Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85
A student of biology would be more fit for this discussion than a student of weapons.
jord
Member
+2,382|7045|The North, beyond the wall.

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Parker wrote:

k, well its been fun arguing with a high schooler about knife wounds, but i have to go to work......you know, making knives
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.

If you make car tyres does that mean you know exactly how long it'd for the car to stop once the brake are applied?
Edited to make it more appropriate to the persons job.
I'm Jamesey
Do a Research Noob
+506|6500|Scotland!

jord wrote:

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Parker wrote:

k, well its been fun arguing with a high schooler about knife wounds, but i have to go to work......you know, making knives
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.

If you make car tyres in your own home does that mean you know exactly how long it'd for the car to stop once the brake are applied?
Edited to make it more appropriate to the persons job.
edited to make it more appropriate to parker's job

Last edited by I'm Jamesey (2008-08-01 11:20:29)

jord
Member
+2,382|7045|The North, beyond the wall.

I'm Jamesey wrote:

jord wrote:

I'm Jamesey wrote:


I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.

If you make car tyres in your own home does that mean you know exactly how long it'd for the car to stop once the brake are applied?
Edited to make it more appropriate to the persons job.
edited to make it more appropriate to parker's job
I don't get it, did you edit it or what?
Defiance
Member
+438|7038

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

A student of biology would be more fit for this discussion than a student of weapons.
In this context either would work. IE, if you major in chemistry you need to know a good deal of physics that is applied to chemistry. However, just because you don't know everything about physics and are not a physicist doesn't mean the knowledge you have of the physics applied to chemistry is moot.

However, if you want to ask a doctor to verify the chart I suggest you go on right ahead.

Though if it means anything to you, the thread has probably ran it's course, I don't think we're talking about Canadian buses anymore.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85

Defiance wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

A student of biology would be more fit for this discussion than a student of weapons.
In this context either would work. IE, if you major in chemistry you need to know a good deal of physics that is applied to chemistry. However, just because you don't know everything about physics and are not a physicist doesn't mean the knowledge you have of the physics applied to chemistry is moot.

However, if you want to ask a doctor to verify the chart I suggest you go on right ahead.

Though if it means anything to you, the thread has probably ran it's course, I don't think we're talking about Canadian buses anymore.
Sadly I agree. If anyone wants to post something on topic I will leave it open, but no more about wounds.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7129

so, anymore news on this nutter?
{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|7076|th3 unkn0wn

God Save the Queen wrote:

I could get stabbed a few times before it slows me down.
And just how do you know that?? You'd come to complete halt if you got stabbed in the spinal cord in your neck.
Home
Section.80
+447|7215|Seattle, Washington, USA

God Save the Queen wrote:

just a good reminder.  if you ever come across a stomach wound, lay the casualty on his back, touch as little of the exposed intestines as possible, cover with dressing and DO NOT give the casualty any water, no matter how much they want it.
Why aren't you supposed to give them water?

Because it will just come out of their gut wounds and open them up more?

Last edited by Home (2008-08-01 12:25:35)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6988|London, England

usmarine wrote:

so, anymore news on this nutter?
It was an azn guy who killed him

Police have charged Vince Weiguang Li, 40, with second-degree murder.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7537675.stm

Murderer:

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44884000/jpg/_44884611_aab2e44d-86df-4fc6-a513-b3982df51363.jpg

Victim was a 22 year old who reminds me of ig:

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44884000/jpg/_44884081_timmclean226.jpg


ig stay away from canadian buses

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-08-01 12:30:03)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7134|UK

Home wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

just a good reminder.  if you ever come across a stomach wound, lay the casualty on his back, touch as little of the exposed intestines as possible, cover with dressing and DO NOT give the casualty any water, no matter how much they want it.
Why aren't you supposed to give them water?

Because it will just come out of their gut wounds and open them up more?
Will swell their stomach and intestines causing further pressure.
`MetaL*
Just an ordinary guy, Looking for lulz.
+45|6122
Looks like the murderer was a cannibal also.


http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193490.php
SamTheMan:D
Banned
+856|6341|England

some british teenager got decapitated by her boy friend in Brazil(i think) too, wtf is wrong with people
`MetaL*
Just an ordinary guy, Looking for lulz.
+45|6122

SamTheMan:D wrote:

some british teenager got decapitated by her boy friend in Brazil(i think) too, wtf is wrong with people
http://www.watoday.com.au/world/british … -3o87.html
SamTheMan:D
Banned
+856|6341|England

`MetaL* wrote:

SamTheMan:D wrote:

some british teenager got decapitated by her boy friend in Brazil(i think) too, wtf is wrong with people
http://www.watoday.com.au/world/british … -3o87.html
yep thats the one

killed her, chopped her up, admitted to the murder and is now helping police find the rest of the body

thats nice of him!
thtthht
maximum bullshit
+50|6698|teh alien spaceshit
stomach wounds, to my knowledge can cause extreme pain and torture, but is not the most effective way to kill a man as far as I know.
That's why most non-lethal martial arts moves are concentrated on the stomach, and the other abdominal area.
It's also where my martial artist teacher ( who served in the Korea marines for some time) punches me whenver he gives out a punishment. You feel like your stomach is being compressed, and the shock affects your solarplexus, causing further pain, and even lasts for a very long time, but does not cause long lasting damage, or other damage other than vomiting and sudden bowel/bladder release as long as you have moderately good abs. Dunno much about stabbing, though.

