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Camm wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

some guys have all the fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2GchQ3orB0

What's the difference between a 'dry' and a 'wet' suppressor?

Good demo for it.

west-phoenix-az wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Rugers are garbage.

No

To paraphrase a a site moderator, "You're wrong."

Also relevant:

Last edited by Extra Medium (2012-11-23 06:45:25)

13urnzz wrote:

can you back up your opinion why Rugers are garbage?

Mark I
Mark II
Mark III
LC9

Those 4 alone are enough to completely ruin me on Rugers FOREVER.  The Mark I- III's have got to be the most over complicated, user unfriendly and overall BAD designs of a pistol I've ever seen.  The inevitable dumbass comes along and argues to me "But it's just a .22" or, It's so accurate and easy to shoot."  No.  1st off, an experienced gun owner knows that accuracy and ease to shoot are one thing, but no firearm is worth a damn if it simply doesn't work or is close to impossible to clean.

A friend brought a Mark 3 over for me to clean (I clean on the side for extra cash and because I like taking guns apart), he said he hadn't ever cleaned it because he couldn't figure out how to get it apart. 

I immediately recognized how to get it apart and got halfway through before the bolt assembly became jammed because the internal hammer was in the wrong position.  I had to beat on the pistol with a wooden stick to coax the hammer down.  Once down the gun required no more dis-assembly because it essentially fell apart in my hands.  The sheer amount of unnecessary nooks and crannies was baffling to me as they made no sense and acted only as giant carbon traps.  Once the gun was cleaned I started to re-assemble.  The barrel would not stay on the frame as the gun did not catch it properly and to be awkwardly held in place while the rest of the gun was assembled.  Once the barrel was on, the hammer needed to be in the down position to insert the bolt assembly, but once the bolt assembly was in, the hammer needed to be in the up position, BUT, not to far as a little metal piece that dangled had to fit into a small crack of the spring lever.  Getting the hammer at just the correct angle required holding the pistol at an awkward angle and using a screwdriver to hold it in place.  You almost had to have 3 hands to do it correctly. 

Come to find out, if it was not in the absolute perfect position when the spring lever was closed the entire pistol would jam up and I do mean jam.  If it jammed the safety would not move, the bolt assembly could not move, the gun could not be cocked and the spring lever would not come out without the use of a screwdriver.  The only way to un-jam the gun without forcing it was to once again beat on it with a wooden stick.  After 3 attempts I finally managed to get the gun back together, but now the trigger would not drop the hammer.  I disassembled the pistol again to investigate and found the hammer was not sitting flush with the gun.  Turns out, the internal workings of the trigger assembly are held together with push pins, as is the hammer, as is the magazine spring and guess what happened while I had to beat on it with the wooden stick?  The fucking push pins came loose and the entirety of the inner grip assembly had essentially fallen apart.  After putting everything back together for a fourth time the gun would finally cycle and the hammer fell on the trigger pull.  I insert a mag to test fire and the magazine keeps falling out.  Another push pin problem.  Resolve that.  Finally fire the gun.  Nothing impressive.  I shot no better with it than I do with my colt revolver .22.

I am well versed with guns and how to work on them and never have I seen such a nightmare.  I've repaired, stripped, assembled, cleaned, and shot more guns than I can remember in my life and that little pistol was the worst.  Is it accurate?  Yes.  Did it fit me good?  Yes.  However the difficulty of maintenance drops the score to 0/10 in my book as an average Joe would have a 0% of figuring that shit out when it came time to clean his gun.  How Ruger could field test something like this and say "Yes, this is civilian worthy model and it's as good as we can make it" on not one but THREE different versions of this pistol blows my mind.


I won't go into as much detail on the LC9 but it is just a piece of shit.  I friend bought one and we went to shoot it about a week later.  The gun felt like shit in my hand, had horrible sights and the magazine fell out of the gun no less than 4 times while shooting over the 2 hours we where there.  It reminded me very much of a Hi-Point pistol a co-worker brought to me once.  Just a rush made, poorly designed hunk of shit designed for poor people and fanboys.

