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2009-04-16 07:24:48
PureFodder
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Tbh lowing ... you guys have some epic laws also

Alabama: Incestuous marriages are legal.
Alabama: Putting salt on a railroad track may be punishable by death.

Florida: When having sex, only the missionary position is legal.
Florida: Oral sex is illegal.
Florida: You may not kiss your wife’s breasts.

http://www.dumblaws.com/
Yup and we give these idiotic laws its just due. We laugh at it. Kinda hard to laugh at what Islam allows as legal, for me anyway, how about you?
I haven't gone through the entire US constitution but I'm sure something horrid could be found there also ... it's your fascination with Muslims and misinterpretations of their traditions and laws that makes me smile ...
What percentage of a free person does a slave count as in the US?

Why haven't they amended that bit out yet, I can't see why anyone would object to removing that line?
2009-04-16 11:00:20
Beduin
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I sure hope there are people out there that can see what this guy lowing is setting up here is pure bs.
I also hope that people will look around and observe how many muslim men married to an 8 years old child, or how many muslim fathers will allow his child to get married at that young age.

lowing says himself that he has no knowledge of Islam, so what he claims here, can not be used by anyone, unless they are dumbfucks that has 0 experience in life.
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2009-04-16 11:40:13
lowing
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Beduin wrote:

I sure hope there are people out there that can see what this guy lowing is setting up here is pure bs.
I also hope that people will look around and observe how many muslim men married to an 8 years old child, or how many muslim fathers will allow his child to get married at that young age.

lowing says himself that he has no knowledge of Islam, so what he claims here, can not be used by anyone, unless they are dumbfucks that has 0 experience in life.
I am not setting up anything, I didn't write the article, and I am not the one interpreting Islamic law, Muslimleaders are doing that. Do not rag my ass because you can not defend their actions, or are ashamed of them.

You are correct, I have no first hand knowledge of Islam. Does this mean I can not form an opinion based on what I have read on Islam, what is reported on Islam, and what is done in the name of Islam? Are you actually saying I have to be a Muslim in order to have an opinion on Islam?

I have no first hand knowledge of child molestation either, because of this, based on your criteria, I am not allowed an opinion on the practice?

Last edited by lowing (2009-04-16 11:54:07)

2009-04-16 12:01:38
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
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Why do you care so much? fix your own country before you start stressing about another country's laws and regulations.
2009-04-16 12:04:51
Beduin
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lowing wrote:

I am not setting up anything, I didn't write the article, and I am not the one interpreting Islamic law, Muslimleaders are doing that. Do not rag my ass because you can not defend their actions, or are ashamed of them.

You are correct, I have no first hand knowledge of Islam. Does this mean I can not form an opinion based on what I have read on Islam, what is reported on Islam, and what is done in the name of Islam? Are you actually saying I have to be a Muslim in order to have an opinion on Islam?

I have no first hand knowledge of child molestation either, because of this, based on your criteria, I am not allowed an opinion on the practice?

Beduin wrote:

I sure hope there are people out there that can see what this guy lowing is setting up here is pure bs.
I also hope that people will look around and observe how many muslim men married to an 8 years old child, or how many muslim fathers will allow his child to get married at that young age.

lowing says himself that he has no knowledge of Islam, so what he claims here, can not be used by anyone, unless they are dumbfucks that has 0 experience in life.
Statement still valid.
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2009-04-16 12:19:34
lowing
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Beduin wrote:

lowing wrote:

I am not setting up anything, I didn't write the article, and I am not the one interpreting Islamic law, Muslimleaders are doing that. Do not rag my ass because you can not defend their actions, or are ashamed of them.

You are correct, I have no first hand knowledge of Islam. Does this mean I can not form an opinion based on what I have read on Islam, what is reported on Islam, and what is done in the name of Islam? Are you actually saying I have to be a Muslim in order to have an opinion on Islam?

