Airwolf wrote:
Story taken from here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6904821.stm
and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … est127.xml
Having just turned 17 and gaining my provisional license, I have to say I am totally against this. I have been waiting for so long to drive at 17 when all my friends had their birthdays in June. I have mine in December an yet again the government (because it's the government) thwarts us.
The driving test is to be a 12 month course, hoping to reduce accidents and broaden new drivers' experience. I can live with that, in fact I'm all for it. It's the fact it's going to rise to 18 that really bothers me. 1 year. what difference exactly?
I know for some of you it's going to be very easy to say "oh it's 1 year, get over it" and also it's very easy to not be empathetic because most of you are over 18 and have your license. Sorry, it's the fact that I've spent a year smiling through people bragging about passing their test, and I was all excited to get my test done this year sometime.
If this goes forward, I dunno. I guess I'll have to wait.
no, no it isnt
everyone thinks it is
but it isnt
so dont worry
i just got my provisional
if this was true i wouldnt have
on the dvla website it says "WE ARE NOT ChANGING THE CURRENT AGE"
its all a rumour
Again, the few idiots spoiling it for the most of us who actually use cars for purposes other than street racing.
/Airwolf's first DST topic.
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you have to do the manual pb installation and updates...
delete the pb folder in bf2.
then install the manual thing form their website
update bf2 that way
pb B never works lol its stupid
delete the pb folder in bf2.
then install the manual thing form their website
update bf2 that way
pb B never works lol its stupid
i used to play on bf2 alot.
then kinda went away from it altogether
now i want to play again
but because i havent played in ages
my cd key is no longer held in the games' temp files
anyone remember where i re-enter it?
sounds like a really stupid question i know..but still lol answer ;p
then kinda went away from it altogether
now i want to play again
but because i havent played in ages
my cd key is no longer held in the games' temp files
anyone remember where i re-enter it?
sounds like a really stupid question i know..but still lol answer ;p
im english ..
explain?>
explain?>
when santa pops down my chimney and steals all of my mince pies and whisky?
;p
;p
im english
have no idea how american politics work
anyone wanna explain? like what the white building on capital hill or something about? is that like the houses of parliament in england?
have no idea how american politics work
anyone wanna explain? like what the white building on capital hill or something about? is that like the houses of parliament in england?
awesome
its being put to the commons today on vetoing the EU human rights act..the one that lets terrorists stay in the country...and all that crap..
hopefully they rip it up
also gordon brown says to fly your union flags high from now on =] obviously their law has been quashed about it being "racist" -- i remember telling a family next door to fuck off coz they said they were offended by my union flag hanging out my bedroom window...i told them that the pakistan flag hanging on their rear view mirror offended me...funnyily enough they didnt speak to me again
its being put to the commons today on vetoing the EU human rights act..the one that lets terrorists stay in the country...and all that crap..
hopefully they rip it up
also gordon brown says to fly your union flags high from now on =] obviously their law has been quashed about it being "racist" -- i remember telling a family next door to fuck off coz they said they were offended by my union flag hanging out my bedroom window...i told them that the pakistan flag hanging on their rear view mirror offended me...funnyily enough they didnt speak to me again
if you really want to know his name...zoom in on his ID...RECONDO67 wrote:
wtf do you have to be that specific cm-on can you also tell me the fucking type of materials and boiling points of the metals and please the last name of the officer holding itParker wrote:
this man is the only TRULY correct person in this thread.....k30dxedle wrote:
MP5A4 w/ flashlight foregrip and EOTech 55x holographic sight.
How many people agree with this?
Surely in todays society, with the morality of life and peoples everyday actions always questioned then, no matter what end can justify a destructive and murderous means that is against all international laws.
Surely in todays society, with the morality of life and peoples everyday actions always questioned then, no matter what end can justify a destructive and murderous means that is against all international laws.
the uk doesnt actually have a proper life term...there are recommendations by the judge which are never followed...if someones sentence says "LIFE" they are generally out in about 10 years...sucks .. uk legal system is shot reallyd4rkst4r wrote:
I would say Life Imprisonment would be the correct punishment for them. I say the government's no better killing terrorists. Let God judge them.
never said it was for terroristsParker wrote:
so, you would say that your experience with that rifle is limited?[bpuk]jack wrote:
military firing range named otmoor and at pembary sands (an artillery and bombing range)Parker wrote:
and how many times did you shoot that?
where did you shoot it?
are you in the military?
what range were your targets?
