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I'm idling on the server right now...

...amusingly enough, I found this:

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

<snip> + whenever I tried to play 2142, I get some retarded PB error.

Manually update PB.

...was on the server the other day. Yeah, I've been gone forever. Started playing 2142 again, now...doubt I'll ever be playing BF2 again, the game just bores me now, sadly. Then again, I said that about 2142 about a month ago. So. Uh. Yeah.

But when I was on the server, gvers was idlin'. So I got in my big shiny walker and walked over to do some "shoot around his head" stuff.

Strangely, the walker decided to dance a little jig whenever I stopped. Walkin' on the spot. I've never seen that before, but it looked most amusing on the external view...

Anyway, I'll be on tonight if there's people on and all.

I think engineer works well on Titan on the ground because people are on the lookout more for buggies/tanks/apcs... so they don't spot infantry as fast. Which allows the SMG to be brought into a close enough range to get the kill, whereas on Conquest maps, in close-quarters fighting, you constantly expect infantry to be round the next corner...

Which might be because they almost always are, in my experience, heh.

Anyway, I hate assault in this game - I can't quite seem to get the hang of the assualt rifles and I'm not really sure why.

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^*AlphA*^ wrote:

whats your ingame name ?

I'm so good at this game that my own awesomeness has eclipsed itself, and nobody but me can see it.

(Har. You're all better than I am. )

I die.

Ahhh, so that's why when I was commanding a few days/a little while ago the Titan refused to move no matter where I clicked. I was somewhat annoyed, since it didn't tell me it wasn't moveable, just that that location was bad. It'd be nice to know in-game at least, so you don't waste valuable time clicking to move.

SEREMAKER wrote:

whats the point of the download on the 1st then ???????????

The point is, it means that a certain percentage will buy it before the current build has even been played. Net result: guaranteed sales without dropoff because people whinge publically immediately after release. Can't get a refund if you've downloaded it! (Unless you're lucky enough to live somewhere where you can return a product within 14/28 days. )

GR34 wrote:

there has to be some sort of HAX to get it to play bedfor the date

No, there's no point. Couldn't play ranked, since your account would be -highly- visible; and if you can't play it ranked, nobody is going to bother to even try. Would just entail a bunch of accounts getting reset/blocked.

corce wrote:

I've logged about 100 hours

Uhh, too short? How many games do you usually get 100hrs+ from? I can only think of two I've got that length of playtime out of before getting bored - Morrowind and Oblivion.

I'll be dying on the server at some stage tonight, probably...

EnemyOfAllkind wrote:

Same thing has happened to me in BF2 lately... I have been in an armor and some poor corporal/sergeant starts shooting me with an assault rifle ?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!!!!

That's nothing, I've chased tanks with a combat knife.

You all /fail for not noticing that this was clearly a stupid idea by intent.

Heh.

Sl4y3r wrote:

You are evil indeed Request accepted Auqakuh...

Wootage.

Doperwt. wrote:

ok and you need te get rid of the stuff you are smoking. it is making you talk weird. That is bad shit

Hell no. If I did that, you might see how -actually- weird I am.

Somewhat off-topic, but thank you all in advance for providing me career points on Titan when Commanding, since my UAVs = spot you, team = kills you, me = more career points. Yayness.

Also, while I'm here...

Is it less laggy on the Titan these days? I haven't tried for fear of corrupting my KD ratio with the Bianchi, which I'm enjoying atm.

Linus wrote:

so for 2 years people complain about not having a buddy list... and then 2142 comes out with
this buddy list ??  You cant even tell what or where your buddy is playing.. Would it be so hard
for EA to do what every other FPS on the market has done which is an actual REAL buddy list ?
Not some half ass pathetic excuse for one ??

EA are some of the biggest retards I have ever seen in the gaming market...Strike that, THEY ARE
the biggest retards.  Patches that require their own patches.. No buddy lists on a 2006/7 game title..
punkbuster is a useless sham...hacks that came out 2 weeks after BF2 was released still work to
this day...  The longest load times *bf2 out of any game Ive ever seen in 25 years..

Even when EA attempts to give the players what they want they muck it up...  IO mode for example
in BF2..   EAs answer to that problem was to simply delete EVERY vehicle on the map.. making
some maps like Wake Island nearly pathetic if desired IO..   Theyre not capable of real solutions..
The jeeps werent the problem, retard EA, people were complaining about the air kiddies and tank
whores.. but again, EA's solution is to put a band aid on broken arms.. 

pathetic excuse for a gaming publisher, and the worst programmers on the planet.

and forget about support...thats a laughing joke..