I have no first hand knowledge of child molestation either, because of this, based on your criteria, I am not allowed an opinion on the practice?

Beduin wrote:

I sure hope there are people out there that can see what this guy lowing is setting up here is pure bs.
I also hope that people will look around and observe how many muslim men married to an 8 years old child, or how many muslim fathers will allow his child to get married at that young age.

lowing says himself that he has no knowledge of Islam, so what he claims here, can not be used by anyone, unless they are dumbfucks that has 0 experience in life.
Statement still valid.
LOL, so is mine
2009-04-16 12:21:30
lowing
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

Why do you care so much? fix your own country before you start stressing about another country's laws and regulations.
Stressed? Maybe you should g oback and read the posts, I am probably the only one who doesn't get "stressed".

Sure thing, we can make a rule that we can only post a thread or an opinion about our own countires.
2009-04-16 13:57:35
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
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lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

Why do you care so much? fix your own country before you start stressing about another country's laws and regulations.
Stressed? Maybe you should g oback and read the posts, I am probably the only one who doesn't get "stressed".

Sure thing, we can make a rule that we can only post a thread or an opinion about our own countires.
thats not what i posted. You and a couple ppl get very irate about muslim laws, when, in reality, its none of your business. Yeah i know it is horrible, i know it is unfair, in humane. but reality is, unless the people there do something about it, we can't do shit. They have centuries of culture surrounding these laws, so good luck on changing em.

We all know Islam is not the most peaceful religion, but if people here took the bible as literally as these muslims do, it would be just as bad...
2009-04-16 14:09:53
lowing
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

Why do you care so much? fix your own country before you start stressing about another country's laws and regulations.
Stressed? Maybe you should g oback and read the posts, I am probably the only one who doesn't get "stressed".

Sure thing, we can make a rule that we can only post a thread or an opinion about our own countires.
thats not what i posted. You and a couple ppl get very irate about muslim laws, when, in reality, its none of your business. Yeah i know it is horrible, i know it is unfair, in humane. but reality is, unless the people there do something about it, we can't do shit. They have centuries of culture surrounding these laws, so good luck on changing em.

We all know Islam is not the most peaceful religion, but if people here took the bible as literally as these muslims do, it would be just as bad...
Actually that is exactly what you posted, and no, I rarely get "irate" about anything in my posts. I do not even get "irate", or retaliate, when I am personally attacked by all of you open minded, peace loving, tolerant people.
2009-04-16 14:36:32
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
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Well you consistently post about islam and similar stuff, which i misconstrue as you getting irate, obsessed, stressed. But if you say that you arent, I'll take your word for it.
2009-04-16 14:50:29
lowing
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

Well you consistently post about islam and similar stuff, which i misconstrue as you getting irate, obsessed, stressed. But if you say that you arent, I'll take your word for it.
Do you actually get the impression that I am irate, or stressed when you read my posts? I kinda thought I maintained a relatively level head especially compared with those that post against me. Really how often do you read me insulting anyone or personally attacking anyone with name calling?
2009-04-16 14:55:20
destruktion_6143
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lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

Well you consistently post about islam and similar stuff, which i misconstrue as you getting irate, obsessed, stressed. But if you say that you arent, I'll take your word for it.
Do you actually get the impression that I am irate, or stressed when you read my posts? I kinda thought I maintained a relatively level head especially compared with those that post against me. Really how often do you read me insulting anyone or personally attacking anyone with name calling?

destruktion_6143 wrote:

But if you say that you arent, I'll take your word for it.
I just acknowledged you not being irate, stressed, ect....but yet you keep at it.

If you dont get angry, stressed or anything on these forums, let this go bc i just agreed with you.
2009-04-16 15:03:12
lowing
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

lowing wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

Well you consistently post about islam and similar stuff, which i misconstrue as you getting irate, obsessed, stressed. But if you say that you arent, I'll take your word for it.
Do you actually get the impression that I am irate, or stressed when you read my posts? I kinda thought I maintained a relatively level head especially compared with those that post against me. Really how often do you read me insulting anyone or personally attacking anyone with name calling?

destruktion_6143 wrote:

But if you say that you arent, I'll take your word for it.
I just acknowledged you not being irate, stressed, ect....but yet you keep at it.

