slidero
points
+31|6768
http://www.totalbf2.com/features/interv … -dice2.php

So it's all pretty much confirmed now.  It's going to be really really hard to get used to all these changes.
=Robin-Hood=
A stranger in the dark
+213|6813|Belgium

Although I am not going to start the discussion about what sounds useful and what not here (since this is ongoing elsewhere )... I had a laugh with the very first answer:

DICE wrote:

We are in the process of wrapping up patch 1.2 and kicking off 1.3.
HA…ha… Grrummbbllgrrrr...

What self-respecting company is releasing a patch to fix his screw-ups from previous version AND is immediately planning his next patch for the screw-ups they are yet to make... Com'on DICE... try to be a little serious and test your shit before release, and release it all in one package !!!
I sincerely don't care about X-mas, nor do I care about the release before that date... But I do care about being forced upon a new update that is not adequately tested!
Grrr...
R

Ps.: but it seems that they are changing quite a few things and for me it sounds (again... I liked 1.03!) for the better...
beeng
Get C4, here!
+66|6778

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

Ps.: but it seems that they are changing quite a few things and for me it sounds (again... I liked 1.03!) for the better...
Yup.. but theyll probably do it half-assed like they usually do, i.e. blackhawks, bunny hopping, AA 'fix'.  You know what I'm saying
Mabec
Re-Member-Me
+6|6824
quite interesting. didnt know they actually worked this hard with the patches, oh well...
PinkSugarHeartAttack
Sailor Mini Moon
+0|6720
I'm hoping for the best. I'm excited to see the bitch moves getting axed, gonna be funny to watch them just panic while I mow them down. Most excited about the heli reduction. I hate seeing my tank not blow up an attack chopper. Charge my AA tank now you little nandies
WilhelmSissener
Banned
+557|6725|Oslo, Norway
they did not say anything about "spawnraping"
uk.solidsnake
Member
+3|6700|England, UK
It's interesting how they believe removing the ability to shoot and jump is going to stop bunny hopping. People will still be able to hop about to avoid fire, while reloading for example. The only thing it will affect directly is jumping and GL shooting.

I found this interesting, too:

TotalBF2.com: Can you please comment on "Helicopter now carry 8 missiles rather than 14"? And where did this idea come from?

Armando: This was a request directly from the franchise director. He felt that the helicopter payload was a little excessive and felt that this change was needed.


So, my understanding of that is that some guy up at the top decided that the helos had too many missiles, and that the change was final? No thought of how the community would react? What a crock of garbage, that's total disregard of customers at it's best.

Oh well, I'll adjust, just like I had to for the previous patches.

Last edited by uk.solidsnake (2005-12-21 16:08:42)

grazer1
Banned
+0|6705
Spawn raping is a part of every online multiplayer game. experience always prevails. I have no issues with campers, I put them in their place!
beeng
Get C4, here!
+66|6778

uk.solidsnake wrote:

Armando: This was a request directly from the franchise director. He felt that the helicopter payload was a little excessive and felt that this change was needed.
Thats funny shit; bet he's a tank guy and kept getting blown up by choppers ;D haha
T3CHHGod
Member
+1|6713
they are going to ruin bf2 more then it already is
the game is fine right now except the littly bitches who cry about bunny hopping..
well everyone can buny hop so why dont they just stfu..
secondly   on certian maps i would stand  behind a fence and toss granades over or c4 over a brick wall and blow it
well that can very well be done in real life and usually is
so why cant we jump and toss nades now we wont even be able to toss them far now

we wont even be able to toss c4 off a rooof onto a tank or over a wall where theres enemies

this is the stupidist thing ive seen yet


oh and the choppers having less missles?
well thats a crock of shit
im so glad my last EA game i purchased was madden 98 for PS

Last edited by T3CHHGod (2005-12-21 16:30:23)

Revelstoke
The Medic Whore
+9|6694|Ontario
i cant connect to the site anymore..
beeng
Get C4, here!
+66|6778

T3CHHGod wrote:

well everyone can buny hop so why dont they just stfu..
...
this is the stupidist thing ive seen yet
sounds like you yourself is whining

@revelstoke: me too.
insanemotherfucker
Member
+0|6701

T3CHHGod wrote:

they are going to ruin bf2 more then it already is
the game is fine right now except the littly bitches who cry about bunny hopping..
well everyone can buny hop so why dont they just stfu..
.Dude your the dumbest person i have seen. Your just mad cuz there stopping bunny hopping cuz your not skilled and have to bunny hop to get points and not die. cuz you have no skill at this game so shut the fuck up!
Rakasan
Member
+7|6829|California, USA
Seems like EA hired a bunch of noobs who complain about everything to do the patch.  So you can't jump and throw grenades too?  What new non-EA games are coming out?
Kniero
Banned
+1|6738|AZ
Age of Empires III is out and it's good...and uhm...I like Dungeon Siege II...and then there's the upcoming "Red Orchestra", what I hear is going to be a KILLER WWII combat simulation. Aside from that, you have Half Life 2, Counter Strike: Source, all of the MMORPGs, and then some other shitty RTS's.