Right.

Electronic Arts... is the publisher.

That means they publish the game. IE, they mass-"print" the DVDs. They make the covers. They commission the cover art. They market it. They sell it to retailers. Etc, etc.

DICE are the software house. They actually made the game.

PunkBuster is responsible for protecting against hacks, etc.

The community is responsible for reporting hacks to PunkBuster. (That's "REPORTING". Not "Joining MSX site and downloading hacks to get l33t headshots.)

GameSpy/IGN, at the contract of EA, run the stats database, collate the stats, regurgitate the stats for stats sites / the in-game BFHQ.

EA/DICE/GameSpy-IGN/PunkBuster have ALL been EXTREMELY responsive to the community. You whinged about the Blackhawk - they nerfed the Blackhawk. You whinged about the grenade launcher - they nerfed the grenade launcher. You whinged about 23920392039203293029320392 other fucking things - they fixed them. They worked hard, and they created a finished product, eventually. You clearly understand not a single thing about the games industry. Some software houses, under pressure to perform, will produce a finished product seemingly every time. They are talented, they are leaders in their industry.

Do you expect -any- composer to produce music of a quality of, say, Tchaikovsky? Perhaps you didn't like him - what about Mozart? Beethoven? Can any composer attain that level of genius?

No, they cannot. So you clearly cannot expect a low-rated athlete to win Olympic Gold twice; nor can you expect every software house and every game developed to be utterly perfect in every way, in such a way as does not offend the sensibilities of every nitwit with a keyboard and mouse.

You don't like it? Don't play it. You want to blame EA? Don't play their games. Don't spend your money on it, don't waste your time whinging about it when -your- side of the community hasn't stopped whinging since Day One and has gotten pretty much everything it asked for.

"Air kiddies and tank whores" - what? So you bought a game that has tanks in it. You can see it has tanks in it because IT HAS TANKS IN IT. You can also see it has aircraft in it, it was in the trailer. And no doubt in screenshots on the back, but I can't recall right now. All of this was known to you. You were not told there were no tanks. There was no rule that said you could kill others and never die.

Fine, you like infantry. Other people like killing infantry from the comfort of their J10. Others like to do it in an Abrahms. Still others like to do it in a nice shiny attack helicopter.

Well, guess what?

THAT IS THE POINT OF THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.

It is "Battlefield ????/*". Not "Infantry Roolz W00t Bunny Hopping Is L33t But Teh Tanks Suck".

That implies a -Battlefield-. Not one small corner of it. The ENTIRE BATTLEFIELD.

Comprehend? Understand?

Good. Go and make sure you know what a game is about before you buy it next time.

BUT WAIT!

-IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS-

What? Seriously. No. NO. You, clearly, did not have a Commodore 64 with a tape deck. FOUR HOURS. And the game crashed! FOUR HOURS. That's a long load time.

Kthnxdonenow.

Fixed some dreadful typos. Good grief. If anyone can think of anything to add, please tell me. I'd be happy to add your stuff into the first post - especially things relating to the later patches, since most of this was written -quite- some time ago.

I would be glad to fight for the Evils if needed, since I am naturally incredibly evil. So evil that the event horizon of my evilness obscures my evil so thoroughly that I appear to be somewhat un-evil, lending me a cloak of evilness at which many desp...

Eh. You get the idea. I'll be there. With a working mic, hopefully, even if I have to beg/borrow/steal. :p

I plan on unlocking the Engineer/Support trees completely. Well, except the HMG. Can't see the point. Tried it on all-unlocks weekend - bleh. Seemed pretty pansified in comparison to the Bianchi.

("Pansified" is a technical term used by machine gunners. Honest. True story.)

Avantek wrote:

Gunship is a very good weapon as long as there are no AA EMP whorers on the map... And yeah any noob can fly them takes no skill to fly it but it takes skill to get a lot of kills with it without dieing.

AA EMP whorers? Omg teh AA EMP glitcherz hax noobz.

This is the idea.

Augment the kick vote with something called a "Euthanise Vote".

Here's how it works.

Bobby The Brigadier General Statpadder is, as his name suggests, stats-padding with some buddies. There are no admins around. Both teams have noticed, but since they're doing it close to their uncap flag, they can't go kill them without advancing that far. Their own teammates are also equally pissed, because they can't advance with a full squad missing in action.