no i just have a few high ranking officers as friends
1500m - 2500m
would you also say that a .50 BMG round is *slightly* more powerful than your average rifle round?
if i read correctly, you suggested this as a punishment for terrorists.....or compared it to the saudis method of handling these things.
if that were to happen, it really wouldnt effect any terrorists.........there arent too many of them running around with .50s....and a 7.62 would be manageable.
said it was an example of eye for an eye for snipers
read properly before trying to have a go
hehe liking it =]link52787 wrote:
an eye for an eye.
for every soldier killed one of every terrorist should be tortured, forced to eat pork and then hung.
military firing range named otmoor and at pembary sands (an artillery and bombing range)Parker wrote:
and how many times did you shoot that?
where did you shoot it?
are you in the military?
what range were your targets?
no i just have a few high ranking officers as friends
1500m - 2500m
the AW-50Parker wrote:
wowee......gosh buddy, you shot a fifty caliber riflez!!1!!11!![bpuk]jack wrote:
have you shot a sniper rifle that is used in the military today?S.Lythberg wrote:
Soldiers in Iraq are losing entire limbs and returning to active duty with prosthetics. I wouldn't doubt that the vietcong would do it, but i doubt its effectiveness. Besides, all sniper rifiles come equipped with a bipod stand, so stability really isn't an issue.
i have.
it was a 50 cal round. with a specific grip. using the support given from teh entire hand
we were asked to try and shoot with a middle fingers...it didnt work..you could try but would break something.
i dont give a shit what you have shot, im telling you that i could shoot accurately from the prone position with my middle finger.
oh, and name that rifle......
right mate you think that
how do you mean?Parker wrote:
im sorry, you misinterpreted that....i knew you were from across the pond the way you talked about firearms....thats all.[bpuk]jack wrote:
yes i am. meaning we can have stuff published over here which is still for some reason against your import and publication laws. which is stupid tbh..the bill of rights kind of has holes in it really...loopholes surely for things to go through...britain has too manyParker wrote:
i have read A LOT of stuff about vietnam, and never heard anything about that......anyway, shooting a rifle effectively from a prone position wouldnt be hindered by a stump above your middle finger.....maybe for a few shots, but they would adapt.
edit: wait your from the UK arent you?
have you shot a sniper rifle that is used in the military today?S.Lythberg wrote:
Soldiers in Iraq are losing entire limbs and returning to active duty with prosthetics. I wouldn't doubt that the vietcong would do it, but i doubt its effectiveness. Besides, all sniper rifiles come equipped with a bipod stand, so stability really isn't an issue.Parker wrote:
i have read A LOT of stuff about vietnam, and never heard anything about that......anyway, shooting a rifle effectively from a prone position wouldnt be hindered by a stump above your middle finger.....maybe for a few shots, but they would adapt.[bpuk]jack wrote:
you cant shoot effectively using your middle finger when you ahve a stump above it. any movement that would not have affected the shot with your index finger now moves the rifle. As the hand rests on it.
it was done by the vietkong and unnoficially by the americans fighting in korea and vietnam
also the egyptians used it in the palestinian wars
i have.
it was a 50 cal round. with a specific grip. using the support given from teh entire hand
we were asked to try and shoot with a middle fingers...it didnt work..you could try but would break something.
yes i am. meaning we can have stuff published over here which is still for some reason against your import and publication laws. which is stupid tbh..the bill of rights kind of has holes in it really...loopholes surely for things to go through...britain has too manyParker wrote:
i have read A LOT of stuff about vietnam, and never heard anything about that......anyway, shooting a rifle effectively from a prone position wouldnt be hindered by a stump above your middle finger.....maybe for a few shots, but they would adapt.[bpuk]jack wrote:
you cant shoot effectively using your middle finger when you ahve a stump above it. any movement that would not have affected the shot with your index finger now moves the rifle. As the hand rests on it.Parker wrote:
when/where/who/what war?
and taking a trigger finger from a sniper wouldnt necessarily make him ineffective.
it was done by the vietkong and unnoficially by the americans fighting in korea and vietnam
also the egyptians used it in the palestinian wars
edit: wait your from the UK arent you?
yea thats trueS.Lythberg wrote:
But again, death does not faze a martyr, and it won't really satisfy many people.[bpuk]jack wrote:
mmm i get what you are sayingS.Lythberg wrote:
Most terrorists don't really mind death, and in the case of Islamic ones, they want to die as fast as possible, preferably at the hands of the infidel, to get into heaven (yeah right, how does blowing up a bus please god?) faster.
