The speed of light...

2009-02-26 14:02:35

#1

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6724|South Florida

Why does one assume the speed of light is the absolute fastest speed possible, simply because its the fastest we can see?

If the entire race of humans evolved with sonar instead of vision, would we assume the speed of sound is the fastest available? Since we would have no idea of what light is.

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2009-02-26 14:07:18

#2

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6699|so randum

Mitch wrote:
Why does one assume the speed of light is the absolute fastest speed possible, simply because its the fastest we can see?

If the entire race of humans evolved with sonar instead of vision, would we assume the speed of sound is the fastest available? Since we would have no idea of what light is.

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2009-02-26 14:11:32

#3

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|5963|Belgium

Cause Einstein said so :x

2009-02-26 14:13:08

#4

gnot<3: Leave blank to use forum default.; +45|5753

just cuz

2009-02-26 14:13:53

#5

hawaythelads: We are PREMIER LEAGUE!; +84|6685|Newcastle Upon Tyne.

would we be able to calculate speed or distance without Vision?

2009-02-26 14:14:32

#6

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They calculated and measured light speed to be the same for all observers, even when they are moving relative to the light source.
Einstein showed that the existence of such a constant speed leads to the conclusion that this speed is the highest possible speed.
And why is it exacly light´s speed? Because light (a photon) has no mass; no matter how small the amount of energy you give it, it will run away as fast as possible.

2009-02-26 14:18:04

#7

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6699|so randum

hawaythelads wrote:
would we be able to calculate speed or distance without Vision?

depends on what you class as 'vision'

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2009-02-26 14:20:01

#8

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6724|South Florida

mafia996630 wrote:
They calculated and measured light speed to be the same for all observers, even when they are moving relative to the light source.
Einstein showed that the existence of such a constant speed leads to the conclusion that this speed is the highest possible speed.
And why is it exacly light´s speed? Because light (a photon) has no mass; no matter how small the amount of energy you give it, it will run away as fast as possible.

Right but is it fair to assume that we can ever create a "total theory" of the universe if we cannot see past the 3rd dimension? Theory's talking about 11 demensions, isn't that like target practice with a blindfold?

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2009-02-26 14:20:51

#9

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5987|Catherine Black

The only thing faster than the speed of light was me manning the harpoons when you posted pics of your ex.

2009-02-26 14:22:09

#10

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6831

Finray wrote:
The only thing faster than the speed of light was me manning the harpoons when you posted pics of your ex.

Same goes for your current.

2009-02-26 14:22:32

#11

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6724|South Florida

FatherTed wrote:
hawaythelads wrote:
would we be able to calculate speed or distance without Vision?
depends on what you class as 'vision'

The eye picking up photons and producing a picture as it does today

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2009-02-26 14:22:57

#12

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6699|so randum

Finray wrote:
The only thing faster than the speed of light was me manning the harpoons when you posted pics of your ex.

Theoretically, you need infinite mass and energy to go the speed of light.

So you just called yourself a massive fatass

/scienceburn

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2009-02-26 14:24:25

#13

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5987|Catherine Black

Gooners wrote:
Finray wrote:
The only thing faster than the speed of light was me manning the harpoons when you posted pics of your ex.
Same goes for your current.

Manning harpoons = chick is fat.

Jenni =/= fat.

@Ted, anything going the speed of light would have infinate mass. Theory of Relativity, look it up some time.

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2009-02-26 14:24:35

#14

Beduin: Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid; +510|5949|شمال

We don't know as much as we want to think we know
But we know we have to observe and assume to be able to gain knowledge.
Thats how it works imo.

Unless someone, someday, discover a speed higher than the speed of light.

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2009-02-26 14:25:07

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Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6724|South Florida

FatherTed wrote:
Finray wrote:
The only thing faster than the speed of light was me manning the harpoons when you posted pics of your ex.
Theoretically, you need infinite mass and energy to go the speed of light.

So you just called yourself a massive fatass

/scienceburn

or zero mass, as appearently a photon has?

