Wallpaper
+303|6264|The pool

FloppY_ wrote:

P182:

Expensive case is expensive
It was only $110 the day after christmas
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

A new battery for my lappy
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Mr.Dooomed
Find your center.
+752|6598

CrazeD wrote:

Wallpaper wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

But the speed difference is negligible, and you'll only see it in benchmarks. The small gains don't justify the price IMO.
So the 2800 extra RPM on the Raptor doesnt help? Wtf? I thought 7200 drives were all limited by their RPMs
It does help in access and seek times, but it's only a very small amount. As far as transfer speed and such, they get beat by said drives above. No drive even comes close to taking full advantage of the bandwidth available, so the 7200 drives aren't limited in the slightest.
Just so I'm sure, you're comparing THIS to THIS

Well, I was really hoping to get a HDD that makes my BF2 and other game load times MUCH faster then what I have which is a three year old WD100 7200 something or rather. SO, if the load times from that raptor, are very similar to a Seagate or other WD drive, then...I should reconsider because I WOULD also like some storage space, and that 74 gig Raptor kind of sux.
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CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6400|Carnoustie MASSIF
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6684|Finland

I BOUGHT A MOTHER-FUCKING-ASS-KICKING-BUDGET-KILLING-AWSOME-PIECE-OF-SILICON

EVGA GTX 295 WOHOOOOOOOOO! I'm one of the 10 ppl in Finland that get their card in the beginning of next week.

https://www1.hardwareversand.de/resource?articleId=25002&size=2
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I BOUGHT A MOTHER-FUCKING-ASS-KICKING-BUDGET-KILLING-AWSOME-PIECE-OF-SILICON

EVGA GTX 295 WOHOOOOOOOOO! I'm one of the 10 ppl in Finland that get their card in the beginning of next week.

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/resource … amp;size=2
Like the X800, eh?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine

Im_Dooomed wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Wallpaper wrote:


So the 2800 extra RPM on the Raptor doesnt help? Wtf? I thought 7200 drives were all limited by their RPMs
It does help in access and seek times, but it's only a very small amount. As far as transfer speed and such, they get beat by said drives above. No drive even comes close to taking full advantage of the bandwidth available, so the 7200 drives aren't limited in the slightest.
Just so I'm sure, you're comparing THIS to THIS

Well, I was really hoping to get a HDD that makes my BF2 and other game load times MUCH faster then what I have which is a three year old WD100 7200 something or rather. SO, if the load times from that raptor, are very similar to a Seagate or other WD drive, then...I should reconsider because I WOULD also like some storage space, and that 74 gig Raptor kind of sux.
I haven't really checked benchmarks lately, but the last I knew the Samsung Spinpoint's were pretty much the fastest. Then the Western Digital 640GB (because it's only a single platter, makes it a lot faster). The Seagate 7200.11's or 7200.12's are also quite fast.

Honestly, the very small speed gains are not worth the price tag and lack of storage space on Raptors.

And also, more RAM = way faster BF2 load times. On XP, with 2GB RAM and my Seagate 250GB drive, I got around 40-50 second load times usually (from 0% to join game on an uncached map). When I went to 4GB RAM, I now load from 0% to join game in about 20 seconds.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6684|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I BOUGHT A MOTHER-FUCKING-ASS-KICKING-BUDGET-KILLING-AWSOME-PIECE-OF-SILICON

EVGA GTX 295 WOHOOOOOOOOO! I'm one of the 10 ppl in Finland that get their card in the beginning of next week.

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/resource … amp;size=2
Like the X800, eh?
Yeah...
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
FloppY_
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+1,010|6556|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Wallpaper wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

P182:

Expensive case is expensive
It was only $110 the day after christmas
Still too expensive for a case if you ask me

That is the price I would be willing to pay here,, but considering most hardware is at least +50% more expensive here, you won't get a P182 for anything less than $160
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7113|Reykjavík, Iceland.

FloppY_ wrote:

Wallpaper wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

P182:

Expensive case is expensive
It was only $110 the day after christmas
Still too expensive for a case if you ask me

That is the price I would be willing to pay here,, but considering most hardware is at least +50% more expensive here, you won't get a P182 for anything less than $160
50%? Pft, light-weight, it's double here. I bought my P182 for $330 back in 2007. Back then $330 was nothing, 20,000 ISK, now $330 are 41,000 ISK. The value of the USD in Icelandic Krones has DOUBLED in less than a year.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6556|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Sydney wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Wallpaper wrote:

It was only $110 the day after christmas
Still too expensive for a case if you ask me