So Vigi the Lante Private initiates a "Kick-Vote", and everybody votes "Yes".

But wait! No they don't! Because despite whinging, they don't really care enough to risk being shot by a sniper while hitting page-up.

So 5 out of the 9 needed vote. That's a certain percentage set by admins to trigger a downgrade from kick vote to euthanise vote. Immediately, those designated for the vote become visible, in shocking pink, on everyone's minimap. They can be killed by anyone - even their own teammates - so long as the killer is a medic.

In-Character, they're considered "gone mad", and for every minute they stay, they get taunted by the guy who did the voice-over for BF2, who was so incredibly annoying that they're sure to leave soon anyway!

Well?

>.>

I think it's a good sign if you get a mutiny vote late in the round because your team has so many points that sad little people want to become commander for the 2x bonus.

I spot, place UAVs, repair, occasionally go out to cap a flag if in Titan mode (can grab a flag, nick an apc and be back on the Titan in time for cakes in the officer's mess). But most people seem to fail to drop supply crates or spot anything but snipers.

Spotting = loud and annoying but good. GOOD.

Support.

As you could've guessed.

Bianchi > all. Even Voss, so long as I react with reflexes faster than a blind, deaf, dead badger. Of course, there's no guarantee...

I don't nade spam, though. What's the point? Takes too much effort to waste all those grenades, and I've been killed by too many -teammates- nade spamming when they could be placing their shots more carefully, or providing covering fire so we can advance.

sfarrar33 wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

If You Are Dying Repeatedly In Conquest Mode...
<snip>

ah not always true, it can be a wonderful distraction to take an enemy flag at a far away position and then when a handful of people go for that flag simply cap the one they left
Also whilst people traverse to that position you can find yourself a hidding spot and fire away at those cappers,
unless its a tank map and you have no RDX or are not an engy then get in a vehicle and run for the hills

Ah, very true yes. I thought of that while I was writing, but figured it was obvious that making rushes for flags in vehicles is still important. I meant specifically -on foot- advancement, not say, in a battlewalker, a tank, or a buggy jeepy thingy...

Although the latter earn me juicy multiple kills with wonderous regularity.

Elamdri wrote:

Actually, as more countries develope nukes, the farther we get from nuclear war. Nuclear war is expounded by fewer states having nukes, not more.

I don't think so. I suspect there is a "tipping point", where stability decreases on either side. Simplifying the matter to more = more stable, less = less stable is just that - simplifying. If all states have nuclear arms, nuclear warfare risks becoming conventional. If no states have nuclear arms, only economic superpowers / those with large volumes of extremely valuable resources can act as stabilising forces. There are pros and cons to both sides, but having no nuclear weapons whatsoever runs the risk that someone else develops them and we're back at square one.

Therefore, an equal spread of responsibility would provide, in theory at least, greatest stability. Any nuclear power would thus have other nuclear powers to fear, while non-nuclear powers would have to fear -all- the nuclear powers. This would eventually lead to, at the least, uneasy peace between the world's most powerful states... which is what we have currently. Moving in either direction without first creating greater stability (without the use of nuclear threat) would appear to be unwise, IMHO - too much margin for error, too many unstable variables.

Further, on a subject that popped up-

The Geneva Convention...

Part 1, Article 3 wrote:

Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:



(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture; <---

...doesn't that rule out the use of nuclear weapons except in tactical form?

Elamdri wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

Belx wrote:

It is terrorism.

But since when is terrorism not effective?

"Terrorist" is just what the big army calls the little army.

...I guess that would work...if they had an army.

And what is an army? A group of armed, organised individuals providing and provided with training to create warfighting skills.

So any terrorist group with training camps... has an army. Eta, for example, has a political wing and a military wing. The military wing is the Eta army.

Since almost all national militaries have engaged, attacked, maimed, murdered, raped, slaughtered, and otherwise brutalised civilians either in recent history or fairly recent history... there's no real way to distinguish, unless you say that national armies are somehow more -official- - but official to who? According to the terrorists, the British/US Armies are both terrorist groups, but with a mandate from governments.

But what, when you boil it down, is the real, technical difference? There isn't one. The differences are purely ethical/legal - and in some cases the ethical differences are questionable. Purely as an example, in an all-out war, I do not doubt that our soldiers (at least some) would be prepared to undertake suicide missions in order that "our" side wins.

Terrorism is the use of force against civilians in order to create a state of fear in order to advance a political gain.

