ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
They are a bunch that needs a serious attitude adjustment.

I have been in business eleven years, and I have learned certain pattern from certain types of behavior from certain groups of people;
Asians usually pay in cash and their families are likely to use you as well; good. Indians are likely to have you bid a neighbors house, negotiate a group discount and then only have the smaller of the group done and cancel the other; bad. Arabs are going to ask you to do it cheaper than you write it the first time, so you start high and negotiate down to where you need to be; workable. Average Joes just want to go with whom they like the best and price ( pre-crash ) wasn't the biggest factor, price was secondary to trust.


Fire fighters are the absolute worst people to work for.

They always cry poverty and play on sympathy to get a cut throat deal. They are likely to expect you to jump through extra hoops and nit-pick you to death, while crying about every penny.

brother of friend who is a fire-fighter wrote:

" Why should I save money, I am a government worker and I will never get fired ( the context of the discussion was why the dumb ass spent every dime he did. If he got $250.00, he went and spent $250.00 ). I have a 90% pension, I work half the days in the week.
He has a boat, motorcycles and a sand rail. A lot of these douchebags have side businesses because they spent half their time in station having cooking contests and surfing the Internet. He does two weeks on 24/7 and three weeks off. 90k per year excluding his awesome tax payer funded healthcare and overtime.



Meanwhile the private sector is being put into a massive meat grinder.

My friends Mike and Kim and their two young children are packing to move today as they got the 60 day notice to vacate and their house is in foreclosure. They have no place to go. I have a homeless person living in my shop. My friend Dewy lost his truck. My friends Scott, Rick and James are all in  pre-foreclosure. I am squeezed beyond belief myself and if things don't turn in the next six months I will run out of gas.

There is the government workers reality, and there is everybody elses.
When the only people in our country who have security is government workers we are on the fast track to complete meltdown as we, the poverty stricken pay their salaries. Companies are in freefall here, commercial properties sit vacate for over a year, there are no jobs.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6939

Sounds like you should all join the fire department.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6910|London, England
lol, I like how you start off with different races. And then just scrap it and start on the Firefighters. I gotta admit, I didn't see that one coming
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
Also, when I do government contracts they dictate how much I have to pay my workers which is on average three times normal. ( this was when i had workers )

That means the tax payer always pays three times fair market value, in my experience.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5875

A bunch of good kids I grew up with can't afford to go college and the government won't help too busy paying for israel and welfare. I will tell them to join the fire department.
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6858|Mountains of NC

you need to get out of cali - I know its easier said then done and the whole starting over in a new area = no profit for a new business for the 1st couple of years but copper gutters have become increasly popular in my area and I think theres only 2 businesses that cover that market and they blanket a 10 county spread
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6868|Columbus, OH
I remember way back when I was taking a criminal justice class in high school, the police officers said to the class, "if you want an easy job, become a fire fighter.....those guys do not work as hard as we do" Words of Wisdom
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6971|Disaster Free Zone
So what you're saying is firefighters are keeping whats left of the economy going?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
Nope, I'm saying they take too much and have contempt for you.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7006
A bunch of TSA people came to a bar where i bounced... They were the biggest bunch of idiots i have ever met...
I previously had felt safe thinking they were in place to keep us safe... and after i met a bunch of them my mind was changed...
a whole lot of paycheck collecting, that's not my job idiots...
Love is the answer
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6939

ATG wrote:

Nope, I'm saying they take too much and have contempt for you.
As long as they pull me out of fires, I don't really give a shit.

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

A bunch of TSA people came to a bar where i bounced... They were the biggest bunch of idiots i have ever met...
I previously had felt safe thinking they were in place to keep us safe... and after i met a bunch of them my mind was changed...
a whole lot of paycheck collecting, that's not my job idiots...
It does strike me as the kind of job that attracts power hungry douchebags.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6961|UK
7 is going to facepalm and curse in your general direction when he reads this.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6831|Texas - Bigger than France
When the local economy begins to shrink, usually the only jobs available are government, defense or quasi-government jobs (like supporting a university).  Oh, and cutting each other's hair and giving each other tatoos.

The choices are to figure out how to attract a new industry to your area, or to move.

Moving is the shorter of the two options.  Trust me, you don't want to be the last people left in town if you can't compete globally to attract new business.

Good luck - California is not usually listed as one of the top business-friendly states.
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6040|شمال

ATG wrote:

Arabs are going to ask you to do it cheaper than you write it the first time, so you start high and negotiate down to where you need to be; workable.
Nice to hear
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6808|Montucky
Alex you have a severe problem of taking the fuckups in California and making it seem as if its everybody, everywhere.


and I'm a Government Worker. 




So you can kiss my Ass.

Last edited by S3v3N (2009-07-24 12:46:34)

Red Forman
Banned
+402|5690

S3v3N wrote:

So you can kiss my Ass.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
The federal government is over budget 70 times the amount of California, so we can all kiss each others ass. 


Off topic, rest in peace to the border patrol agent executed today by mexican smugglers. I will await Obamas comments on that.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7009|California

ATG wrote:

The federal government is over budget 70 times the amount of California, so we can all kiss each others ass. 


Off topic, rest in peace to the border patrol agent executed today by mexican smugglers. I will await Obamas comments on that.
Budget =/= money.

and lol @ firefigher joke, because its true (for the most part)

I dont understand why they nickel and dime, but the firefighers that are actually federally controlled get paid shit
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6964|Canberra, AUS
If so then your public service needs a good hard kick to the balls.

That shit would never fly over here.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5900|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)
My mom is a Federal Employee, Postal Clerk(mail sorter) makes $60k, good health insurance & ok retirement. She does the jobs of 3-4 people in her office.

My dad, on the other hand, has worked in auto wrecking for his entire life(30+ years), makes $40k, no benefits, no retirement, 1 week sick leave, 5 days vacation. He hasn't had a raise in nearly my entire life, last one was 10-15 years ago. He has only had 1 job ever after high school.

Many of the people my mom works with are assholes.

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