A student of biology would be more fit for this discussion than a student of weapons.
Edited to make it more appropriate to the persons job.I'm Jamesey wrote:
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.Parker wrote:
k, well its been fun arguing with a high schooler about knife wounds, but i have to go to work......you know, making knives
If you make car tyres does that mean you know exactly how long it'd for the car to stop once the brake are applied?
edited to make it more appropriate to parker's jobjord wrote:
Edited to make it more appropriate to the persons job.I'm Jamesey wrote:
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.Parker wrote:
k, well its been fun arguing with a high schooler about knife wounds, but i have to go to work......you know, making knives
If you make car tyres in your own home does that mean you know exactly how long it'd for the car to stop once the brake are applied?
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I don't get it, did you edit it or what?I'm Jamesey wrote:
edited to make it more appropriate to parker's jobjord wrote:
Edited to make it more appropriate to the persons job.I'm Jamesey wrote:
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.
If you make car tyres in your own home does that mean you know exactly how long it'd for the car to stop once the brake are applied?
In this context either would work. IE, if you major in chemistry you need to know a good deal of physics that is applied to chemistry. However, just because you don't know everything about physics and are not a physicist doesn't mean the knowledge you have of the physics applied to chemistry is moot.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
A student of biology would be more fit for this discussion than a student of weapons.
However, if you want to ask a doctor to verify the chart I suggest you go on right ahead.
Though if it means anything to you, the thread has probably ran it's course, I don't think we're talking about Canadian buses anymore.
Sadly I agree. If anyone wants to post something on topic I will leave it open, but no more about wounds.Defiance wrote:
In this context either would work. IE, if you major in chemistry you need to know a good deal of physics that is applied to chemistry. However, just because you don't know everything about physics and are not a physicist doesn't mean the knowledge you have of the physics applied to chemistry is moot.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
A student of biology would be more fit for this discussion than a student of weapons.
However, if you want to ask a doctor to verify the chart I suggest you go on right ahead.
Though if it means anything to you, the thread has probably ran it's course, I don't think we're talking about Canadian buses anymore.
so, anymore news on this nutter?
And just how do you know that?? You'd come to complete halt if you got stabbed in the spinal cord in your neck.God Save the Queen wrote:
I could get stabbed a few times before it slows me down.
Why aren't you supposed to give them water?God Save the Queen wrote:
just a good reminder. if you ever come across a stomach wound, lay the casualty on his back, touch as little of the exposed intestines as possible, cover with dressing and DO NOT give the casualty any water, no matter how much they want it.
Because it will just come out of their gut wounds and open them up more?
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It was an azn guy who killed himusmarine wrote:
so, anymore news on this nutter?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7537675.stmPolice have charged Vince Weiguang Li, 40, with second-degree murder.
Murderer:

Victim was a 22 year old who reminds me of ig:

ig stay away from canadian buses
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Will swell their stomach and intestines causing further pressure.Home wrote:
Why aren't you supposed to give them water?God Save the Queen wrote:
just a good reminder. if you ever come across a stomach wound, lay the casualty on his back, touch as little of the exposed intestines as possible, cover with dressing and DO NOT give the casualty any water, no matter how much they want it.
Because it will just come out of their gut wounds and open them up more?
some british teenager got decapitated by her boy friend in Brazil(i think) too, wtf is wrong with people
http://www.watoday.com.au/world/british … -3o87.htmlSamTheMan:D wrote:
some british teenager got decapitated by her boy friend in Brazil(i think) too, wtf is wrong with people
yep thats the one`MetaL* wrote:
http://www.watoday.com.au/world/british … -3o87.htmlSamTheMan:D wrote:
some british teenager got decapitated by her boy friend in Brazil(i think) too, wtf is wrong with people
killed her, chopped her up, admitted to the murder and is now helping police find the rest of the body
thats nice of him!
stomach wounds, to my knowledge can cause extreme pain and torture, but is not the most effective way to kill a man as far as I know.
That's why most non-lethal martial arts moves are concentrated on the stomach, and the other abdominal area.
It's also where my martial artist teacher ( who served in the Korea marines for some time) punches me whenver he gives out a punishment. You feel like your stomach is being compressed, and the shock affects your solarplexus, causing further pain, and even lasts for a very long time, but does not cause long lasting damage, or other damage other than vomiting and sudden bowel/bladder release as long as you have moderately good abs. Dunno much about stabbing, though.
