Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6880|132 and Bush

http://www.reuters.com/article/technolo … technology

Microsoft's Xbox could consider Blu-ray support
It should be consumer choice; and if that's the way they vote, that's something we'll have to consider," Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox hardware said when asked whether Microsoft would support a Blu-ray DVD accessory in the event that HD-DVD failed
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Reciprocity
Member
+721|6859|the dank(super) side of Oregon
only reason I've bought blu-ray movies is becuase my PS3 played them out of the box and I have a TV that makes it worthwhile.  no one could say that with their 360.  huge marketing mistake.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2008-02-16 14:36:55)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6772|N. Ireland
I really expected HD-DVD to win the war. That's a bit of a shock!
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6932

HurricaИe wrote:

Stimey wrote:

Blu-ray won the battle.
Hard Drives will win the war.
not until US&A has good internet

While the high speed internet these days is decent enough for, say, iTunes HD rentals... it's no good for enthusiasts. Let's see you steadily stream a 1080p24 video with uncompresesed 7.1 TrueHD or DTS-MA on the high speed we have in the US...
True, movies in their best HD quality are ridiculously big in file size. A 1080p blu-ray rip of 300 is 26GB. On my connection, that would take about 2 hours and 10 minutes to download if I get my max download speed a la rapidshare. 

ON THE OTHER HAND, it's easy to bring the filesize down without sacrificing that much. 300 in 720p still looks and sounds amazing, yet it fits on a DVD (!)
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6660|the land of bourbon

SEREMAKER wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

hmmmmmmmmm I think I'll buy up some HD vids and a player ............... dirt cheap
Do it quick. They wont be manufacturing them anymore. You'd better enjoy the movies you get.
checking around the prices ............ they've got them marked down to almost nothing, I'm going shopping tonight
lol... and you can put it next to the betamax vcr once you get a blu-ray
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36e1d9e36ae924048a933db90fb05bb247fe315e.png
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6870|Reisterstown, MD

Ryan wrote:

Lemme get this straight.
Blu-Ray is 1080p, correct?
Why not buy an upconverter and play your standard DVD's in 1080p quality?
Because that is in 1080i, which is not full HD (1080p).  It was only a matter of time before HD-DVD bit the dust.  I was trying to hold out til Microsoft finally broke down and went with Blu-Ray in their 360 Elites.  There has been rumblings that they are headed that way. Now that Toshiba has all but abandoned their own baby, it is only a matter of time til Microsoft decides to back the Sony made product.
viper313
One Shot, One Kill
+53|6921|Minnesota

r2zoo wrote:

Common sense would have said HD would have won, its the VHS  to Blu-rays Betamax.  I had pinned my hopes on HD early on, but it quickly became obvious that Blu-ray had alot more support, and as it gre wit chipped away at HD.  Ill be happy to stick with regular old DVDs till they stop making them, never saw the big deal with all this high-definition crap, my giant 57 inch 1080p looks no better then my 20inch CRT, so meh.
Well, if you know your history, the betamax was actually better than vhs but due to certain price issues and publicity problems, vhs won out.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6828|UK

Good, I was going to buy that new Samsung player that does both, but I was getting quotes of £600 easy.  I'll just stick to my PS3 for now, but, the sound, just doesnt cut it with my current set up (optical lead to the amp).

Martyn
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7039|San Antonio, Texas
Well, I think we all saw this comming, it was just like the Betamax - VHS war.
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6565|eng

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

maef wrote:

sux2bXbox360
because the only reason we buy the 360 is play HD DVD's
XBox 360's are shit and stop working.

Microsoft putting Blu-Ray in it is basically admitting that the PS3 is a superior machine, and they are trying to get even with Sony. I know I am biased but it is the truth..

Last edited by mint-sauce-41 (2008-02-18 00:09:41)

#rekt
Nikola Bathory
Karkand T-90 0wnage
+163|7065|Bulgaria
Cool, I will buy a Blu-Ray drive for my PC (when the prices drop, I will never pay 900 - 1000 $ for that!)
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6790|Gold Coast

HurricaИe wrote:

Stimey wrote:

Blu-ray won the battle.
Hard Drives will win the war.
not until US&A has good internet

While the high speed internet these days is decent enough for, say, iTunes HD rentals... it's no good for enthusiasts. Let's see you steadily stream a 1080p24 video with uncompresesed 7.1 TrueHD or DTS-MA on the high speed we have in the US...
.....omfgrusrs?

USA has best internets in entire world!
Im paying $70AU per month for 12GB @ 256kbps.
You fags get like, unlimited for 50cents at 1.5TBPS!


Anywayz, back to topic, Id say that its been interesting. Microsoft would've pushed Toshiba to keep manufacturing HD-DVD just for marketing, but I dont know..... Its like a kick in the face.

