(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7032|Grapevine, TX
Yea Im taking this serious, j/k from the guys weak voice, with no conviction and that pussy reference to the Nazi party resembling the Eagle, Globe & Anchor.

Some of the things this guy tries to discuss:
We are all losers, scraped up from the bottom of the barrel, they dropped the requirements, and now they are allowing Dwarfs in the Corps, the training is "pretty easy" {the video guy}" I know" if your in pretty good shape any one can do it, if you can run for a while, even a dwarf or a woman can do it. I tried to out last you guys and watch the whole thing but I could only stand listening to this wannabe a US Marine guy for a little over 5 mins. I think this ego maniac, thinks he is too intelligent for the Corps, and couldn't make it through boot camp.

Another pathetic person filling the internet with sad little stories of their life.

Well I went to MCRD in San Diego, so I guess I'm safe from all the brainwashing that goes on at the Island, where you train with women and dwarfs!  What a waste of oxygen and bandwidth that punk is.

He has a follow up video, because so many moronic "robots without a hard drive" how he put it, responded to his original video.
https://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r123/teflonshadow/allMarine.jpg

Last edited by (T)eflon(S)hadow (2007-01-25 17:13:53)

usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio

ryan_14 wrote:

USMC fashion show anyone?
I hope this is not against the forum rules..since you really do not see anything.  However, feel free to delete it.

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-01-25 17:08:38)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6608|North Carolina
LOL...  oh my god...  that was sick.  Thankfully, they didn't use a zoom function on that camera.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6772|Portland, OR, USA
Some of this stuff is a little radical, well... very radical, but is it all bullshit?  I really don't think so.

It is true that many recruits are young, impressionable teens with no other options.  I suppose you can say "low lifes" but I think it's more along the lines of misinformed. -- why else would every corp of the military come to my high school to recruit???  I wouldn't go so far to call it "brainwashing" per say, however it is something close.  No human being in their right mind, wants to actually kill someone.  That is instilled by some other being, whether it be a psychological mix up or lets call it "patriotism" though recently I've taken a liking to propaganda.

To wrap things up, when it comes to things like these, don't go with the flow and brush it off as bullshit.  You can learn some valuable lessons from radicals or conspiracy theorists though you do have to take what they say with a grain of salt.  He does have a entirely valid point, I can see where he is coming from though I don't entirely agree with it.  Subordination by conformity would be a better way to put it
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6721|Montucky

Goven wrote:

S3v3N wrote:

ryan_14 wrote:

USMC fashion show anyone?
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I'm directly in the Center, note that i'm the shortest one at 5'9".
What kinda rifles are those?
M4 Carbines, however they've got sim-barrels on them (painted blue)
http://www.simunition.com/index_en.php

Aimpoint Sights, SureFire Lights and the vertical forearm grip.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6608|North Carolina

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Some of this stuff is a little radical, well... very radical, but is it all bullshit?  I really don't think so.

It is true that many recruits are young, impressionable teens with no other options.  I suppose you can say "low lifes" but I think it's more along the lines of misinformed. -- why else would every corp of the military come to my high school to recruit???  I wouldn't go so far to call it "brainwashing" per say, however it is something close.  No human being in their right mind, wants to actually kill someone.  That is instilled by some other being, whether it be a psychological mix up or lets call it "patriotism" though recently I've taken a liking to propaganda.

To wrap things up, when it comes to things like these, don't go with the flow and brush it off as bullshit.  You can learn some valuable lessons from radicals or conspiracy theorists though you do have to take what they say with a grain of salt.  He does have a entirely valid point, I can see where he is coming from though I don't entirely agree with it.  Subordination by conformity would be a better way to put it
I hear ya...  but does he really expect the military to be a bastion of individualism?  An individualistic military would be very ineffective.

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-01-25 17:13:08)

Da_Killer_NoooooooB
Bloom County Bound!
+5|6765|San Diego MCRD Plt# 3027
God, it makes me feel good to be called a zombie....... It's cool though, when I run into this faggot & bury a size 13 cadillac in his ass then make him eat it, I'll be able to use the "brain-washed" defense- Hell, he said I'm a robot, so how can he blame me? candy-ass emo puke..................

Last edited by Da_Killer_NoooooooB (2007-01-25 17:14:16)

CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6772|Portland, OR, USA

usmarine2007 wrote:

ryan_14 wrote:

USMC fashion show anyone?
I hope this is not against the forum rules..since you really do not see anything.  However, feel free to delete it.

I remember a thread a while back about an American couple who has sex with their horse.  Don't go feeling too superior there bud.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio
Just for fun dude...relax.
XCheapshotX
Member
+2|6516|Geordie Land
5 minutes in he mentions...US Marine Corps Dwarfs? sorry, what like Tolkien Thorin Oaken shield type of dwarf? He likes the Recon and 75th Infantry so they must be Elves then? Orcs, trolls ? "The USMC recruits stumpy people" Laughable idiocy.