Anyway, it all boils down to bravery.
also, the person has to be trained very well with knife disarming, arm pressure points, and wrist control. And nut kicking abilities
Wrist contol, I believe can be the greatest factor in disarming.
That's why most non-lethal martial arts moves are concentrated on the stomach, and the other abdominal area.
It's also where my martial artist teacher ( who served in the Korea marines for some time) punches me whenver he gives out a punishment. You feel like your stomach is being compressed, and the shock affects your solarplexus, causing further pain, and even lasts for a very long time, but does not cause long lasting damage, or other damage other than vomiting and sudden bowel/bladder release as long as you have moderately good abs. Dunno much about stabbing, though.
Anyway, it all boils down to bravery.
also, the person has to be trained very well with knife disarming, arm pressure points, and wrist control. And nut kicking abilities
Wrist contol, I believe can be the greatest factor in disarming.
I also read that after decapitating the young man, he began to carve up his body and eat some flesh and muscle.
so, not only do you want to make a sad ass comparison, you want me to spoon feed you information?I'm Jamesey wrote:
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.Parker wrote:
k, well its been fun arguing with a high schooler about knife wounds, but i have to go to work......you know, making knives
If you make car tyres does that mean you know exactly how long it'd take to beat a man to death with said tyre?
lol, nope sorry. educate yourself, im not your fucking teacher.
but, hey please continue to argue WITH A KNIFE MAKER ABOUT KNIFE WOUNDS.
seriously, we are laughing our asses off on our break.
great entertainment!
the topic, stay on it now
I see what you're saying, but this is the wrong example, a tad bit extreme you might say. Just because someone doesn't try to stop someone else decapitating a corpse, doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them sensible and logical. He's already dead, and would have been dead within the first 10 stabs, giving you around 8 seconds, good luck.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
It's not worth giving up your life for someone who is already dead.
#rekt
Uncommon human decency, that's all I am asking from those people. It's understandable why these people didn't help, it's just not excusable. To take another extreme example, it's understandable why a spouse kills their spouse's lover, but that doesn't make it excusable.Mint Sauce wrote:
I see what you're saying, but this is the wrong example, a tad bit extreme you might say. Just because someone doesn't try to stop someone else decapitating a corpse, doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them sensible and logical. He's already dead, and would have been dead within the first 10 stabs, giving you around 8 seconds, good luck.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
It's not worth giving up your life for someone who is already dead.
It's not like I think they should be thrown in jail, it's just that it's not that someone was stabbed and decapitated on a bus, it's the fact that so many other people did nothing that really kills my faith in the goodness of humanity.
You are completely missing the practicalities and timing here. It was a seemingly unprovoked attack, so no one was expecting it, it was a frenzied stab attack, with what I would think would be around 2 stabs a second, maybe slower? The initial shock of others would ware off after say 5 seconds, then the thought process begins. By now he is already dead, after around 10 stab wounds, people realise there is nothing to do and just get out of there. Simple human instinct and thought process. Although i'm not debating what you say, i do agree, but in this situation, i disagree. If that makes senseFlaming_Maniac wrote:
Uncommon human decency, that's all I am asking from those people. It's understandable why these people didn't help, it's just not excusable. To take another extreme example, it's understandable why a spouse kills their spouse's lover, but that doesn't make it excusable.Mint Sauce wrote:
I see what you're saying, but this is the wrong example, a tad bit extreme you might say. Just because someone doesn't try to stop someone else decapitating a corpse, doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them sensible and logical. He's already dead, and would have been dead within the first 10 stabs, giving you around 8 seconds, good luck.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
It's not worth giving up your life for someone who is already dead.
It's not like I think they should be thrown in jail, it's just that it's not that someone was stabbed and decapitated on a bus, it's the fact that so many other people did nothing that really kills my faith in the goodness of humanity.
#rekt
We mostly agree. Honestly though, they should have done something anyways until they saw the head off. He's probably dead, but there is always a chance (people have gone through worse and lived), and at least keep the body from being maimed for the family.
It's not normal to risk your life for someone else's, let alone just to stop further decapitation. Your average person will run as far as they can. If it was normal they wouldn't hand out medals for bravery.
I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
