Old (Original) Ranks and Award Requirements

2007-03-16 15:57:35

#1

Drexel: Member; +43|6675|Philadelphia

Ok, I've seen many people ask about the original ranks the game had day one. I personally feel that these requirements, although extremely difficult to receive, would make that rank/award actually respected. I've found a forums from those early days and one guy I quote saying,

"Well Me being a Measly L.CPL, It looks pretty sweet when you see a Sgt. In game."

Another guy saying,

"I agree, even though it may sound ridiculous, it should be very hard to gain rank. Because otherwise within a few weeks, everyone will be general, and withing a few months, everyone will just be at same rank, and the ranking system will have gone to hell."

Anyway, these are beside the point. I wanted to just go and post the original requirements that I still have.

RANKS

Global Score Rank
0 Private
500 Private First Class
1,000 Lance Corporal
10,500 Corporal
25,000 Sergeant
50,000 Staff Sergeant
75,000 Gunnery Sergeant
150,000 Master Sergeant
150,000 Basic Combats First Sergeant
250,000 Master Gunnery Sergeant
250,000 Basic Vehicles Sergeant Major
250,000 Best monthly player Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps

AWARDS

Award Basic Veteran Expert

Engineer Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 40 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Sniper Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 35 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Medic Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 40 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Spec Ops Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 40 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Assault Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 40 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Anti-Tank Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 40 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Support Combat 10 Kills IAR 20 Kills IAR / 250 hours 40 Kills IAR / 1,000 hours
Knife Combat 7 Kills IAR 50 Kills / 7 Kills IAR 100 Kills / 18 Kills IAR
Pistol Combat 9 Kills IAR 50 Kills / 9 Kills IAR 500 Kills / 18 Kills IAR
Ground Defence 5 Min. IAR 12 Kills IAR / 200 hours 24 Kills IAR / 750 hours
Explosive Ordinance 13 kills IAR 23 Kills IAR / 500 kills 37 Kills IAR / 1,000 Kills
Commander 40 Points IAR 33 Min. IAR / 15,000 points 33 Min. IAR / 150,000 points
Engineer Repair 5 Repairs IAR 15 Repairs IAR / 500 hours 25 Repairs IAR / 1,000 Hours & Repairs
First Aid 5 Heals IAR 10 Heals IAR / 500 hours 25 Heals IAR / 1,000 Hours & Heals
Re-Supply 5 Resuplies IAR 10 Resuplies IAR / 500 Hours 25 Resuplies IAR / 1,000 Hours & Resuplies
Air Defence 10 Min IAR 12 Kills IAR / 250 Hours 24 Kills IAR / 750 Hours
Armor 10 Min IAR 12 Kills IAR / 100 Hours 24 Kills IAR / 1,000 Hours
Aviator 10 Min IAR 12 Kills IAR / 500 Hours 24 Kills IAR / 1,500 Hours
Helicopter 15 Min IAR 12 Kilsl IAR / 100 Hours 24 Kills IAR / 1,000 Hours

I apologize, but I did not write down the original Ribbon requirements and couldn't find them online. If anyone can send me them or give me a link, I'll edit and add those as well.

Edit for spelling

Last edited by Drexel (2007-12-26 15:32:34)

2007-03-16 16:02:29

#2

Peter: Super Awesome Member; +494|6601|dm_maidenhead

wow +1
How many people had expert ground defence.
I really think EA overestimated how much people would play this game. The top ranked people are at about 3000 hours. They might have about 3 expert combats if they constantly whored that kit. lol

2007-03-16 16:05:24

#3

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6667

Why I didn't play ranked until January.

2007-03-16 16:05:39

#4

Shiffdaddy: Member; +73|6532

Jeezus Christ. Those are 10x harder than the ones right now. I have been interested in this for a while and couldnt find anything. Thanks +1

2007-03-16 16:10:18

#5

David.P: Banned; +649|6472

+1 always wanted to know what it was like in the old day's.

2007-03-16 16:23:29

#6

Megalomaniac: Formerly known as Missionless; +92|6526|105 RVK

lol i remeber back then when I was a lance corporal for AGES [ok 1 month] and I was so mad cause I wanted unlocks.

Never knew that the gap was that big tho, wow.

I would be a Master Sgt. now if we still had those ranks

2007-03-16 16:25:41

#7

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6764|Area 51

1000 hours for a kit badge? What were they smokin? xD Even so I do remember the old days..having 20000 points and still be a corperal..

2007-03-16 16:28:50

#8

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|6848|Washington DC

Drexel wrote:
Pistol Combat 9 Kills IAR 50 Kills / 9 Kills IAR 100 Kills / 18 Kills IAR

Good compilation ... one error I noticed was that expert pistol was 500 global kills, and 18 IAR

If you want to add some of the ribbons & medals you are missing, you can use the WayBack machine that has logged historic BF2s web pages. For example, from the August 1, 2005 version of the site ...

Here's the UBAR requirements for badges: http://web.archive.org/web/200508052331 … adges.html

Here's the UBAR requirements for ribbons: http://web.archive.org/web/200508052342 … bbons.html

Here's the UBAR requirements for rank: http://web.archive.org/web/200508070131 … ranks.html

2007-03-16 16:29:10

#9

Andoura: Got loooollllll ?; +853|6837|Montreal, Qc, Canada

ahhhh the good old days of this great game !!!!! (even wit the 10 patch )

2007-03-16 16:32:56

#10

justice: OctoPoster; +978|6939|OctoLand

This was bf2 at its best, end of story.