Why does he sound like a Woody Allen impersonator talking while nipping his nostrils shut ?
sporadicfire
Member
+6|6514|a shallow grave in karkand
This guy is an idiot, i very much doubt he knows much of what he is saying, i very much doubt this dude has been to Iraq / Fallujah.

You don't even get his name so, hes not even an authority on the matter.

This fool was just letting everyone know about his weak minded opinion thats all it is.

My guess is he tried out for the marines like the rest of the "Scum" {as he says}  and got knocked back. He saw the marines taking on people he thought to be lower then him and got pissed.

My conclusion === this dude has serious issues
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6772|Portland, OR, USA

Turquoise wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Some of this stuff is a little radical, well... very radical, but is it all bullshit?  I really don't think so.

It is true that many recruits are young, impressionable teens with no other options.  I suppose you can say "low lifes" but I think it's more along the lines of misinformed. -- why else would every corp of the military come to my high school to recruit???  I wouldn't go so far to call it "brainwashing" per say, however it is something close.  No human being in their right mind, wants to actually kill someone.  That is instilled by some other being, whether it be a psychological mix up or lets call it "patriotism" though recently I've taken a liking to propaganda.

To wrap things up, when it comes to things like these, don't go with the flow and brush it off as bullshit.  You can learn some valuable lessons from radicals or conspiracy theorists though you do have to take what they say with a grain of salt.  He does have a entirely valid point, I can see where he is coming from though I don't entirely agree with it.  Subordination by conformity would be a better way to put it
I hear ya...  but does he really expect the military to be a bastion of individualism?  An individualistic military would be very ineffective.
I fully agree.  For anything to run well you need conformity.  But I also see where this guys coming from.  I find it infuriating that the first thing people do is comment on his high voice or lack of testicles, I bet you didn't even actually listen to what the man had to say and think about it.

If it's against the government then it has to be wrong! rabble rabble rabble rabble kill him! rabble rabble rabble

Edit:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Just for fun dude...relax.
lol no problem, just saying..

Last edited by CommieChipmunk (2007-01-25 17:18:55)

oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6722|Πάϊ
What's with the lightning anyway?
ƒ³
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6608|North Carolina

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Some of this stuff is a little radical, well... very radical, but is it all bullshit?  I really don't think so.

It is true that many recruits are young, impressionable teens with no other options.  I suppose you can say "low lifes" but I think it's more along the lines of misinformed. -- why else would every corp of the military come to my high school to recruit???  I wouldn't go so far to call it "brainwashing" per say, however it is something close.  No human being in their right mind, wants to actually kill someone.  That is instilled by some other being, whether it be a psychological mix up or lets call it "patriotism" though recently I've taken a liking to propaganda.

To wrap things up, when it comes to things like these, don't go with the flow and brush it off as bullshit.  You can learn some valuable lessons from radicals or conspiracy theorists though you do have to take what they say with a grain of salt.  He does have a entirely valid point, I can see where he is coming from though I don't entirely agree with it.  Subordination by conformity would be a better way to put it
I hear ya...  but does he really expect the military to be a bastion of individualism?  An individualistic military would be very ineffective.
I fully agree.  For anything to run well you need conformity.  But I also see where this guys coming from.  I find it infuriating that the first thing people do is comment on his high voice or lack of testicles, I bet you didn't even actually listen to what the man had to say and think about it.

If it's against the government then it has to be wrong! rabble rabble rabble rabble kill him! rabble rabble rabble
Admittedly, I only got about halfway through....  You should know by now though that I am typically an anti-government voice here.  I just don't like people like this narrator, because he gives anti-establishment movements a bad name.  It's kind of like how Libertarianism has a lot of good ideas, but the party is often weighed down by nutcases.  This guy sounds like a typical conspiracy theorist who lacks in facts and direction.

Still, I agree with a very small amount of what he's said.  Most of my distrust concerning Iraq is not aimed at soldiers, however.  I just distrust the defense contractors.  Soldiers are trained to serve our society -- corporations are trained to make a buck regardless of the costs to society.
Chuckles
Member
+32|6750
That's just silly on it's face.  Anybody with half a brain knows that Marines aren't washed at all, especially their brains....the filthy bastards.

They clean themselves with a mixture of metal files, emory cloth, engine degreaser, a blowtorch, gasoline, DDT, and a roto rooter.  And Dentyne gum.  But there's no "washing" a Marine.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6721|Montucky

Chuckles wrote:

That's just silly on it's face.  Anybody with half a brain knows that Marines aren't washed at all, especially their brains....the filthy bastards.

They clean themselves with a mixture of metal files, emory cloth, engine degreaser, a blowtorch, gasoline, DDT, and a roto rooter.  And Dentyne gum.  But there's no "washing" a Marine.
You forgot one very important item.

