Blokes in the IT industry...

2011-07-30 06:53:53

#1

Camm: Feeding the Cats.; +761|5158|Dundee, Scotland.

I need a word of advice.

I'm going back to college after the summer to my HND in Software Development, but I've found a Modern Apprenticeship in pretty much THE area I want to work in, here's the link:

http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSearch/JobD … recision=3

Now, I'm going to apply for it, as this is a great first step for me to get into the industry, if I get it, and complete it, I'll have Microsoft certifications, amongst other, which I wouldn't get at college.

How good an entry into the world of IT is this?

for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.

2011-07-30 10:23:56

#2

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6927|Oxferd Ohire

is anyone on bf2s even in IT?

2011-07-30 10:41:30

#3

lrishpride: Member; +68|5338

i play bf2

2011-07-30 10:52:16

#4

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6861|UK

sonder does this type of work, prob best to ask him

jsnipy/chuy/oh are lean more to dev

i am it consultant so that no tech stuff like strategy/performance/security and those qualification wont help.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2011-07-30 10:59:51

#5

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6882

I would try to do school and this job at the same time. A degree with good grades will open up opportunities for promotion or a better employer. A friend of mine recently got her CIS degree from a decent school in Mass. Straight out of school she got a job at Microsoft. But she's much more intelligent than you, Camm.

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2011-07-30 11:05:04

#6

Microwave: _; +515|6845|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Microsoft certs have limited value, work experience in a tech company doing tech kinda work is what you want.

2011-07-30 11:08:17

#7

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6687

RTHKI wrote:
is anyone on bf2s even in IT?

seriously?

2011-07-30 11:15:36

#8

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6927|Oxferd Ohire

burnzz i knew you were tech but forgot what exactly

2011-07-30 11:22:05

#9

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6687

technically, i'm not. to answer the OP, i may not be the best person to ask right now.

experience > college degree > certs, but honestly all 3 don't guarantee a job. all three do guarantee you will have your resume looked at.
Knowing someone > experience > college degree > certs is the best way to get in.

2011-07-30 11:33:11

#10

SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6849|The darkside of Denver

13urnzz wrote:
technically, i'm not. to answer the OP, i may not be the best person to ask right now.

experience > college degree > certs, but honestly all 3 don't guarantee a job. all three do guarantee you will have your resume looked at.
Knowing someone > experience > college degree > certs is the best way to get in.

This. Stay in school cam. Work on the certs while your obtaining experience after school.

2011-07-30 11:33:46

#11

tazz.: oz.; +1,338|6364|Sydney | ♥

I'm doing an IT degree now. Reaps finished one too afaik

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2011-07-30 11:53:18

#12

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6965|Moscow, Russia

13urnzz wrote:
technically, i'm not. to answer the OP, i may not be the best person to ask right now.

experience > college degree > certs, but honestly all 3 don't guarantee a job. all three do guarantee you will have your resume looked at.
Knowing someone > experience > college degree > certs is the best way to get in.

^this.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-07-30 12:00:37

#13

justice: OctoPoster; +978|6931|OctoLand

* Gentlemen of the IT industry

I know fucking karate

2011-07-30 12:07:15

#14

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justice wrote:
* Gentlemen of the IT industry

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2011-07-30 14:31:15

#15

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6601|'Murka

Certs are going to be expected, degree or not. The degree (and performance getting it) will get you a leg up over someone without a degree. And remember, you'll still be getting the certs later, regardless.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
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2011-07-30 15:17:15

#16

Camm: Feeding the Cats.; +761|5158|Dundee, Scotland.

Thing you guys dont understand is the qualifications i'll get. I'm at your equivelant of community college cause i fucked about at school. No degree for me for at least 6 years if i go to uni.

Should i take the apprenticeship now, or get my hnd (nowhere near degree level) and then go for a job.

for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.

2011-07-30 15:23:52

#17

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6839

Work experience is always best if you ask me. I'd go for it, HND isn't worth shit.

2011-07-30 16:09:33

#18

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5891|College Park, MD

Camm wrote:
Thing you guys dont understand is the qualifications i'll get. I'm at your equivelant of community college cause i fucked about at school. No degree for me for at least 6 years if i go to uni.

Should i take the apprenticeship now, or get my hnd (nowhere near degree level) and then go for a job.

are you studying part time?

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2011-07-30 16:29:49

#19

Camm: Feeding the Cats.; +761|5158|Dundee, Scotland.

Full time study.

I'm gonna go for it.

for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.

2011-07-30 17:53:12

#20

SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6849|The darkside of Denver

The degree with those certs will get you off the helpdesk faster. MCTS and A+ are nice to have, but I feel my degree is what sets me apart.

2011-07-30 19:01:21

#21

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6961|PNW

SonderKommando wrote:
The degree with those certs will get you off the helpdesk faster. MCTS and A+ are nice to have, but I feel my degree is what sets me apart.

Yup.

Certs are a great plus, but the degree also impresses. Also, A+ is Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me...

2011-07-30 19:03:14

#22

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6343|what

I say go for the degree, but only because the degree can get you a job in other countries and is pretty well recognised as a higher standard that this apprenticeship. From the job description, they were pretty vague on what you would be doing exactly. It could be data entry for all you know. Maybe apply for the job and ask all the serious questions about the role, training, etc and see what you walk away with after the interview.

Upon completion, apprentices will be qualified in the following areas:

Microsoft Certification Technical Specialist (MCTS)
CompTIA A+
City & Guild Diploma and Certificate
Essential Skills for Apprentices

You've said that a degree would take you 6 years, ask the university you're looking to apply to if any of the above could be applied towards credit. You could get lucky and cut the degree down to a 4 year course after finishing the apprenticeship and walk away with both.

2011-07-31 01:53:09

#23

BVC: Member; +325|6885

What to study depends on what you want to do. For server/networkey stuff I'd do MCSE (or whatever its called now), A+ and CCNA.

I did a computer science degree and spent a bit of my own time learning webstuff (PHP etc) and am currently doing web & android development.

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2011-07-31 03:04:56

#24

Camm: Feeding the Cats.; +761|5158|Dundee, Scotland.

If i go to college, it's not a degree I'm getting.

here:

HND

I'm going to apply for it, because I can then make a decision based upon whether I get accepted or not. The only deciding factor if I get it is - more money if I go to college as I'll get a student loan. I'm in the position where I'll enjoy either, I can't wait to go back to college, because I had a blast last year doing what I did, but if I go for the app'ship then I'll be in th industry

for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.

2011-07-31 04:09:38

#25

Jasp: Bongabilla; +171|6852|The Outer Circle

ghettoperson wrote:
HND isn't worth shit.

Er.. yeah ok.

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