You mean like the bombing campaign Clinton carried out in Bosnia?

ProRacerNorm wrote:

Nuke everybody who is our enemy

Since this is a serious discussion, I'll take that seriously.

Pros? Cons? What is your line of reasoning?

I can only see one good reason for a knife/pistol server: venting, in a battlewalker. Not that I, the honourable Auqakuh2213, would ever do such a thing.

No, no, not me.

Belx wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

...its basically reverse terrorism.

It is terrorism.

But since when is terrorism not effective?

"Terrorist" is just what the big army calls the little army.

1. Ping.
2. Ping.
3. Ping.

I died too much tonight. I'm going to blame... *thinks*

Oh yes. NooBesT. Since it was you who kept killing me, when I was on the other team towards the end.

sfarrar33 wrote:

fatherted13 wrote:

just not my cup o tea

*shakes head* poor very poor

are there any tea drinking non-brits out there?
or has the topic of tea just driven away all the yanks and aussies

Heh. I think the harping about tea scared everyone away. Still, tea is quite good - although it gives me indigestion, which is why I don't drink it often. Otherwise I'd probably be a teaholic.

-Updated. Added a little section on Conquest mode. To be expanded when I have more time.-

Echo wrote:

Who wants to help me get the 2142 server started in about an hour? (1900 cet)

I will.

HellGuard99 wrote:

I think that an account can be only attached 1 cd key
and I cant play my disc one so I purchased the downloaded version of EA Link
will my old account work w/ the EA link purchased one?

Yes.

jord wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

jord wrote:

If your'e going to invite people don't keep inviting the same ones.

It's really anoying.

I don't invite people,if they wanted to be in a squad they'd be in one by now is how i think.

How is it annoying? You either ignore the message (I often don't even notice it) or press "no". Since there are advantages to being in a squad, and it's down to the squadleader to populate that squad, I think inviting is rather important. If there are six squads with one squad member, how do you choose?

By who invites you. Thus, who is willing to actually do their job. An invite is probably a good sign, not a bad one.

And if there are several fairly full squads, the commander doesn't have to repeatedly shout in the team chat to squad up already. :p

Well i find it annoying and i know others do.

I like to see the floor infront of me for APM's and RDX without some big bold writing in my way.To get rid of it have to take my finger off the mouse to press page down,and as we all know,the mouse is how you turn/fire.

Hrm. Guess I'm the only one who mapped yes/no to "R" and "F". :p

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

Well, I played with some of you [BF2s] sorts last night, but not on the EU server. Had fun all the same. Commanded for you a while. Hope you enjoyed the preferential UAV/supply drops. >.>

Not really, you sucked. j/k

*cries*

Oh, wait. I had my "sensitivity" set too high.

Good game tonight, though it got awfully main-base rapey on Cerbere Landing after y'all had left. Still, the team I was on was a bit lacking in -letting- the other team do the above...

Thanks for all the points in the APC.

leetkyle wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

Also, it is illegal to download a full disc image of a game. It is not illegal to download a mini-image, but mini-images do not work for 2142 - well, they work for some, according to claims, but most can't get em to work (use Google and you'll see what I mean). The reason it is illegal to download a full disc image is because if you have the disc... you can make your own image. If you download a full disc image, you are technically getting a -second original- (which does not count as a protective backup), which you should have to pay for.

If you can prove to authorities you own a game, then it can be counted as just creating a backup. You are legally allowed to download any game with a CD key, as long as you BOUGHT the CD key. You are paying nothing for the box and a disk because some poor Taiwanese 3 year old baby is making them, and the CD-Key printed on the paper by some large fat guy who only eats burgers costs £24.99!

No. You are paying for a license - in this case, a license to use -1- (-one-) DVD copy of the game. A download of a full disc image is a -second- copy, as I said before. Since you already have -1- (-one-) DVD variety license, you can't use the second without buying the license for a second.

Legally speaking, making an image of a disc -you- have the license to use is not illegal, no. But only -your- disc - not anybody else's, and downloading an image from online = downloading someone else's disc image. They're breaking their license (and as such aren't actually even entitled to their own copy), and you're breaking the law by downloading it.

This is why forums do not allow discussion of downloading full disc images, or where to find them, or how to use them.

leetkyle wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

Conquest maps tend to be more intense than Titan ones.

Have ever been in a Titan before? lol.

