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I in ways agree with the rule;

"§ Engineers repairing the Blackhawk and giving supplies while C4 Chunking"

This is a way to get easy points (someone re-suppy in heli driver gettng points), but, there was no support guy, can you still throw C4 out?

you guys have about summed it up pretty well.  i too think the worst "rules" here is how they define spawncamping and how they prohibit repairing a blackhawk while inside of it.  could you imagine that?  your opponent's team's only base left is an uncappable one and you and your teammates HAVE to let them catch another base.  ridiculous!  would make for a hilarious site though.  as for the blackhawk thing...i don't even know where to start complaining about that.  not only would i be restating what most of you said, but any reasonable person could think of a number of reasons to complain about that when it comes to this game.

dan500 wrote:

I in ways agree with the rule;

"§ Engineers repairing the Blackhawk and giving supplies while C4 Chunking"

This is a way to get easy points (someone re-suppy in heli driver gettng points), but, there was no support guy, can you still throw C4 out?

Easy points? Easy points is being in the gunner position and raking in 15 kills a minute. Is that stat padding too based on the merit that it is easy? Hell, if I went the entire round resupplying people in a blackhawk throwing crap out the side, I'd be lucky to get 35 points total from resupplies. However, if I was in the gunner position, I could easily get 200+ points killing enemies.

IndianScout wrote:

The new ROE is up Authored by EA and US and are official ...


http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/forums/ … .php?t=251

IndianScout

§1.8 Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

This would include but not limited to:

    * § Knife-Pistol-Revive
    * § Knife-Pistol only Servers
    * § Knife only Servers
    * § High Points Servers
    * § Infantry only Servers
    * § No Artillery or Armour Servers

§1.8 Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

This would include but not limited to:

    * § Knife-Pistol-Revive
    * § Knife-Pistol only Servers
    * § Knife only Servers
    * § High Points Servers
    * § Infantry only Servers
    * § No Artillery or Armour Servers
    * § Engineers repairing the Blackhawk and giving supplies while C4 Chunking
    * § Turning boats upside down and repairing
    * § Glitching inside buildings.
    * § Modifying game files for vehicles and weapons.
    * § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.
    * § Turning boats upside down and repairing
    * § Glitching inside buildings.
    * § Modifying game files for vehicles and weapons.
    * § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.


IndianScout,
This is getting personal to me for the first time.  I'm an engineer more than 50% of my time in theater. 
"* § Engineers repairing the Blackhawk and giving supplies while C4 Chunking"
If I'm understanding what I'm reading, I "could" be violating the ROE for repairing the BH in flight?
Please tell me I'm wrong. 

I was just on a ranked server last night that went to Mashtur City, and was an engineer in a squad that had 3 squad mates in it, with 2-3 other Marines in the BH. Yes I was an engineer, repairing while in-flight, getting kill assists, and I ended the round with 8 repair points. This is what I call TEAMWORK.

C4 Chucking: I have done this with less than spectacular results, but this is an offensive tactic. How is this a violation of the ROE? Any kit can shoot his pistol/ main weapon, plus toss grenades if equipped, out of the jump seats, so why now the limitation?

Please CLARIFY these ROE.

I'm in the middle of rewording the Blackhawk ruling..

this is what the rule applies too..

this doesnt apply to regular game play,

but how many times have you seen a blackhawk over the water somewhere or in the corner of a map and the guy is throwing mines or C4 out the window as fast as he can, while he is getting resupplied,'

if you player can come up with better wording for this rule, I am all ears...

Indian

Friluftshund wrote:

Nicholas Langdon wrote:

dont ever try to tell me the rules for playing a game i payed for........
not using hacks and cheats are all well and good, but i'll use what ever kit i want in a vehicle,and ill do what i want with a vehicle...

You arn't paying to play on ranked servers... EA doesn't give a damn what you do in singleplayer, but it it defined as a privilige to play on a ranked server - so therefore they have the right to set the rules which all must follow.

whatever.... im not going to stat pad or use hacks... but ill play the game how i see fit. if they want to wipe my stats thats fine.. i'd rather have fun playing with a 0 points profile. than no fun with a 100000000 points profile.

IndianScout wrote:

I'm in the middle of rewording the Blackhawk ruling..

this is what the rule applies too..

this doesnt apply to regular game play,

but how many times have you seen a blackhawk over the water somewhere or in the corner of a map and the guy is throwing mines or C4 out the window as fast as he can, while he is getting resupplied,'

if you player can come up with better wording for this rule, I am all ears...

Indian

what the guy below this post wrote is much better. they way you wrote it it sounds like you cant do bombing runs....
by the way i dont see why you cant use suicide cars.. ive never done it myself, but why not.

IndianScout wrote:

I'm in the middle of rewording the Blackhawk ruling..

this is what the rule applies too..

this doesnt apply to regular game play,

but how many times have you seen a blackhawk over the water somewhere or in the corner of a map and the guy is throwing mines or C4 out the window as fast as he can, while he is getting resupplied,'

if you player can come up with better wording for this rule, I am all ears...

Indian

Indian,

Use the Phrase  "not in contact" or "non-combat" area or radius, or maybe  "distance from action"

it would be great if they could just code it to detect distance from combat and frequency of munitions deployment/repair/resupply and just not give any points when it happens....

Some ethically-challenged people have figured out that they can appear godly by having a high score and not fighting to get it...the game should somehow force them to fight and not reward them when they remain out of range of action while generating resupply/repair points.  Sadly rules are meaningless to these people....

Nice work on the wording IndianScout.  Sounds much better.

Just wondering, so please don't take offense in it, IndianScout:

You used terms that were coined by the community (I think) like "Blackhawk Whoring" "Flag Hopping" (those sound like community made terms ) and I am not sure about "spawncamping" (heard it first in BF1942, my first online FPS). So why was the term "Jihad Jeeping" not used in brackets as explanation for "Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles"? Has this to do with political correctness? Or does EA prohibit the offical use of that term in the ROE?

I don't *need* that term in there, I am just asking out of curiousity

See ya,
vonSteuben

hahahahahah yes!!!!!!!!! moongamers servers are completely gutted, as they do not allow to bomb uncappable flags...........yay base raping!!!!!!!! more points for me!!!!!!!!!!! those rules rock. nice on EA. (by the way, first ever complement given to them by me)

vonSteuben wrote:

Just wondering, so please don't take offense in it, IndianScout:

You used terms that were coined by the community (I think) like "Blackhawk Whoring" "Flag Hopping" (those sound like community made terms ) and I am not sure about "spawncamping" (heard it first in BF1942, my first online FPS). So why was the term "Jihad Jeeping" not used in brackets as explanation for "Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles"? Has this to do with political correctness? Or does EA prohibit the offical use of that term in the ROE?

I don't *need* that term in there, I am just asking out of curiousity

See ya,
vonSteuben

EA allows "Jihad Jeeping" though (so if EA did address it, I'm sure they'd try to be politically correct).  If I remember correctly from those new ROE, it said if NON EA ranked servers prohibited "Jihad Jeeping," then it could be enforced by the server's admins.

Oh IndianScout, nice word choice for the revision.  lol.  You should be a lawyer.

Last edited by Mike_J (2006-02-08 14:49:39)