CLP
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6793|Reisterstown, MD

Anyone who thinks the Corps is a brainwashing service branch is a frigging retard.  Most people who think this can not handle the Marine Corps and thus, are nothing but scary little pussies...
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6772|Portland, OR, USA

Turquoise wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


I hear ya...  but does he really expect the military to be a bastion of individualism?  An individualistic military would be very ineffective.
I fully agree.  For anything to run well you need conformity.  But I also see where this guys coming from.  I find it infuriating that the first thing people do is comment on his high voice or lack of testicles, I bet you didn't even actually listen to what the man had to say and think about it.

If it's against the government then it has to be wrong! rabble rabble rabble rabble kill him! rabble rabble rabble
Admittedly, I only got about halfway through....  You should know by now though that I am typically an anti-government voice here.  I just don't like people like this narrator, because he gives anti-establishment movements a bad name.  It's kind of like how Libertarianism has a lot of good ideas, but the party is often weighed down by nutcases.  This guy sounds like a typical conspiracy theorist who lacks in facts and direction.

Still, I agree with a very small amount of what he's said.  Most of my distrust concerning Iraq is not aimed at soldiers, however.  I just distrust the defense contractors.  Soldiers are trained to serve our society -- corporations are trained to make a buck regardless of the costs to society.
this is getting to be quite the quote pyramid but again, completely agree.

Though I think that this so called "brainwashing" begins at a very early age.  I have a kid in one of my classes whose mom is in Iraq and the other day he was telling us about how his mom just sent him a picture of her in some helicopter helmet smiling and he put it up on his myspace account with a caption titled "when my mom kills, she smiles".  And that's the kind of sick stuff that doesn't come naturally.  Personally I think it is a symptom of media domination, most people don't really think for themselves anymore, but I guess it's necessary in order to keep the masses controlled and "well educated" on current events.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6892|Tampa Bay Florida
I actually agree with Commie Chipmunk.  The video dude may be outrageously disrespectful, and I'm not denying that, but I still understand where he comes from.  Call it whatever you want, but "brainwashing" or sharpening recruits by the military is nothing new. 

How do you think Hitler managed to murder 6 million Jews?  How do you think he rallied his nation behind him to conquer almost every country in Europe?

I wouldn't call it "brainwashing", I'd call it manipulation.  It can be done on an individual and national scale.  If you keep saying the same thing, over and over and over, eventually people won't even notice what you're saying could be a lie. 

"The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a great lie than to a small one."
"What luck for rulers that men do not think. "

Adolf Hitler

Am I saying the Marines are a neo-Nazi brainwashing cult?  Of course not.  But do not throw away the guys idea completely, as Commie said, there may be an ounce of truth hiding behind all that crap coming out of his mouth.

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-01-25 17:51:09)

|=-sL-=|.Cujucuyo.
Member
+26|6585|California
Listen to the guys voice (as if you can't) he sounds so pathetic, he's an inbred moron, that's all he is. $5 he got beat up everyday at school.
Chuckles
Member
+32|6750

killer21 wrote:

Anyone who thinks the Corps is a brainwashing service branch is a frigging retard.  Most people who think this can not handle the Marine Corps and thus, are nothing but scary little pussies...
I'm not sure if "scary" is the adjective you're looking for there.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6570|Columbus, Ohio
No black around the eyes...good job.
TuataraDude
Member
+115|6725|Aotearoa
I'm sorry, but the moment he said the USMC recruits "all the losers, dead enders and other types of scum from the bottom of the barrell" he lost any chance of convincing me he was going to say something intelligent.

About the brainwashing, to a certain extent, this is true. Drilling to get people used to reacting without thinking is not because they want control, it is to increase their chances of survival.

It is rather ironic, because those people he is calling morons died to protect his right to say this tripe.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6772|Portland, OR, USA

killer21 wrote:

Anyone who thinks the Corps is a brainwashing service branch is a frigging retard.  Most people who think this can not handle the Marine Corps and thus, are nothing but scary little pussies...
OK this is going to be my last word on the topic because I need to finish my Spanish project.  Spearhead, manipulation is the exact word I was searching for, just couldn't think of it.


But killer21 is a prime example of someone who has little background knowledge on the subject/can't think of any viable come back or argument to make so he has to take a jab at the opposing party.  If you cannot debate and/or can't say anything that means much, then don't post here because this is "debate and serious talk"... Not a mudslinging contest.

Learn to read between the lines and do yourself a favor and go into viewing things like these with an open mind, otherwise you'll come out even more ignorant than before and make yourself look like an ass when you open your mouth..

Edit:

|=-sL-.Cujucuyo. wrote:

Listen to the guys voice (as if you can't) he sounds so pathetic, he's an inbred moron, that's all he is. $5 he got beat up everyday at school.
damn you idiots are just full of it today.

Last edited by CommieChipmunk (2007-01-25 17:43:19)

jonsimon
Member
+224|6698
I don't know what's more disgusting, listening to his the voice in that video, or reading the dumbass empty-headed remarks on the first page of this thread.

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