I'm surprised they don't even mention any bug fixes. Off the top of the head, these problems come to mind: your allies who sometimes don't appear on radar and have red names, the tapping of the side of a moving armored vehicle resulting in immediate obliteration, the instant death when attempting to run and jump over a corner created by a vehicle parked against a wall, the 1 shot tank kill from another, regular tank shell, the deaths where your player somehow instantaneously dies when exitting a vehicle at high speed (supposedly a clip by the tail of the vehicle they were driving, though this is infeasible when regarding the fact that deaths like this happen when merely travelling in a straight path), and the complete stomping of a death a tank can issue to an APC just by ramming it into a fairly snug corner. All of these concerns should've been dealt with, but why hasn't there been any word on them? On top of that, the fact that no infantry option will be added to modify the amount of time it takes for a claymore's motion recognition to activate is also a downer.

Really, I haven't seen anyone with a K/D ratio higher than 5 with a helicopter, so why would they think they need nerfing? The only understandable alteration I see here is the mitigation of the helicopters' armor.

Blaah,
Kniero
Krappyappy
'twice cooked beef!'
+111|6812
the reason they fix these things which don't really need fixing is simple:

all the kiddies bitched about it constantly for the past 3 months. well, the moaning and whining worked, now infantry becomes even more powerless against vehicles.

seems like they'll be nerfing the GLs in 1.3. GG whiner newbs, you win again.

the funny thing is, the people who were good before the patches will probably still own after. the newbs will just find something new to whine about.

'0mGz j00 kill3d me! guns are so cheap! you should have to wait for me to shoot you before you can do anything!'

i've seen it happen again and again in other games.
./KRUX
Member
+1|6729|Austin Texas
there was no plan for patch 1.2 or 1.3 until a few months ago.!!!!!!!<--- did they really not forsee patching this product!! Come on now your kidding?!?
TotalBF2.com: Can you please comment on "Helicopter now carry 8 missiles rather than 14"? And where did this idea come from?

Armando: This was a request directly from the franchise director. He felt that the helicopter payload was a little excessive and felt that this change was needed.
Yea dont both with what the community wants its all about your boss. You bunch of sell outs. If im flying i rely on my gunner for kills anyways...and never dump all my shots in one pass. So now when i make my run ill be helplessly realoading after my passes. Maybe ill not be bothered. Doing this on one guys thoughts is alittle bias thou. Who's he think he is the KING of battlefield.

This company amazes me, EA mostly. Where are the from? Its like there aliens. I can only sit back and laugh thinking about these guys at work. Doing shit like forgeting the coffee cup when getting coffee. Or forgeting to get dressed for work and comming in the buff. Opps! I did it again!

The comments about Emails they recieve says it all. I would bet most people write emails when there angry. Which is why you get some typos and stuff. I bet they they rarely follow emails if not dicard them out right if they see typos. Id say they prolly recieved some hum dingers from some upset customers. No good ideas? I doubt it.

Last edited by ./KRUX (2005-12-21 18:29:32)

Operator_Stavros
Member
+3|6729
If you don't like it, leave it!!

If we lose all the people who are complaining or dislike the new patch, than I say for the better. We wont miss your jet/Heli-whoring bunny hopping asses anyways.

On a side note, I think this forum should have your age listed under your name,  so that way I can quickly look at the posters age and disregard your replies and threads.  Better yet have a filter that can be selected so I don't have to read all the spam you sub 18 year old children are typing.

Wahh the chopper has 6 less rockets than it does in real life.  GET OVER IT BEOTCHES!

Oh yea, do I need to see half Naked girls that take up half the screen on my 1600x1200 resolution screen?  Grow up kids, your immaturity is disgusting.  Yea you might think that girl is hot rubbing her snatch through her red panties.  DO I care? No, and I'd rather not have to see that when reading a BF2 forum.  I prefer real flesh and blood stimulus.  Keep your softcore prono collection to yourselves.

There are 6 instances of those lame ass sigs in this thread already.

Last edited by Operator_Stavros (2005-12-21 18:11:02)

./KRUX
Member
+1|6729|Austin Texas

Operator_Stavros wrote:

If you don't like it, leave it!!

If we lose all the people who are complaining or dislike the new patch, than I say for the better. We wont miss your jet/Heli-whoring bunny hopping asses anyways.

On a side note, I think this forum should have your age listed under your name,  so that way I can quickly look at the posters age and disregard your replies and threads.  Better yet have a filter that can be selected so I don't have to read all the spam you sub 18 year old children are typing.

Wahh the chopper has 6 less rockets than it does in real life.  GET OVER IT BEOTCHES!

Oh yea, do I need to see half Naked girls that take up half the screen on my 1600x1200 resolution screen?  Grow up kids, your immaturity is disgusting.  Yea you might think that girl is hot rubbing her snatch through her red panties.  DO I care? No, and I'd rather not have to see that when reading a BF2 forum.  I prefer real flesh and blood stimulus.  Keep your softcore prono collection to yourselves.

