it was the last post on the page, some things they are adding, are only adding more possibilities of exploit....
To add, that makes sense with the badges, it makes alot of sense. Quite rediculous some of those numbers....
After going through all 10 pages I've come to this:
Squad-swap-
Pro: It pushes the issue of the squadleader being more important, making him/her be more careful in theyre actions, thus resulting in a more gratifying teamwork based round.
Con: If your playing with friends, you will not be able to spread squad times out during rounds effectively...
Con: The squad leader will end up being more like a comander in that he is elected at the start of the round, the only problem with this is, there is no election other than who loads in the fastest, giving the fast loaders first pick on squads.
Con: There are people that create one-man squads,and they lock them up right at the start of the game to go and snipe and ask for supply drops and such.
Con: I have been in many rounds where there was not an "acceptible" squad to join becuase the current squads available were all attacking the wrong flags at the wrong times, hanging out to be struck by arty wondering where to go next...etc...etc... You need to use the "slow folk" to move around sometimes just to get things done, without being able to hop squads your kinda screwed if your one of the few that know whats goin on...
Conclusion: Though it radiates teamplay from the idea, evryone will want to be a leader, leaving the rounds to consist of a bunch of one, or two-man squads, and, if an ample skilled Clan of 4-5 comes in on the opposing team, your fooked to say the least.
Clan up and get on TS or vent folks!!!
And make sure you have plenty of RAM to get loaded in the fastest to grab up that squad-leader position!!
I would have LOVED to have read this in theyre patch fix...
"The long awaited tag bug issue has been addressed, no longer will BRAND NEW players CONSISTANTLY KILL you or your teammates because they have NO CLUE what in the hell a tag glitch is....we're sorry for this MINOR inconveniance"
Dropping vehicles has its pros/cons, and though they've all been covered, I will add my 2 cents anyways...
Great concept, nice if your AT in a tank and another tank forces you out of yours and you take the enemy tank out and have no transport.... or like that dude said about your chopper bout to esplode, your squad hits the water only to hear the leader say "Friendly boat needed!!"
And of course... the con... OOOHHH I just wasted a perfectly good vehicle on one idiotic useless sniper out in the boonies by dropping the friggen thing on his head!!! Now, when a squad leader REALLY NEEDS that humvee drop, THAT ASSHOLE comander is gonna say "Negative on your much needed vehicle, I'm a fucktard, over."
Great....people are cheating in this game with the comander hacks and all, now we're gonna have a billion trucks everywhere...
All I see is lag out of all this....I don't want to see some big ass cargo plane come drop a frikken hummer and lag my shit up....wtf...
They keep patching and patching... when does it stop? I mean i understand the need to upgrade...but these upgrades are kinda weak....
WHY...OH WHY...can I NOT jump out of a ground floor window in the paalace at Warlord.....
and yet, there is not ONE window in regular BF2 like the ones in Warlord....
Wich in turn brings me to the bunnyhopping patch fix.....
I just got here and will NOT I repeat, WILL NOT search endlessly through these forums for bunnyhopping threads as I assume there are hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of paragraphs...
Alongside not being able to shoot while in the air... why not just limit the players sprint more affectively...
SO: Each time you jump it takes a certain portion off of the meter, lets say 1/3...
This A: Forces the player to conserve his/her sprint,
B: Keeps idiots from jumping all over the place by not letting them jump when no sprint is left.
And don't reply with "That would suck because I can't control my game enough to jump onto/off of certain objects...
I almost always have half my sprint full and watch it rather closely as I am not a bunnyhopper, instead of jumping like mad when you run out of ammo, you actually have ebough sprint left to get away to reload and not have to resort to the pistol in the case your clip is emptied in your primary whilst many enmeies are around you...
Squad-swap-
Pro: It pushes the issue of the squadleader being more important, making him/her be more careful in theyre actions, thus resulting in a more gratifying teamwork based round.
Con: If your playing with friends, you will not be able to spread squad times out during rounds effectively...
Con: The squad leader will end up being more like a comander in that he is elected at the start of the round, the only problem with this is, there is no election other than who loads in the fastest, giving the fast loaders first pick on squads.
Con: There are people that create one-man squads,and they lock them up right at the start of the game to go and snipe and ask for supply drops and such.
Con: I have been in many rounds where there was not an "acceptible" squad to join becuase the current squads available were all attacking the wrong flags at the wrong times, hanging out to be struck by arty wondering where to go next...etc...etc... You need to use the "slow folk" to move around sometimes just to get things done, without being able to hop squads your kinda screwed if your one of the few that know whats goin on...
Conclusion: Though it radiates teamplay from the idea, evryone will want to be a leader, leaving the rounds to consist of a bunch of one, or two-man squads, and, if an ample skilled Clan of 4-5 comes in on the opposing team, your fooked to say the least.
Clan up and get on TS or vent folks!!!
And make sure you have plenty of RAM to get loaded in the fastest to grab up that squad-leader position!!
I would have LOVED to have read this in theyre patch fix...
"The long awaited tag bug issue has been addressed, no longer will BRAND NEW players CONSISTANTLY KILL you or your teammates because they have NO CLUE what in the hell a tag glitch is....we're sorry for this MINOR inconveniance"
Dropping vehicles has its pros/cons, and though they've all been covered, I will add my 2 cents anyways...
Great concept, nice if your AT in a tank and another tank forces you out of yours and you take the enemy tank out and have no transport.... or like that dude said about your chopper bout to esplode, your squad hits the water only to hear the leader say "Friendly boat needed!!"
And of course... the con... OOOHHH I just wasted a perfectly good vehicle on one idiotic useless sniper out in the boonies by dropping the friggen thing on his head!!! Now, when a squad leader REALLY NEEDS that humvee drop, THAT ASSHOLE comander is gonna say "Negative on your much needed vehicle, I'm a fucktard, over."
Great....people are cheating in this game with the comander hacks and all, now we're gonna have a billion trucks everywhere...
All I see is lag out of all this....I don't want to see some big ass cargo plane come drop a frikken hummer and lag my shit up....wtf...
They keep patching and patching... when does it stop? I mean i understand the need to upgrade...but these upgrades are kinda weak....
WHY...OH WHY...can I NOT jump out of a ground floor window in the paalace at Warlord.....
and yet, there is not ONE window in regular BF2 like the ones in Warlord....
Wich in turn brings me to the bunnyhopping patch fix.....
I just got here and will NOT I repeat, WILL NOT search endlessly through these forums for bunnyhopping threads as I assume there are hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of paragraphs...
Alongside not being able to shoot while in the air... why not just limit the players sprint more affectively...
SO: Each time you jump it takes a certain portion off of the meter, lets say 1/3...
This A: Forces the player to conserve his/her sprint,
B: Keeps idiots from jumping all over the place by not letting them jump when no sprint is left.
And don't reply with "That would suck because I can't control my game enough to jump onto/off of certain objects...
I almost always have half my sprint full and watch it rather closely as I am not a bunnyhopper, instead of jumping like mad when you run out of ammo, you actually have ebough sprint left to get away to reload and not have to resort to the pistol in the case your clip is emptied in your primary whilst many enmeies are around you...