But we all knew it, BLU RAY IS SUPERIOR HAHAHAA LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!11111oneoen
noice                                                                                                        https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/awsmsanta.png
iNeedUrFace4Soup
fuck it
+348|6825
Physical media is so 10 years ago.
https://i.imgur.com/jM2Yp.gif
Ridir
Semper Fi!
+48|7043
Or you could have just read when the adult industry decided to go with Blu-Ray about 3 to 5 weeks ago.  Thats who decided VHS Beta max.  That industry has such huge sales that well, its not even funny, and once that announcement came everyone fell like dominos.  The Xbox 360 is actually a really smart design when it was designed without an internal HD-DVD player and instead could have either format USBed in.  The PS3 on the otherhand would have been doomed if the adult industry had decided HD-DVD.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6829|CH/BR - in UK

Kmarion: I already hoped this was a D&ST Thread

Saw it in the New Posts and was really dissapointed x.x

-konfusion
Nikola Bathory
Karkand T-90 0wnage
+163|7065|Bulgaria
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6880|132 and Bush

Nikola Bathory wrote:

The war is NOT over!!! read:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia … Group.html
Hmm.. Reuters vs HD-DVD Promotional group.

Just in case you missed it. Toshiba halted HD DVD production.

Since HD DVD promo group has never considered Sony PlayStation 3 as a Blu-ray disc player
And why not? Their contention is that PS3's aren't really used for Blu-Ray movies. All you need to do is look at Blu-Ray disc sales to see this is not true. With major retailers recently announcing that they will sell Blu-Ray exclusively you can bet the numbers will be even more skewed to BD.


Wall Street knows what's up.
http://www.reuters.com/article/technolo … 17?sp=true

And in a sign that Main Street has already anointed Sony the winner, Blu-ray disc prices were slashed drastically at both Best Buy and at the next-door Circuit City Stores Inc , another of America's huge consumer electronics stores.
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15007
http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=5581
http://www.reuters.com/article/technolo … 3320080218

Game over.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6880|132 and Bush

HD DVD Statement from Microsoft

Microsoft’s PR team sent out this statement regarding the recent developments in the HD DVD camp and rumors that there will be a Xbox 360 Blu-ray add-on drive in the near future:

    “We do not believe the recent reports about HD DVD will have any material impact on the Xbox 360 platform or our position in the marketplace. As we’ve long stated, we believe it is games that sell consoles and Xbox 360 continues to have the largest next-gen games library with the most exclusives and best selling games in the industry. We will wait until we hear from Toshiba before announcing any specific plans around the Xbox 360 HD DVD player. HD DVD is one of the several ways we offer a high definition experience to consumers and we will continue to give consumers the choice to enjoy digital distribution of high definition movies and TV shows directly to their living room along with playback of the DVD movies they already own.”
http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=M … FzdCwsLDE=
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MAGUIRE93
High Angle Hell
+182|6473|Schofield Barracks
saw this and thout the Iraq war ended

Last edited by MAGUIRE93 (2008-02-18 20:09:23)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7051|PNW

ELITE-UK wrote:

Sony = Win <smileyface>
Microsoft = Lose
Fixed.

Sony is just as bad and, if anything, can turd on their customers even more.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-02-18 20:44:11)

Runs_with_sciss0rs
Well butter my buscuit
+121|6471|14072
Damn.. I wasted 200 bucks on Black Friday buying a Toshiba HD DVD player
emumano101
Member
+7|6811|um my dads house
^^^ lol same thing happen to my cousin lol now i have a blu ray drive in my PC BLU ray looks sick !!!!!!!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6880|132 and Bush

emumano101 wrote:

^^^ lol same thing happen to my cousin lol now i have a blu ray drive in my PC BLU ray looks sick !!!!!!!
Watch this on Blu-Ray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Golden_Flower

No srsly. Unreal.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6880|132 and Bush

Despite Red's inability to make any real public statement, Japanese publication Nikkei has it that Toshiba president Atsutoshi Nishida will be announcing the final discontinuation of HD DVD tomorrow (Today), as well as halted sales of hardware and media by March (as in days from now). Apparently Toshiba will pull its units from retail shelves, but has no intention to give burned early adopters any refunds (no kidding?); it sounds like the ceasefire will include the bare PC drives as well, so those hoping to keep using HD DVD as a personal data storage medium probably won't have much luck. Apparently the announcement will come alongside Toshiba's plans to build new semiconductor fabs, which we're sure they'll try to spin as an advancement that far overshadows the hill of beans (read: hundreds of millions) they've lost in the format war.
Just in case we still had some skeptics.

Toshiba expected to announce death of HD DVD tomorrow, stop sales by March
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r'Eeee
That's how I roll, BITCH!
+311|6727

He already did:

Following several days of rumors, Toshiba has confirmed that it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders, effectively ending the high-def format war.

In a just-issued press release, the company said that it reached the decision following "recent major changes in the market." Toshiba emphasized that it will continue to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop,” said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality.”

Toshiba said it will begin reducing shipments of HD DVD players and recorders immediately, with the aim of pulling all HD DVD players, recorders and disc drives from store shelves by March. The company went on to say that it would "continue to assess" the long-term viability of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives.
Source.

Last edited by r'Eeee (2008-02-19 02:27:02)

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