If you dont get angry, stressed or anything on these forums, let this go bc i just agreed with you.
in all fairness, you didn't "agree with me" ( until now) you were merely "taking my word for it", as if to say, "yeah right, whatever you say". Big difference.
2009-04-16 15:14:15
Ottomania
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Wahabis own interpretation of Sharia law doesnt mean that they understand Quran truely. Me personally as a Sunni believe that other branches of Islam are not true and whom belongs to them is on the wrong way. Wahabis are total extremists. Whatever they have done should not be considered as all Muslim's perspective. Child molestation is not supported and encouraged by Islam.
2009-04-16 15:25:31
lowing
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Ottomania wrote:

Wahabis own interpretation of Sharia law doesnt mean that they understand Quran truely. Me personally as a Sunni believe that other branches of Islam are not true and whom belongs to them is on the wrong way. Wahabis are total extremists. Whatever they have done should not be considered as all Muslim's perspective. Child molestation is not supported and encouraged by Islam.
I can appreciate that, but lets face it, like it or not, you follow the writtings and teachings of a child molester and a murder, and recognize him as a messenger of God, as the basis for a religion. Ain't no denying that.
2009-04-16 15:32:38
CameronPoe
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lowing wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Wahabis own interpretation of Sharia law doesnt mean that they understand Quran truely. Me personally as a Sunni believe that other branches of Islam are not true and whom belongs to them is on the wrong way. Wahabis are total extremists. Whatever they have done should not be considered as all Muslim's perspective. Child molestation is not supported and encouraged by Islam.
I can appreciate that, but lets face it, like it or not, you follow the writtings and teachings of a child molester and a murder, and recognize him as a messenger of God, as the basis for a religion. Ain't no denying that.
Otto - lowing doesn't understand that 1400 years ago it was perfectly acceptable among people of all faiths to engage in carnal relations with females that had begun menstruating and that the world was a violent place where people had to fight to ensure their survival and security. He can't divorce these elements of the reality of the times from the peaceful preachings that you are probably intimately aware of. Please don't take offence. He is only interested in forcing his interpretation of the Quran on you, or those sections of which turn up in a Google search of 'Quran Molest Kill'. We can't have moderate Muslims like you upsetting his warped and entrenched world view now can we?

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2009-04-16 15:51:32
m3thod
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lowing wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Wahabis own interpretation of Sharia law doesnt mean that they understand Quran truely. Me personally as a Sunni believe that other branches of Islam are not true and whom belongs to them is on the wrong way. Wahabis are total extremists. Whatever they have done should not be considered as all Muslim's perspective. Child molestation is not supported and encouraged by Islam.
I can appreciate that, but lets face it, like it or not, you follow the writtings and teachings of a child molester and a murder, and recognize him as a messenger of God, as the basis for a religion. Ain't no denying that.
Your continued insistence on comparing accepted practise from the 6th century with the 21 century is a joke.  You go back far enough you'll find the barbarians that share the blood in your veins were also gangbanging 6 year olds.

Your own history isn't so clean.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
2009-04-16 16:52:00
lowing
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To both of you,

I am not interpreting anything. Islam's highests Imam's and Sharia Law experts ( people far more knowledgeable on Islam than I)  have determained right and wrong for the 21st century, and child slavery/molestaton is considered OFFICIALLY amongst the right. Regardless if some Muslims agree with it or not, the religion has spoken and the practice is acceptable.
2009-04-16 17:07:40
Braddock
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So is lowing right in saying all Islamic countries throughout the Middle East and beyond have legalised the marriage and slavery of children... Kosovo? Jordan? Albania? Iran? Indonesia? Egypt? Secular Turkey? Or is it just backwards-ass countries like Saudi Arabia that have decided to interpret ancient books a certain way without taking into account modern day attitudes?

