BF2S Forums Mexican border town?

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ATG wrote:

It is a crime. One I'm forced to commit to be in business.

My company;
available upon request.

ATG wrote:

The economy is beginning to tank in Southern California. Forget the papers and what they say, construction is in the toilet, and a lot of people are hurting financially, including now me.

liquix wrote:

Don't hire them. I understand you think it's the Government's fault, but it isn't. If Americans such as yourself who  hire illegals to save money would take the financial hit by hiring citizens the problem would go away. Price would rise in this scenario, but the truth is there would be far fewer immigrants if there was no work for them. Don't get me wrong, I understand to drop your bottom line and business costs you hire them. If you do hire them, don't complain since your part of the system.

Blehm98 wrote:

@liquix

incorrect.  The government prefers to keep shipping illegals over because it keeps the social security system going (which should have died a while ago) and gives the government officials free votes.  The government wants illegals over here almost as badly as the big businesses

Canin wrote:

I see a lot of central and south Americans in my line of work. I hesitate to use the word Mexican as all illegals are not from Mexico as my supposed future brother in law recently pointed out. Now I openly assume that most of them are here legally, though I could be wrong. And most that I meet are in the restaurant business, either as cooks or busboys and dishwashers. The one thing that I have not read in this debate is the fact that many of them come here illegally so that their children, once born on American soil, will be legal and have a better life than they do. And while I do not support them coming illegally, I would have no problems if they would come legally. After all, don't we all as parents want better for our children than what we had growing up.

Now for the unhappy side of me. Having said that I meet most of them in restaurants, legal or illegal, the one thing I wish they would do is learn to speak english. There is nothing I hate more than going to repair a piece of equipment and not being able to find out what is wrong because not one person in the place can speak english.

As far as a solution to immigration, cut off the hand that feeds. And I don't mean the self employed guy who has to hire a few to get a job done. Stop the financial institutions from catering to them, stop the hospitals from treating them freely, stop western union from shipping large amounts of US Dollars to Mexico. If the current government wont do anything, then for petes sake, rather than talk about electing different people and come election time, putting the same people in office, actually elect new people.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

OK the problem isn't with the Illegal Aliens at all. The problem is with the system that we have in place, it's probably cheaper for ATG to hire an illegal alien at a decent wage then to hire an American Citizen at a cheaper wage.

Our system of Income tax is broke, you take away the benifit for hiring Illegals then you take away the reason for them. There are a few ways of doing this, a flat tax in place of an income tax, also a socialized health care system..

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

i need a job

ATG wrote:

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A few months ago I worked on a high school in Bell, which borders Cudahy. I took video of the student population while on break and had considered creating a thread about what I saw.

I didn't for two reasons; the obvious violation of policy and privacy and the fact that I saw no way to frame to the thread in a way that would not get me branded instantly as racist.
Now that the issue is finally making mainstream news it seems worth debating.

First, let's talk about my source for the Cudahy story; The L.A. Weekly. It's known as a borderline radical leftist puplication. I read the sister rag the O.C. Weekly, and let me tell you the Bush hate there makes this forum seems like a Whitehouse lovefest.
I am usually somewhat bemused when people dismiss a link because its from FOX or WND without even bothering to read it. Thats shortsighted. You know one reason why I have liberal, and conservative views? Because I'm open minded and well read.

Now, lets see if you can refute what I'm saying without name calling.
http://www.laweekly.com/general/feature … got/15731/  ( source )
"Cudahy resembles a Mexican border town more than it does a Los Angeles suburb. Entrenched gangs and Mexican drug trafficking have trapped working-class legal and illegal immigrants in a cycle of violence and fear, in a city where less than a quarter of the 28,000 residents are eligible to vote. An uneducated city council, a deeply troubled police force imported from Maywood two towns over, and the raw power of the 18th Street Gang — a complex criminal organization with a knack for setting up business fronts and obscuring underground drug activity — make Cudahy residents seem like hostages in their own city.
"

The high school I worked on is the 8th largest high school in the nation. I'm not linking to demographic data because it seems prudent not to mention the name of the school, but the gist of it is the the population is 90% hispanic, 40% of them being illegal aliens, 30% the legal children of illegal aliens and the rest natural born citizens.

The ways illegal immigration effects me directly is ( among other things );

1) Remember the " Day without a Immigrant Day " a few months back?
I remember it as the day with 30% of normal traffic. The civic planners did not account for tens of millions of peoples pouring unplanned across the border.
2) Remember when a good house painter could make 50k per year? ( many of you won't, but it was only 15 years ago )
That era is officially over. All of the trade skills have been devalued by desperate people coming across the border looking for work. Sure, they may come to pick crops, but the only do it for one season, next season they paint or flip burgers. Its still hard work, but the pay is better than picking crops at half of what it payed a citizen a few years back.
3) Taggers
Once they start to defile an area with their childish scribbles, the area is gone and you can't get it back.

golgoj4 wrote:

klassekock wrote:

I have the perfect solution for you americans.

Why not embrace Mexico as one of your states? By doing so the mexicans people wouldn't need to go to america for work since they already are americans! Plus, they will start paying taxes aswell.

Fuck you thats my idea. Invade Mexico, annex it and force them to get their shit together as a state. Sure it would be a drain initially, but im sure the resources we acquire will offset some of the cost.