I know fucking karate

2007-03-16 16:34:22

#11

Megalomaniac: Formerly known as Missionless; +92|6526|105 RVK

i alos think Expert knife was 300 or 500 kills then 18 IAR

2007-03-16 16:44:23

#12

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6970|PNW

David.Podedworny wrote:
+1 always wanted to know what it was like in the old day's.

I'd revert to the original system if it meant Blackhawk miniguns were restored to their former glory. Boy, was that fun.

2007-03-16 19:12:42

#13

genius_man16: Platinum Star whore; +365|6877|Middle of nowhere

although i do believe that EA should make the awards harder to get, 1000 for expert badges is too extreme

2007-03-16 19:37:18

#14

Ricerckt93: Member; +69|6851

Wow, didn't think I was very far along, but that would suck to be kicked back down to Gunny SGT.

2007-03-17 03:51:32

#15

Snake: Missing, Presumed Dead; +1,046|6764|England

WOAH! Currently, im a Lt.Col...with that system, Id be a Gunnery Sgt

And we complain of expert armour being @ 400 hours...expert aviator was 1500 hours!!

The AA, knife and Ground defense badges have been completely nerfed though.
Whereas I think the badges should be harder....1000hours for an expert kit badge is pathetic.

I remember the SF medals were 4500hours as each army when it came out - and stayed like that until what, summer last year?

2007-03-17 04:00:15

#16

Megalomaniac: Formerly known as Missionless; +92|6526|105 RVK

Snake wrote:
I remember the SF medals were 4500hours as each army when it came out - and stayed like that until what, summer last year?

lol i remeber those too.
They changed it in 1.2 or 1.22, not sure

2007-03-17 06:36:56

#17

JaggedPanther: Member; +61|6672

OMG!!! 1000 hrs per kit???

So basically all you needed was LOTS OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS for the old system. That would mean 7,000 hours if you wanted expert on all kits, That's BS I doubt anyone has the time.

Last edited by JaggedPanther (2007-03-17 06:37:38)

2007-03-17 07:04:25

#18

Private_Adam: Medic since 1942; +245|6850|United States

On the ranks section you spelled Gergeant Major wrong it should be Sergeant Major. Right now I would be first sergeant

2007-03-17 10:16:36

#19

m4s3rchi3f: Member; +122|6493

My God....that's almost intimidating. VERY hard to please E.A. Good thing they come to sense with their req.

2007-03-17 10:25:15

#20

Sup3r_Dr4gon: Boat sig is not there anymore; +214|6526|Australia

1500 hours sitting in a frickin' plane and 750 hours on a mountewd gun for expert? I seriously doubt most BF2 players play for more then ~300 hours total.

I think the Kit times are good now (100 hours). To get all expert requires 700 hours total, and you have to admit, that is a huge amount of time as it is.
I also think commander is good as it is now, considering no one ever goes commander. Hell, I only have 19000 points, and already I'm ranked 200th out of Australia.

2007-03-19 09:53:34

#21

Drexel: Member; +43|6675|Philadelphia

I still stand to think that these old requirements, although very tough to achieve, would actually force you to become and expert at the kits before you get the award. How many people do you see running around with expert awards that are totally worthless using the kit? They got it by commanding the whole time or something like that.

I was proposing a (sorta) compromise. If the vets awards for combat stayed the same, but had the expert time at 500 hours, I think that would be better than what it is now. The vehicle times are crazy, but if you ran into a guy with over 1500 hours in experience in a plane (I'm sure there's a few out there now) you'd have to be ungodly good to be able to keep up with them.

One of the biggest problems that I have with the nerf is that I was about to get the Vet Engineer combat award, but then they felt like changing the requirements, so now I have almost 200 hours as an engineer, but about 50 hours in each of the other kits. If they would have changed it from the start, I could have had 2 or 3 more expert combats by now.

Also, when you go and find actual combat, how many generals do you see running around or flying a jet? At the same time, How many Master Sergeants do you see? 1 if you're lucky. That's one thing I enjoyed about this game. Being a Corporal actually meant something. Now you could get PFC in your first round if you were really on fire. I would be perfectly fine being a Staff Sergeant right now.

Last edited by Drexel (2007-03-19 10:02:41)

2007-03-19 10:00:17

#22

jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6721|...

lol ground defense 750 hours. time != difficulty

2007-03-19 10:03:43

#23

LOATHE YOU: Banned; +0|6451

I think I am 1 of about 100 in the whole BF2 community that can boast the REAL War college ribbon earned.

See the date earned ?

http://bf2s.com/player/58292816/

Yep, it war hard as hell but I did it. So many people bitched that it was too hard. I would like to thank EA for listening to the 18 and under crowd for helping nerf the ranking system. I still enjoy BF2 but it was more fun to earn various awards back then.

Regarding those awards that some people found rediculous, I think EA was intending that someone would purchase the game and be playing will into the next decade. I see no issues with that. It's that fun for myself.

2007-03-19 10:09:30

#24

Ricerckt93: Member; +69|6851

LOATHE YOU wrote:
I think I am 1 of about 100 in the whole BF2 community that can boast the REAL War college ribbon earned.

See the date earned ?

http://bf2s.com/player/58292816/

Yep, it war hard as hell but I did it. So many people bitched that it was too hard. I would like to thank EA for listening to the 18 and under crowd for helping nerf the ranking system. I still enjoy BF2 but it was more fun to earn various awards back then.

Regarding those awards that some people found rediculous, I think EA was intending that someone would purchase the game and be playing will into the next decade. I see no issues with that. It's that fun for myself.

Yeah, I got my WCR pre 1.3 too.

2007-03-19 10:10:16

#25

Samtheman53: Banned; +346|6894|UK

1000 hours for an expert?

Damn

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