There are 6 instances of those lame ass sigs in this thread already.
heh, sounds like you need some of that life and blood stimuli. Its the internet! It might not be what jesus wants but its all we got.
AD_Kensan
Member
+7|6777

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

[snip]
What self-respecting company is releasing a patch to fix his screw-ups from previous version AND is immediately planning his next patch for the screw-ups they are yet to make... Com'on DICE... try to be a little serious and test your shit before release, and release it all in one package !!!
[snip]
Obviously you do not know much about software development and the product cycles. There is no such thing as bug-free code neither can you satisfy all gamers at the same time. It just shows that DICE thinks BF2 is worth putting in more work.

If they would release it "all in one package" as you call it they would never have shipped the game in the first place...

This is pretty off topic I am sorry but I had to say this...

Last edited by AD_Kensan (2005-12-21 18:32:47)

RKF77
Member
+1|6743

Krappyappy wrote:

all the kiddies bitched about it constantly for the past 3 months. well, the moaning and whining worked, now infantry becomes even more powerless against vehicles.
How do you figure?

Krappyappy wrote:

seems like they'll be nerfing the GLs in 1.3. GG whiner newbs, you win again.
I don't see a list of thing they're doing in 1.3, just a very vague mention of tweaking them in some way in 1.2.  Why don't we wait and see what they do to it before getting all worked up about it?

If they give it a minimum distance to arm, or tweak it so the "fire-it-at-your-feet" crowd actually takes damage, is that necessarily a bad thing?

Krappyappy wrote:

the funny thing is, the people who were good before the patches will probably still own after.
So what's the problem?  A lot of them probably will, because they'll adapt.

Good gamers will simply adapt their play style and keep going.  Crybabies will bitch, whine and moan that their favored exploits are gone.
BeforeGod
Member
+0|6807|British Columbia
Overall the patch sounds nice, I only have two main concerns. One, that you won't be able to throw mines or hand grenades while jumping. Not being able to throw the mines on top of tanks almost negates the engineer's anti armour ability, most people would agree that this is one class that doesn't need to be nerfed any further.

Secondly, they didn't mention how exactly they would reduce grenade launcher abuse. I would favour a more realistic system where the grenade has to have traveled a decent distance before being able to detonate. This would have the benefits of 1) replicating the safety features of real life grenade launchers 2) taking away the ability to run around a corner and aim at someones feet 3) still keep the launcher as an effective anti transport weapon. I really hope this is the direction they choose to go.

On the positive side the news that the choppers would be losing hit points and missiles made me actually cheer out loud (thats pretty unlike me...). The total abuse of choppers on maps like Mashtuur and the rampant air whoring on any map with jets has led me to believe that air vehicles take more out of this game then they add to it...

Oh well we can only hope for the best I guess.

Operator_Stavros wrote:

Oh yea, do I need to see half Naked girls that take up half the screen on my 1600x1200 resolution screen?  Grow up kids, your immaturity is disgusting.  Yea you might think that girl is hot rubbing her snatch through her red panties.  DO I care? No, and I'd rather not have to see that when reading a BF2 forum.  I prefer real flesh and blood stimulus.  Keep your softcore prono collection to yourselves.

There are 6 instances of those lame ass sigs in this thread already.
Agreed man. This stuff is getting out of hand.
beeng
Get C4, here!
+66|6778

Operator_Stavros wrote:

Oh yea, do I need to see half Naked girls that take up half the screen on my 1600x1200 resolution screen?  Grow up kids, your immaturity is disgusting.  Yea you might think that girl is hot rubbing her snatch through her red panties.  DO I care? No, and I'd rather not have to see that when reading a BF2 forum.  I prefer real flesh and blood stimulus.  Keep your softcore prono collection to yourselves.
Hey; you don't have to look at it
in any case thats not the point of this topic... and yes everyone needs to calm down and relax.  The patch will come out, things will be changed and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it
Just remember, bf2 is a game.  Games are for fun.  Have fun
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|6821|Grapevine, TX

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

great........bf2 just turned into shit.
And all you other BF2 haters I have an IDEA for you:
1. Delete and remove the software from your PC.
2. Remove BF2s.com from your favorites list and history drop down list.
3. Play something that DOES satisfy your gaming needs, as BF2 is not for you.
4. Sell it to Gamestop or on eBay.
Thanks for playing, we won't miss you on the battlefield or the forums.
Sud
Member
+0|6740
Nice to see that the community media is asking the questions they're told to ask rather than putting a little bit of fire under their feet.

I agree on the porn thing, I got mighty sick of seeing these retarded sigs (especially at work). So I turned off signature images in the forum options. And yet, SOME dumbshit is actually MANUALLY pasting his stupid porn girl in every one of his posts to ensure they get through even that.

edit: and one of those dumbshits is insanemotherfucker, put your porn in your sig please, not in the body of your messages.

Last edited by Sud (2005-12-21 19:11:23)

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