m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6883|UK
if some of those 5 year olds had GUNZ they could have defended themselves.  Ergo need moar GUNZ.
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m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6883|UK
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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6870|BC, Canada
CNN gonna get somebody killed.
El Beardo
steel woolly mammoth
+150|5932|Gulf Coast

Mike Huckabee wrote:

We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we’ve systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we’ve made it a place where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability?
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/ … ?mobile=nc


What a fucking cunt.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5797

A man with a knife slashed 22 children and one adult outside an elementary school in Henan province Friday morning, China's worst such incident in more than a year.

The attack was reminiscent of a spate of knife attacks on schoolchildren that took place across China in 2010. In most cases, the attackers were unemployed middle-aged men, leading to speculation that the assaults stemmed from economic and social discontent.

Friday's attack occurred at about 7:40 a.m. as children were arriving outside the gate of Chenpeng Village’s Wanquan Elementary School. The suspect, Min Yingjun, 36, allegedly slashed an elderly woman as well as the children. Local propaganda officials said later that Min had a psychological illness.

Pictures uploaded to the Internet by bystanders show family members carrying young children with bandages on their heads. The local reports state that four seriously wounded children were transferred to other hospitals for intensive care.
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/world … 3015.story
4 serious injuries. If he had had a gun he could have killed all 22 victims. Gun control clearly doesn't work.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5797

El Beardo wrote:

Mike Huckabee wrote:

We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we’ve systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we’ve made it a place where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability?
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/ … ?mobile=nc


What a fucking cunt.
He said the same thing last time there was a school shooting. It is his thing.
El Beardo
steel woolly mammoth
+150|5932|Gulf Coast

Yea, he's still a cunt. He could've just yelled "I told you so! I told you so!" and it would've sounded equally compassionate to me.
Canin
Conservative Roman Catholic
+280|6686|Foothills of S. Carolina

west-phoenix-az wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

no macbeth no
Chou
Member
+737|7002

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

it's too bad the pussy killed himself, would've been nice to see him get the needle. what a fucking piece of shit.
Torture is so much more rewarding.
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6176|London, England

according to some of my facebook friends this is an important time to call obama "fagbama" and mention how this wouldnt happen if elementary school teachers carried guns
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5755|Toronto
Here's a novel question: why do we think that arming civilians who have hunting or shooting range experience will prevent mass-shootings?

A teacher with a gun is not going to have the training to engage in a shootout with another armed person. And if they are, will they have enough training to do it in a crowd of people?

If they do have the chance to shoot them before they are threatened, they're not going to be trained in non-lethal action. I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that we should try not kill everyone who threatens us. Proportionality in force would seem a good policy to me.

Anyways, I'm not here to write reasoned responses. I come here so I don't have to do that.

Summary: Mutantbear, it's time to commit facebook genocide. Unfriend.
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6944|St. Andrews / Oslo

That's some Ann Coulter logic right there
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5913|College Park, MD
Huh? Why would you shoot someone who's not presenting a threat? As soon as someone draws a gun, it's a threat.
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5755|Toronto

Jenspm wrote:

That's some Ann Coulter logic right there
Coulter can say anything she wants. Coulter is hot. If I were hot, I'd be telling people that we need to mount a preemptive defense against boiling water, because it might burn us if it were to ever get too hot. My policy recommendation would be to send all (ALL) of the water into the sun.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5755|Toronto

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Huh? Why would you shoot someone who's not presenting a threat? As soon as someone draws a gun, it's a threat.
I don't recall ever saying they had to draw a gun. I think I said 'if they are threatening'.

Maybe they drew a gun to deter other less trustworthy gun-holding people who may show up from drawing their gun and shooting? I think they were trying to help. Deterrence is just as important as a reaction. Let's prevent problems before they happen.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5797

Pochsy wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

That's some Ann Coulter logic right there
Coulter is hot.
When it comes to right wing women commentators I'd pick Michelle Malkin
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6944|St. Andrews / Oslo

Ehh, at least show them enough respect to judge them as the dreadful commentators they are.
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5755|Toronto

Jenspm wrote:

Ehh, at least show them enough respect to judge them as the dreadful commentators they are.
I think that was Macbeth's point in showing a video where an attractive women argues for women's rights in the world of politics.

EDIT- also, it should be noted that in my joke about why people listen to Coulter (which is thinly veiled and hardly a joke), the intent was to draw attention to the fact that maybe we shouldn't be considering what people look like to determine why their opinions matter. It's pretty clear that Coulter has a following similar to Palin's. It's a bad thing.

Does using your gender/beauty to argue against gender/beauty really achieve its end? I would suggest it does not...

Last edited by Pochsy (2012-12-14 17:40:58)

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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6944|St. Andrews / Oslo

probs
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6983|PNW

m3thod wrote:

if some of those 5 year olds had GUNZ they could have defended themselves.  Ergo need moar GUNZ.
Is anyone actually arguing for that? I think most people mean school security.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6983|PNW

-Whiteroom- wrote:

CNN gonna get somebody killed.
(CNN emailed after this post went up to make it clear that they never ran his photo; Fox News apparently did
http://gawker.com/5968551/this-ryan-lan … everything

-.-
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5797

Multiple outlets are now reporting that Adam Lanza, Ryan's brother, was the shooter.
Close enough.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6926|US

Pochsy wrote:

Here's a novel question: why do we think that arming civilians who have hunting or shooting range experience will prevent mass-shootings?

A teacher with a gun is not going to have the training to engage in a shootout with another armed person. And if they are, will they have enough training to do it in a crowd of people?

If they do have the chance to shoot them before they are threatened, they're not going to be trained in non-lethal action. I don't think it's unreasonable to argue that we should try not kill everyone who threatens us. Proportionality in force would seem a good policy to me.

Anyways, I'm not here to write reasoned responses. I come here so I don't have to do that.

Summary: Mutantbear, it's time to commit facebook genocide. Unfriend.
You do have a point. 
However, a person could be a Delta operator, and still not be legal to carry in a school.  The current solution is pretty much one-size fits all (except LEOs).
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6901|Tampa Bay Florida
The Republican solution : Send all teachers to Afghanistan.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6675|cuntshitlake

And now it's the politicians' turn to start their tedious debates about gun laws. How are people naive enough to seriously think changing gun laws would have ANY effect on anything at this point? Every kid could very easily get a gun illegally if buying them was made harder.

Remember, guns kill people, not mentally fucked up people.
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