The only way to truly make then fear capture would be to torture them to death, and that is against everything the western world stands for.
Honestly, in the end it does not really matter what happens to the captured ones, its the ones we dont have that need to die.
but people have t othink of the peace of mind of the public and the way the governments have to seem strong against a terrorist threat. so scapegating could be the answer.
there are two types of people that dont deserve to live - paedophiles (including general rapists) and murderers (including terrorists)
rape ruins someones life and those around them
murder ends someones life and ruins those around them
Yeah, we've all heard the "closure" arguement, but putting a terrorist in a cell with a few texans for a few years would be much more effective in my opinion.
As for pedophiles/rapists, the Saudis have a punishment involving a sword that I find quite effective...
the dutch (i think? correct if wrong)
sterilize/castrate dependant on judges' decision pedos/rapists
a 5 foot long, full bore (now 50. cal) rifle supported on your shoulder and on the groundS.Lythberg wrote:
i can shoot with my middle finger too, it's not that hard.Parker wrote:
when/where/who/what war?[bpuk]jack wrote:
Or what used to happen to snipers - their trigger fingers were cut off so they became a useless body for the enemy.
and taking a trigger finger from a sniper wouldnt necessarily make him ineffective.
with the positioning of the triggerguard and stock on most military sniper rifles (especially the one used by the uk and germany at the moment made by the lee enfield company of britain) means that you cannot shoot effectively and with precision using anything but you index finger
you cant shoot effectively using your middle finger when you ahve a stump above it. any movement that would not have affected the shot with your index finger now moves the rifle. As the hand rests on it.Parker wrote:
when/where/who/what war?[bpuk]jack wrote:
Or what used to happen to snipers - their trigger fingers were cut off so they became a useless body for the enemy.
and taking a trigger finger from a sniper wouldnt necessarily make him ineffective.
it was done by the vietkong and unnoficially by the americans fighting in korea and vietnam
also the egyptians used it in the palestinian wars
mmm i get what you are sayingS.Lythberg wrote:
Most terrorists don't really mind death, and in the case of Islamic ones, they want to die as fast as possible, preferably at the hands of the infidel, to get into heaven (yeah right, how does blowing up a bus please god?) faster.[bpuk]jack wrote:
yes but it wouldnt be public, they wouldnt go they way they want, and they would be executed under the law of the country, which would be a christian government, so they couldnt even receive the Islamic rights.S.Lythberg wrote:
death penalty for someone who wanted to martyr themselves?
I like the old pigs blood soaked bullets the british used to use...
send 'em straight to hell!
The only way to truly make then fear capture would be to torture them to death, and that is against everything the western world stands for.
Honestly, in the end it does not really matter what happens to the captured ones, its the ones we dont have that need to die.
but people have t othink of the peace of mind of the public and the way the governments have to seem strong against a terrorist threat. so scapegating could be the answer.
there are two types of people that dont deserve to live - paedophiles (including general rapists) and murderers (including terrorists)
rape ruins someones life and those around them
murder ends someones life and ruins those around them
mosques shoul be monitored. anywhere citing hatred should be.
abu hamza would not have been able to signal the go ahead for kidnappings in iraw of american and british soldiers for beheading if it was not for the religious freedom laws in the UK. Finsbury park mosque would have raided saving lives.
abu hamza would not have been able to signal the go ahead for kidnappings in iraw of american and british soldiers for beheading if it was not for the religious freedom laws in the UK. Finsbury park mosque would have raided saving lives.
yes but it wouldnt be public, they wouldnt go they way they want, and they would be executed under the law of the country, which would be a christian government, so they couldnt even receive the Islamic rights.S.Lythberg wrote:
death penalty for someone who wanted to martyr themselves?
I like the old pigs blood soaked bullets the british used to use...
send 'em straight to hell!
What is the correct punishment for a terrorist activity? or terrorism occurence (IE it succeeding..9/11, 7/7)
I personally think this is a form of treason and should carry the death penalty, especially with the trouble we are getting in Britiain at the moment.
I personally think that you lose your citizenship and right to live if you take anothers' life, you have no right. The "Eye for an Eye" laws in SAudi Arabi work nicely.. You steal something, then your hand gets cut off. Or what used to happen to snipers - their trigger fingers were cut off so they became a useless body for the enemy.
Now I know full well the death penalty was revoked by the home secretary in the late 90's for treason, but events such as terrosism should make the public realise that these people will never be safe to release, they will always be a danger to the public.