People like to applaud Ruger for their effectiveness at building revolvers.  I'm not a fan of revolvers, I do own a few but I inherited them.  My take on revolvers is after 160+ years of making revolvers and refining the process.....how do you fuck up a revolver?  Way to go, they can make easy to manf, time tested, pre-existing designs without fucking it up and put nice grips and stamp a pretty logo on them.  Way to go Ruger.  Ya'll are my hero for sure.

13urnzz wrote:

ok.

i don't have any experience with those particular models, and i can see that after hands on experience that you do.

i don't happen to agree with the statement 'Rugers are garbage' because of my experience the ones i have owned or used have worked flawlessly.

i hope that you can see how a simple statement will rub someone the wrong way. i do applaud you for backing up your statement - all i'll ask is don't go full retard if someone doesn't happen to agree with it.

Well I am assuming at this point you are a revolver guy and as I said, it's hard to fuck up a revolver (although I have seen some obscene revolvers with barrel on bottom cylinder on top).  I can appreciate your point of view and I appreciate the fact that you appreciate mine. 

Appreciation station.

(EDIT:  This waiting 30 minutes before I am able to post again is really getting old. While I wait I will post my arsenal.)

1939 Colt Police Issue .22LR Revolver
Glock Model 22 Gen4 .40 S&W
Glock Model 22 Gen3 .40 S&W
Glock Model 17 Gen3 9mm
Beretta 92FS 9mm
Sig P226 Extreme .40 S&W
Sig P229R .40 S&W
Kimber Tactical Custom HD II 1911 .45ACP
FN Herstal Five Seven 5.7mm
Beretta Nano 9mm
Benelli Super Nova 12gauge
Mossberg 500 12gauge no-stock pistol grip (home defense)
and a few others I can't think of at the moment

So my brother owns a Remington 870 that he uses for target shooting. He's already got a soft case for it. Would a speed loader be a good gift?

Extra Medium wrote:

Jay wrote:

So my brother owns a Remington 870 that he uses for target shooting. He's already got a soft case for it. Would a speed loader be a good gift?

lolwat

If he is only using it for target shooting, get him an extended magazine tube.

Can only load two rounds at a time at the range he goes to

Moe didn't seem to have a problem. . .

13urnzz wrote:

Moe didn't seem to have a problem. . .

Moe probably takes care of his and has done it numerous times.  The one I had hadn't been cleaned in several years and I had no experience with it.  The point is, it's an obsolete design that's still being manufactured.

I've never had a problem with my 10/22, but then there isn't much disassembly required there.

SKS was a norinco import factory made paratrooper model. Didn't need to be cut down. Fire's awesomely. I've only put around 150 rounds through it just to sight in the reflex sight. All I had to do was remove rear leaf sight and remove front sight post.

Pro's
Center of weight allows it to be held nicely with one hand
Overall length is perfect
Price
7.62
Holds It's Zero

Cons
11lbs with loaded mag
Can be clunkly
Since it's 7.62 and it has a 16" barrel, the recoil is a little bit more than I'd like
Magazine removal takes some practice but can be easily learned


I love this weapon. It does take some familiarization but it's not too bad. Great fun, great looks, great price.

EDIT: I read through the posts and I did want to address the trigger pull. It litteraly is spot on! the spring inside has a nut to turn to adjust as needed per sks which is awesome! They did an amazing job on the stock and the trigger pull on mine is as good as the AR's I own. Couldn't have been happier.

Last edited by NeXuS (2012-11-25 18:00:03)

Hey guys, I'm in the market for a 30-30 lever-action rifle. (because I like cowboys and indians. Don't hate ) Does anyone have a certain brand or actual model to recommend?

you should get a lever rifle in .357/.38.  that would be more "cowboys and indians" than a 30-30.  cheaper too.  Winchester, Marlin, or any of the CAS makers can outfit you.