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2009-02-26 14:25:53

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FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6699|so randum

Mitch wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
hawaythelads wrote:
would we be able to calculate speed or distance without Vision?
depends on what you class as 'vision'
The eye picking up photons and producing a picture as it does today

bats seem to cope quite well

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2009-02-26 14:26:35

#17

mkxiii: online bf2s mek evasion; +509|6435|Uk

it has nothing to do with the fact that we use light to see

at all

2009-02-26 14:27:12

#18

Beduin: Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid; +510|5949|شمال

Mitch wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
Finray wrote:
The only thing faster than the speed of light was me manning the harpoons when you posted pics of your ex.
Theoretically, you need infinite mass and energy to go the speed of light.

So you just called yourself a massive fatass

/scienceburn
or zero mass, as appearently a photon has?

I remember it as "we dont know, but we assume it has no mass" issue ?

الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
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2009-02-26 14:27:35

#19

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6940|FUCK UBISOFT

Mitch wrote:
Why does one assume the speed of light is the absolute fastest speed possible, simply because its the fastest we can see?

we don't.

2009-02-26 14:28:04

#20

Mitch wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
They calculated and measured light speed to be the same for all observers, even when they are moving relative to the light source.
Einstein showed that the existence of such a constant speed leads to the conclusion that this speed is the highest possible speed.
And why is it exacly light´s speed? Because light (a photon) has no mass; no matter how small the amount of energy you give it, it will run away as fast as possible.
Right but is it fair to assume that we can ever create a "total theory" of the universe if we cannot see past the 3rd dimension? Theory's talking about 11 demensions, isn't that like target practice with a blindfold?

Never say never if that "ever" was suppose to be a never.

That 11th dimension video was too hardcore for me. Also imagine how fuked time dilation would be if you could go faster then light ?

2009-02-26 14:30:32

#21

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6724|South Florida

FatherTed wrote:
Mitch wrote:
FatherTed wrote:

depends on what you class as 'vision'
The eye picking up photons and producing a picture as it does today
bats seem to cope quite well

Indeed they do, but if the entire human race evolved with a batlike sonar, and no eyes, would they form the idea that sound is the fastest thing around.

What im getting at, is just because light is the fastest thing we can measure, does that mean something else doesn't exist?

As a bat what the speed of light is, he'll say 'whats light, all i know is sound'

Ask a human what the speed of *nameforexampleenergy* is, he'll ask whats that i only know light

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2009-02-26 14:31:26

#22

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6940|FUCK UBISOFT

Mitch wrote:
As a bat what the speed of light is, he'll say 'whats light, all i know is sound'

That's one smart fucking bat.

2009-02-26 14:32:12

#23

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6724|South Florida

mafia996630 wrote:
Mitch wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

Right but is it fair to assume that we can ever create a "total theory" of the universe if we cannot see past the 3rd dimension? Theory's talking about 11 demensions, isn't that like target practice with a blindfold?
Never say never if that "ever" was suppose to be a never.

That 11th dimension video was too hardcore for me. Also imagine how fuked time dilation would be if you could go faster then light ?

I meant 'ever' not never,
let me say it differently,

how can we expect to create a total theory...

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2009-02-26 14:40:16

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mkxiii wrote:
it has nothing to do with the fact that we use light to see

at all

2009-02-26 14:42:59

#25

Mitch wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Mitch wrote:
Right but is it fair to assume that we can ever create a "total theory" of the universe if we cannot see past the 3rd dimension? Theory's talking about 11 demensions, isn't that like target practice with a blindfold?
Never say never if that "ever" was suppose to be a never.

That 11th dimension video was too hardcore for me. Also imagine how fuked time dilation would be if you could go faster then light ?
I meant 'ever' not never,
let me say it differently,

how can we expect to create a total theory...

I would have thought, a "Total theory" is never possible because science evolves and so do theories. For example, if we reach the 11th dimension then someone will probz come up with a theory for the 12th, etc.

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