And everytime one of the terrorists gets put under surveillance they flee the country!
from the IRA, to Al-Queda they have never been dealt with properly. The IRA terrorist who bombed the entire british cabinet while Thatcher was in power in the Brighton Hotel is about to be released. He killed and maimed half of the British 'Party in powers' ' cabinet. This man should not be allowed to walk on gods' given earth, he damn well brought the government to take large scale reprisals in Irish cities as they were doing in England. (This is fact, a friend of mine was a Colonel in the Royal Artillery stationed in Northern Ireland, their guns artillery pieces) were trained on Dublin awaiting the Prime Ministers go ahead.
What are your thoughts for the true punishments for these, well, traitors to the country they choose to reside and leech off of.
And what are the current punishments in your country.
Jack.
I personally think this is a form of treason and should carry the death penalty, especially with the trouble we are getting in Britiain at the moment.
I personally think that you lose your citizenship and right to live if you take anothers' life, you have no right. The "Eye for an Eye" laws in SAudi Arabi work nicely.. You steal something, then your hand gets cut off. Or what used to happen to snipers - their trigger fingers were cut off so they became a useless body for the enemy.
Now I know full well the death penalty was revoked by the home secretary in the late 90's for treason, but events such as terrosism should make the public realise that these people will never be safe to release, they will always be a danger to the public.
And everytime one of the terrorists gets put under surveillance they flee the country!
from the IRA, to Al-Queda they have never been dealt with properly. The IRA terrorist who bombed the entire british cabinet while Thatcher was in power in the Brighton Hotel is about to be released. He killed and maimed half of the British 'Party in powers' ' cabinet. This man should not be allowed to walk on gods' given earth, he damn well brought the government to take large scale reprisals in Irish cities as they were doing in England. (This is fact, a friend of mine was a Colonel in the Royal Artillery stationed in Northern Ireland, their guns artillery pieces) were trained on Dublin awaiting the Prime Ministers go ahead.
What are your thoughts for the true punishments for these, well, traitors to the country they choose to reside and leech off of.
And what are the current punishments in your country.
Jack.
5 people have been arrested so far
all over the country
including the charred terrorists in glasgow
all over the country
including the charred terrorists in glasgow
get a few beers in her
and you can talk to her with no shyness
coz you will be like her drunken hero
and you can talk to her with no shyness
coz you will be like her drunken hero
erm it would never happen mate.
no point even discussing
no point even discussing
"Two men, one of whom was reported to be badly burned, were seen being led away in handcuffs. "
they should be shot
they should be shot
Glasgow International Airport was targeted at 1515 BST today. The Cherokee Jeep rammed the doors while on fire, however the crude device of detanators, gas cylinders, petrol and nails didn't go off. Thank God.
This is just after another device exactly the same was found in London.
How long till one of these bombs are successful?
as we are coming up to the anniversary of the 7/7 bombings two years ago.
This is just after another device exactly the same was found in London.
How long till one of these bombs are successful?
as we are coming up to the anniversary of the 7/7 bombings two years ago.
Your search returned no hits.Penetrator_01 wrote:
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D&ST? Junk it!
Go back
jesus christdont_be_ss wrote:
some of budgies finest shots.
what setting does he use!?!
I'm just interested to see how many people from across the world are in the military that play bf2 or bf2142 etc
i know a few who play online as an escape from teh reality of war not often you get shot and turn up at your base 15 seconds later with a new weapon and no wounds.
i know a few who play online as an escape from teh reality of war not often you get shot and turn up at your base 15 seconds later with a new weapon and no wounds.
try and get myself a purple heart and failed
but like the next day i got it for being a noob =]
also sniping people on my own team coz the names didnt appear
spamming "enemy boat spotted" - still do it but oh well
go on american and japanese servers...which would causes everyone to lag coz im in the uk
kill my tema mates for their guns.(unlocks) to test them out so i could get them later
but like the next day i got it for being a noob =]
also sniping people on my own team coz the names didnt appear
spamming "enemy boat spotted" - still do it but oh well
go on american and japanese servers...which would causes everyone to lag coz im in the uk
kill my tema mates for their guns.(unlocks) to test them out so i could get them later
Mine is MUSE
they are amazing and have amazing lyrics and put on an amazing show live.
the music is their life
and for that reason i love em
anyone else?
they are amazing and have amazing lyrics and put on an amazing show live.
the music is their life
and for that reason i love em
anyone else?
