Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK
**************UPDATE**************



Ok, guys...

My colleague at work is selling a Dell Dimension 4600 complete with peripherals for cheap.
I'm using a laptop and want a desktop cheap.  All good so far.

I can upgrade to 2gb ram and 400gb HDD at no cost. Even better.
My problem is - onboard gfx. I have a couple of AGP cards I can use, but my question is this:

Does the MoBo have a spare slot for a gfx card, and does it support AGP?

There's a whole spiel about spare slots on that specs page but I can't make head nor tails of it.


Just to head off any non-constructive - I don't need great specs, I can't afford to self build and I don't care about upgradeability further than stated above. This is merely a stop-gap rig.

Last edited by Buckles (2008-06-18 17:09:12)

tkoi
Utahraptor!
+148|6417|Texas
Looks like it's got one AGP 8x slot.
SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6409|New Jersey
It says 1 x AGP 8x slot, so yes it supports an AGP gfx card.
The_Sniper_NM
Official EVGA Fanboy
+94|6383|SC | USA |
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK

The_Sniper_NM wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609639+106792462+1067933728&name=Radeon+HD+3850

Best bet

Buckles wrote:

I have a couple of AGP cards I can use
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6845|London
Yes you have the slot but no you don't have the power. You're gonna need to replace PSU and that can be a bitch with a Dell.
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK

Aries_37 wrote:

Yes you have the slot but no you don't have the power. You're gonna need to replace PSU and that can be a bitch with a Dell.
Define "Need". I think the gfx card I have is a Radeon 9600 series, so old-ish
aj0404
It'll just be our little secret
+298|6619|Iowa...

The_Sniper_NM wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609639+106792462+1067933728&name=Radeon+HD+3850

Best bet
i wouldn't recommend getting that card.last one i bought from HIS was dead in 3 months,and looking around newegg i saw a lot of other people had the same problem.find a different manufacturer.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

Buckles wrote:

Aries_37 wrote:

Yes you have the slot but no you don't have the power. You're gonna need to replace PSU and that can be a bitch with a Dell.
Define "Need". I think the gfx card I have is a Radeon 9600 series, so old-ish
That's not "old-ish". It's ancient. Can-barely-run-BF2-ancient.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6733|cuntshitlake

The_Sniper_NM wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609639+106792462+1067933728&name=Radeon+HD+3850

Best bet
You do realize AGP 8x has the same bandwidth as PCI-E 4x? If you do, you also realize that that card needs more to work as well as it can.
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Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Buckles wrote:

Aries_37 wrote:

Yes you have the slot but no you don't have the power. You're gonna need to replace PSU and that can be a bitch with a Dell.
Define "Need". I think the gfx card I have is a Radeon 9600 series, so old-ish
That's not "old-ish". It's ancient. Can-barely-run-BF2-ancient.
I always ran BF2 in it on Medium settings with 1024x768 with framerate in mid 30s. No problems.
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK
OK, it turns out that the person I bought the rig off cocked up. It's not a Dimension 4600 as they thought but a 2400. Now, this isn't my friends fault because she knows fuck all about computers, so it was a genuine mistake. Anyways, I found this out when I went to put my AGP card in and discovered that there are only 3 PCI slots, not 2 PCI and 1 AGP as a 4600 would have.

So instead of my 9600, I've had to put (and get this) a Matrox Millennium G200 2D accelerator in instead for a while. However, this is NO good for 3D gaming whatsoever.

So my new question is this:
1) Can someone with an equivalent Dell motherboard with an AGP slot send me their board if it's spare or in a pile of parts?
2) Can someone suggest a cheap equivalent motherboard that will fit and support an AGP graphics card.

I only ask because my tech knowledge is literally only as good as knowing about what I have in front of me as I play with it and see what it does. Otherwise I have no idea.

Cheers
B
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

It's a standard mATX board, so almost any socket 478 mATX board should fit. However, they're not produced anymore, so you'll have to look around second-hand. Check eBay, etc.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK
Had a quick look on ebay. This seems to have 3 PCI slots still, I need 1 AGP slot.
https://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj265/djolliet/vm1.jpg
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

Buckles wrote:

Had a quick look on ebay. This seems to have 3 PCI slots still, I need 1 AGP slot.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj26 … et/vm1.jpg
See that big brown slot? That's the AGP slot. That seems like an awfully good deal, if the lot works, that is.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6826|Kent, UK

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Buckles wrote:

Had a quick look on ebay. This seems to have 3 PCI slots still, I need 1 AGP slot.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj26 … et/vm1.jpg
See that big brown slot? That's the AGP slot. That seems like an awfully good deal, if the lot works, that is.
Ah, I see now. I thought it would be the same as the PCI slots but just further back. Fantastic, bidding now.

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