Whether you like it or not, and whether these other countries have Shariah law or not, they are still Muslim countries and the Muslims that inhabit these countries and the way in which they live their lives have as much to with Islam as the archaic bloodlust contained in the ancient texts that you always seem so preoccupied with.
2009-04-16 17:13:04
FatherTed
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Quick quesiton, who the fuck are we to decide or judge how people live their lives?
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2009-04-16 17:14:39
Macbeth
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FatherTed wrote:

Quick quesiton, who the fuck are we to decide or judge how people live their lives?
Nobody really. There is the problem instead of trying to figure this people out and work with them lets just shit all over their culture and life styles.
2009-04-16 17:19:36
13/f/taiwan
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Lowing when will you stop being such a redneck.
2009-04-16 18:01:00
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lowing wrote:

Now I thought I was just in a discussion  today, where it was argued by the pro Islamic folks, that child molestation was just for ancient times and "everyone did it back then", so I shouldn't knock Muhammed for doing it.

Then I read this?  http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html


Sounds like child molestation is alive and well in Islamic culture. Oh well so much for that argument. Muhammad would be proud to know his traditions are alive and well in the 21st century under his beloved peaceful Islam
This is against Islam actually.
What you see in the media isn't about Islam, its their corrupted culture that they lived and were brought up in.
There's a difference between culture and religion.

Prophet Muhammad (saas) Definitively did not ever do any child molestation of any kind at any time and would never of approved this. If you think otherwise, its blasphemy.

In fact under proper Islamic Law, i believe those who molest children are stoned to death.
2009-04-16 20:26:14
Flecco
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{B-T}<babacanosh> wrote:

lowing wrote:

Now I thought I was just in a discussion  today, where it was argued by the pro Islamic folks, that child molestation was just for ancient times and "everyone did it back then", so I shouldn't knock Muhammed for doing it.

Then I read this?  http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html


Sounds like child molestation is alive and well in Islamic culture. Oh well so much for that argument. Muhammad would be proud to know his traditions are alive and well in the 21st century under his beloved peaceful Islam
This is against Islam actually.
What you see in the media isn't about Islam, its their corrupted culture that they lived and were brought up in.
There's a difference between culture and religion.

Prophet Muhammad (saas) Definitively did not ever do any child molestation of any kind at any time and would never of approved this. If you think otherwise, its blasphemy.

In fact under proper Islamic Law, i believe those who molest children are stoned to death.
Qft. A History of Honor (good book with some interesting perspectives on things) points this out at the very start when discussing Islam.


Islam got attached to the primitive honor cultures of the various tribes in the middle East/central Asia, not the other way around.

Btw lowing, a few years back there a woman got gang raped by the local tribal elders in regional Pakistan to punish her brother for supposedly raping another woman. The true story was that the brother, a fairly young boy, got gang raped, threatened to expose it, so they accused him of raping one of the rapist's sisters. End result was that the girl got raped as a punishment to the young boy for supposedly violating the honour of another woman.

When the sentence was passed down by the elders, just before they committed the rather disgusting act, she invoked the Qur'an and asked them to stop. They continued. When the story was publicised the local Imam got involved. He ended up presiding over a Sharia court dealing with the rapists.


They were all sentenced to death for breaking Islamic Holy Law. After two appeals in Pakistani courts the sentence was upheld and the rapists were executed. The girl went from considering suicide due to dishonour and shame she felt over the incident to ending up happily married and a bit of a local celebrity for speaking out about the injustice she faced.

Last edited by Flecco (2009-04-16 20:28:13)

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
2009-04-16 20:36:44
Scorpion0x17
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cba to read all 250 posts...

Has anyone pointed out that the article linked to in the OP does not mention any kind of 'molestation' at all - only a 'marriage'?

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