schutzstaffelEnder2309 wrote:
m3thod, we just need the SS.
i bet its something stupid like family initials
NAZI SS ^_^
well...as im 15...and have spent most of my life with my dog...d3athwi5h4 wrote:
I've had many pets. Right now I have a 15 year old cat I like him he is cool and all, but he is just a cat. I've had LOTS of dogs too. I like animals, but I'm a bit more realistic about their place in the world. I think people get a little crazy about their animals thats all.
i get that its humans then dogs but still ... the characteristics that are portrayed by them is unimaginable.. thy sense sadness and anger..and somehow just make you feel better
erm i take it you dont have a pet?d3athwi5h4 wrote:
I can see being upset about a child being woke up and bothered by fireworks, but animals??????? Who cares about dogs and cats ffs!hurricane2oo5 wrote:
fuckin kids with fireworks keep waking my 6 month old daughter up !!
i tell you .. dogs become part of the family
you get very attached
ive had my dog since he was 6 months
hes now 11
so u can see why im attached
when he dies its gonna be a sad day i tell ya
mines afraid of rain...when you open the front door and its raining he steps out to check it out then backs up back into the house and looks at you as if your mad coz you want him to go out in itryan_14 wrote:
My dog is afraid of wind and rain.
well thats just plain weird lolIron_Sentinel wrote:
They are an Australian State and Territory.[bpuk]jack wrote:
NSW??Iron_Sentinel wrote:
Fireworks are illegal here in NSW, but not in the ACT - just a short 3 hour drive away and no border checks
They are illegal for everyday use - but when Chinese New Year, our New Year and all the other cultural celebrations rock around they are allowed.
ACT??
New South Wales (Sydney); Australian Capital Territory (the place where Canberra is)
NSW??Iron_Sentinel wrote:
Fireworks are illegal here in NSW, but not in the ACT - just a short 3 hour drive away and no border checks[bpuk]jack wrote:
O.oAPortillo wrote:
Being from California were this kind of entertainment is illegal, except on July 4th, I'm somewhat jealous.
illegal .. wow
with the amount of supposed ethinic "minorites" which are now ethnic majorites we have them all year round with the calendar events like ramalamadingdong and things
(btw thats what a muslim mate calls it..not me )
They are illegal for everyday use - but when Chinese New Year, our New Year and all the other cultural celebrations rock around they are allowed.
ACT??
lol i love our opinions of DICE
then theyd suddenly fall outRDMC(2) wrote:
Just let Dice patch it and it will be allright[bpuk]jack wrote:
youd have to sell them in a lot of sizes O.oIron_Sentinel wrote:
I smell a niche market......PET EAR PLUGS!
Im gonna be rich.
you could have problems if you try and put an alsations' earplugs in a gerbil
O.oAPortillo wrote:
Being from California were this kind of entertainment is illegal, except on July 4th, I'm somewhat jealous.
illegal .. wow
with the amount of supposed ethinic "minorites" which are now ethnic majorites we have them all year round with the calendar events like ramalamadingdong and things
(btw thats what a muslim mate calls it..not me )
its amazing how small a dog can curl up when hes' scaredic|shiney wrote:
tottaly agree my dog sleeps at the front door and the little twats in my area decide to drop him apresent through the letter box boooooooom dog nearly has heart attack
youd have to sell them in a lot of sizes O.oIron_Sentinel wrote:
I smell a niche market......PET EAR PLUGS!
Im gonna be rich.
you could have problems if you try and put an alsations' earplugs in a gerbil
i like fireworks but go to the displays dont let them off in resedential areas so the dogs shit themselves and wont leave the house for a walk
jesus christ...i live about 20 miles out of london in a ruralish area and the amount of fireworks is stupid
im 15 and speaking as a person with a pet..i have a dog and i find the private fireworks displays unfair. go to the public ones if you want them dont let them off at 11pm and scare dogs shitless so their shaking like a leaf curled in a ball in the corner of the room. He has to get sedated for most of november. He goes to sleep in otober , misses most of november then wakes up in time for christmas...its ludricrous ffs.
anyone else agree?
im 15 and speaking as a person with a pet..i have a dog and i find the private fireworks displays unfair. go to the public ones if you want them dont let them off at 11pm and scare dogs shitless so their shaking like a leaf curled in a ball in the corner of the room. He has to get sedated for most of november. He goes to sleep in otober , misses most of november then wakes up in time for christmas...its ludricrous ffs.
anyone else agree?