Nope... far too much lag and the ground war is more important anyway - in the sense that most people think it isn't important and fight on the Titan. Someone has to cap silos, you know. :p

As I understand it, "warp" (that is, where you walk in one direction and end up ten feet in another, etc) is due to dropped packets, not latency.

Conquest maps tend to be more intense than Titan ones. 'Specially the 32-player sized maps.

jord wrote:

If your'e going to invite people don't keep inviting the same ones.

It's really anoying.

I don't invite people,if they wanted to be in a squad they'd be in one by now is how i think.

How is it annoying? You either ignore the message (I often don't even notice it) or press "no". Since there are advantages to being in a squad, and it's down to the squadleader to populate that squad, I think inviting is rather important. If there are six squads with one squad member, how do you choose?

By who invites you. Thus, who is willing to actually do their job. An invite is probably a good sign, not a bad one.

And if there are several fairly full squads, the commander doesn't have to repeatedly shout in the team chat to squad up already. :p

jord wrote:

No,infact i believe i could be the worst knifer ever.I don't think i've won a knife fight in BF2.

...I'm worse than you. Guaranteed. Or your money back!

Well, I played with some of you [BF2s] sorts last night, but not on the EU server. Had fun all the same. Commanded for you a while. Hope you enjoyed the preferential UAV/supply drops. >.>

<Editing snip>

On second thoughts, no, I'm not helping. I suspect you're lying because A) it is more expensive to buy the game again than just fix the current issue, B) when people want to illegally get a game they often say they already have it, just so someone will tell em how they can get it illegally.

Sorry. Fix your drivers/buy a new DVD drive. The end.

Also, it is illegal to download a full disc image of a game. It is not illegal to download a mini-image, but mini-images do not work for 2142 - well, they work for some, according to claims, but most can't get em to work (use Google and you'll see what I mean). The reason it is illegal to download a full disc image is because if you have the disc... you can make your own image. If you download a full disc image, you are technically getting a -second original- (which does not count as a protective backup), which you should have to pay for.

We-e-ell...

Might be quicker to -move- the current installation to the default location, patch, then move it back... if the patch isn't looking in the registry to find the game, then... that should work fine. No?

B-Scimitar wrote:

Auqakuh2213 wrote:

ifandbut wrote:

and why wont anyone join my squad when I make it?

I wish people who are squad leader would consistantly give orders. Do people not realise that you get BONUS POINTS for fighting where the order says to? What should I be nameing my squad to tell people I am giveing orders? I usaly name it TeamWork but maybe I should put OrdersHere?

Maybe I should just give in and join a clan,
Ifandbut

Just invite people, particularly people wearing clan tags. If the people you clicked don't join, shout "Squad up!" in the team talk, and then invite another bunch of people. Works most of the time for me.

Good hints but please stop inviting same people over and over again if they don't want to join.
IMO that's very annoying, especially if I already am in another squad.

I usually click on a -different- bunch of people, but juggling driving/inviting can make things confusing sometimes.

(Yes, I could stop driving, but an engineer could also shoot me.)

I'm currently without a mic. Mine has mysteriously gone "byebye". Tried to connect a little bit ago, but it just disconnected me and then refused to connect again. Mehish.

ifandbut wrote:

and why wont anyone join my squad when I make it?

I wish people who are squad leader would consistantly give orders. Do people not realise that you get BONUS POINTS for fighting where the order says to? What should I be nameing my squad to tell people I am giveing orders? I usaly name it TeamWork but maybe I should put OrdersHere?

Maybe I should just give in and join a clan,
Ifandbut

Just invite people, particularly people wearing clan tags. If the people you clicked don't join, shout "Squad up!" in the team talk, and then invite another bunch of people. Works most of the time for me.

Thanks, was just curious. Was wondering why some guy was sitting in the air in front of the Titan...

Just how the hell do you get a road kill with a Titan? My stats say I have a grand total of 1 road kill with a Titan.

...How? Anybody have any idea? (I'm sure it's something obvious, to be honest...)

madmurre wrote:

Bunnyhopping and sniping works pretty well in 2142 try to keep a distance of 80-130m and hop around while spotting enemies once your enemys stands still stop jumping and headshot. With the zoom you hardly ever miss a headshot on a static target.

It´s far easier to snipe in 2142 in my experience since you will score a headshot almost every single time, and as some mentioned above movement is often the key when you snipe not always though.

It's people like you who give me a positive kill-death ratio with the Bianchi.

Just you keep running and leaping all over the place, wasting your stamina...