BF2S Forums Despite concealed carry, the south has more violent crime

i'd assume that it's a tiny minority of people that actually carry so it doesn't affect anything.

Mexicans.

texas?
rebellion?

Macbeth wrote:

Violent crime in the United States declined 6% last year, according to statistics compiled by the FBI and released Monday.

Despite difficult economic conditions, the 2010 figures show a continuing decline in violent incidents nationwide, which have been dropping annually since 2006.
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Since 2001, violent incidents have now dropped 13.4%.

Violence flared slightly more in the South than in other regions of the country, according to the FBI statistics.

In other violent crime categories, aggravated assaults were down 4.1%, rape declined 5%, and robbery dropped 10%.

In non-violent crimes, the FBI said property crime declined 2.7%. Both auto theft and arson were down more than 7%.

http://m.cnn.com/primary/_4RmqdJ-iHHgblQr2Pv
So since the south has the most states with the castle law and is the most liberal in their issuance of CC permits why is there more violent crime down there than in the north? Shouldn't the whole stand your ground cowboy thing make the place safer?

I never get tired of the bullshit argument that, just because you are a gun owner, you are some sort of cowboy hell bent on killing people...

Pretty much will not give this OP another thought.

HITNRUNXX wrote:

lowing wrote:

I never get tired of the bullshit argument that, just because you are a gun owner, you are some sort of cowboy hell bent on killing people...

Pretty much will not give this OP another thought.

Wait a sec... You own a gun and you DON'T wear a cape and jump rooftop to rooftop shooting random bad guys? Turn it in... No gun for you. What do you think it is for? Personal defense or something? Stupid. You should be out in the south, saving the world one domestic abuser at a time!

Thing is, I live in the south, but I never got the memo.

Funny, I got pulled over yesterday for speeding by a GA State Trooper. I rolled down my window, put my left arm on the door frame and my right on the top left side of my steering wheel. The Trooper walked up, and ask for my license. Before I moved I informed him that I had a CCW and my weapon was in the center console of my truck. He asked where my license was and I told him in my wallet. He then asked me to take out my wallet slowly and stay away from my center console. I did as instructed and handed him my license. He said thank you and told me he would be right back.
About 20 seconds later he came back handed me my license and let me off with a warning. No ticket!!! He thanked me for being up front about my CCW and let I went on my way. So basically even with the cops a CCW does not throw an alarm saying deadly killer on the loose!! I guess it is only those that are not allowed to carry guns that hate you for carrying one

RAIMIUS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

http://m.cnn.com/primary/_4RmqdJ-iHHgblQr2Pv
So since the south has the most states with the castle law and is the most liberal in their issuance of CC permits why is there more violent crime down there than in the north? Shouldn't the whole stand your ground cowboy thing make the place safer?

Here is the current map:

The South isn't really different from most places, except the upper North-east.
IL is the oddball (and Chicago has a proud heritage of extreme crime rates).

I didn't realize "The South" covered so much of the US...

Macbeth wrote:

Violent crime in the United States declined 6% last year, according to statistics compiled by the FBI and released Monday.

Despite difficult economic conditions, the 2010 figures show a continuing decline in violent incidents nationwide, which have been dropping annually since 2006.
...
Since 2001, violent incidents have now dropped 13.4%.

Violence flared slightly more in the South than in other regions of the country, according to the FBI statistics.

In other violent crime categories, aggravated assaults were down 4.1%, rape declined 5%, and robbery dropped 10%.

In non-violent crimes, the FBI said property crime declined 2.7%. Both auto theft and arson were down more than 7%.

http://m.cnn.com/primary/_4RmqdJ-iHHgblQr2Pv
So since the south has the most states with the castle law and is the most liberal in their issuance of CC permits why is there more violent crime down there than in the north? Shouldn't the whole stand your ground cowboy thing make the place safer?

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Macbeth wrote:

Violent crime in the United States declined 6% last year, according to statistics compiled by the FBI and released Monday.

Despite difficult economic conditions, the 2010 figures show a continuing decline in violent incidents nationwide, which have been dropping annually since 2006.
...
Since 2001, violent incidents have now dropped 13.4%.

Violence flared slightly more in the South than in other regions of the country, according to the FBI statistics.

In other violent crime categories, aggravated assaults were down 4.1%, rape declined 5%, and robbery dropped 10%.

In non-violent crimes, the FBI said property crime declined 2.7%. Both auto theft and arson were down more than 7%.

http://m.cnn.com/primary/_4RmqdJ-iHHgblQr2Pv
So since the south has the most states with the castle law and is the most liberal in their issuance of CC permits why is there more violent crime down there than in the north? Shouldn't the whole stand your ground cowboy thing make the place safer?

hmmm. It's almost as if violent crime is higher in places with higher poverty, and that won't change no matter how many guns there are and who is using them.

Criminals rarely think ahead and consider consequences. If you are desperate enough to do a home invasion you're probably not in a frame of mind that allows you to contemplate such complexities, like the castle law. I don't think the Castle law is there primarily as a deterrent.

Kmar wrote:

Criminals rarely think ahead and consider consequences. If you are desperate enough to do a home invasion you're probably not in a frame of mind that allows you to contemplate such complexities, like the castle law. I don't think the Castle law is there primarily as a deterrent.

I agree with this, but it is of course, a generalization. I do believe there are people out there who would steal or commit other crimes under the right circumstances, but refuse to do so for their own safety.

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