Anyway, it all boils down to bravery.
also, the person has to be trained very well with knife disarming, arm pressure points, and wrist control. And nut kicking abilities
Wrist contol, I believe can be the greatest factor in disarming.
Ryan
Member
+1,230|7210|Alberta, Canada

I also read that after decapitating the young man, he began to carve up his body and eat some flesh and muscle.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6761|The Gem Saloon

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Parker wrote:

k, well its been fun arguing with a high schooler about knife wounds, but i have to go to work......you know, making knives
I've yet to see you prove you know anything about knife wounds as well, so far you've given a .jpg image and a vague reference to something I can't be bothered googling.

If you make car tyres does that mean you know exactly how long it'd take to beat a man to death with said tyre?
so, not only do you want to make a sad ass comparison, you want me to spoon feed you information?
lol, nope sorry. educate yourself, im not your fucking teacher.





but, hey please continue to argue WITH A KNIFE MAKER ABOUT KNIFE WOUNDS.
seriously, we are laughing our asses off on our break.
great entertainment!
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85
the topic, stay on it now
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6654|eng

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
I see what you're saying, but this is the wrong example, a tad bit extreme you might say. Just because someone doesn't try to stop someone else decapitating a corpse, doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them sensible and logical. He's already dead, and would have been dead within the first 10 stabs, giving you around 8 seconds, good luck.
It's not worth giving up your life for someone who is already dead.
#rekt
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85

Mint Sauce wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
I see what you're saying, but this is the wrong example, a tad bit extreme you might say. Just because someone doesn't try to stop someone else decapitating a corpse, doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them sensible and logical. He's already dead, and would have been dead within the first 10 stabs, giving you around 8 seconds, good luck.
It's not worth giving up your life for someone who is already dead.
Uncommon human decency, that's all I am asking from those people. It's understandable why these people didn't help, it's just not excusable. To take another extreme example, it's understandable why a spouse kills their spouse's lover, but that doesn't make it excusable.

It's not like I think they should be thrown in jail, it's just that it's not that someone was stabbed and decapitated on a bus, it's the fact that so many other people did nothing that really kills my faith in the goodness of humanity.
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6654|eng

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Mint Sauce wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

There is no crap about badassery, not from me anyways, just about being a decent fucking human being. A decent person doesn't watch someone else be decapitated and do nothing.
I see what you're saying, but this is the wrong example, a tad bit extreme you might say. Just because someone doesn't try to stop someone else decapitating a corpse, doesn't make them a bad person, it makes them sensible and logical. He's already dead, and would have been dead within the first 10 stabs, giving you around 8 seconds, good luck.
It's not worth giving up your life for someone who is already dead.
Uncommon human decency, that's all I am asking from those people. It's understandable why these people didn't help, it's just not excusable. To take another extreme example, it's understandable why a spouse kills their spouse's lover, but that doesn't make it excusable.

It's not like I think they should be thrown in jail, it's just that it's not that someone was stabbed and decapitated on a bus, it's the fact that so many other people did nothing that really kills my faith in the goodness of humanity.
You are completely missing the practicalities and timing here. It was a seemingly unprovoked attack, so no one was expecting it, it was a frenzied stab attack, with what I would think would be around 2 stabs a second, maybe slower? The initial shock of others would ware off after say 5 seconds, then the thought process begins. By now he is already dead, after around 10 stab wounds, people realise there is nothing to do and just get out of there. Simple human instinct and thought process. Although i'm not debating what you say, i do agree, but in this situation, i disagree. If that makes sense
#rekt
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7074|67.222.138.85
We mostly agree. Honestly though, they should have done something anyways until they saw the head off. He's probably dead, but there is always a chance (people have gone through worse and lived), and at least keep the body from being maimed for the family.
jord
Member
+2,382|7045|The North, beyond the wall.
It's not normal to risk your life for someone else's, let alone just to stop further decapitation. Your average person will run as far as they can. If it was normal they wouldn't hand out medals for bravery.
iNeedUrFace4Soup
fuck it
+348|6913
I'm sure lots of people wanted to help, but becoming victim number two or three isn't exactly helping.
https://i.imgur.com/jM2Yp.gif

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