That is the price I would be willing to pay here,, but considering most hardware is at least +50% more expensive here, you won't get a P182 for anything less than $160
50%? Pft, light-weight, it's double here. I bought my P182 for $330 back in 2007. Back then $330 was nothing, 20,000 ISK, now $330 are 41,000 ISK. The value of the USD in Icelandic Krones has DOUBLED in less than a year.
Iceland has suffered far, FAR more from the economical "crisis" than the rest of us over here
And the fact that you are not connected to the mainland makes stuff abit more pricey too

Last edited by FloppY_ (2009-01-08 09:58:13)

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CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Report if it's good. Sunbeam is not the most reputable company in my books, although that cooler seems to have positive reviews.
Just got it installed. It was a major bitch to install though. I had to remove my top case fan, remove my video card, and move my RAM from 1-3 to 2-4. After I got the heatsink installed, I had to remove my DVD drive to wiggle the case fan back in. o.O

But, idle temps for my 4800+ @ 3GHz @ 1.43V = 28*C.

I'll let you know what my load temps are when I find an accurate utility for Vista 64. CoreTemp, speedfan, everest all report wrong. The only one that's even remotely accurate is CoreCenter by MSI, and that doesn't work on Vista 64. Fuck.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6900

CrazeD wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Report if it's good. Sunbeam is not the most reputable company in my books, although that cooler seems to have positive reviews.
Just got it installed. It was a major bitch to install though. I had to remove my top case fan, remove my video card, and move my RAM from 1-3 to 2-4. After I got the heatsink installed, I had to remove my DVD drive to wiggle the case fan back in. o.O

But, idle temps for my 4800+ @ 3GHz @ 1.43V = 28*C.

I'll let you know what my load temps are when I find an accurate utility for Vista 64. CoreTemp, speedfan, everest all report wrong. The only one that's even remotely accurate is CoreCenter by MSI, and that doesn't work on Vista 64. Fuck.
RealTemp
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine

haffeysucks wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:


Report if it's good. Sunbeam is not the most reputable company in my books, although that cooler seems to have positive reviews.
Just got it installed. It was a major bitch to install though. I had to remove my top case fan, remove my video card, and move my RAM from 1-3 to 2-4. After I got the heatsink installed, I had to remove my DVD drive to wiggle the case fan back in. o.O

But, idle temps for my 4800+ @ 3GHz @ 1.43V = 28*C.

I'll let you know what my load temps are when I find an accurate utility for Vista 64. CoreTemp, speedfan, everest all report wrong. The only one that's even remotely accurate is CoreCenter by MSI, and that doesn't work on Vista 64. Fuck.
RealTemp
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a283/crazed_rider/next.jpg

Next.


I found out you can set an offset in CoreTemp. It reads around 15-18*C by default, and BIOS says 28*C idle, so I increased the offset about 12*C. I got around 40*C at load, but it's a guess as to how accurate that is.
Mr.Dooomed
Find your center.
+752|6598

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

https://www1.hardwareversand.de/resource?articleId=25002&size=2
ohmagod, just lookin at that makes me realize how unfamiliar i am with the latest tech
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Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6902

Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB 32MB HDD

For 117$

Deal?

I Think So...
Brasso
member
+1,549|6900

Gooners wrote:

Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB 32MB HDD

For 117$

Deal?

I Think So...
or get the same thing for $95 not in Canada...
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Stimey
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+786|6390|Ontario | Canada

Gooners wrote:

Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB 32MB HDD

For 117$

Deal?

I Think So...
WHAR.
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SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6409|New Jersey
I got a Logitech G25 Racing Wheel setup earlier this week.  Using it with my new PS3 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.  It rocks.  (Paddle shifters are cool.)

https://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/4734.jpg

Last edited by SpIk3y (2009-01-08 19:27:52)

KuSTaV
noice
+947|6781|Gold Coast
Jesus! How much was that?!
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SpIk3y
Minister of Silly Walks
+67|6409|New Jersey
$256 with shipping.  And worth every penny.  The wheel has two motors in it to mimic understeer, oversteer, and the friction of the tires on the road.  It even shakes around like crazy if you go off the track or hit something.  Each pedal has it's own stiffness - brake being the stiffest, accelerator being the least stiff.  You can shift three ways - six-speed H pattern, sequential, or paddle shifters.

It's really a must-have for any car people out there.  It feels like you're driving a real car.

Last edited by SpIk3y (2009-01-08 19:53:35)

Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN

max wrote:

# AMD AM2 4800+ (G2) 65W TDP
# M3A-H/HDMI
# cheap 2GB DDR2-800
# Scythe Katana 2
#giganews account

Today was kinda expensive tbh
Did you win the lottery or something?
CrazeD
Member
+368|6943|Maine

Naturn wrote:

max wrote:

# AMD AM2 4800+ (G2) 65W TDP
# M3A-H/HDMI
# cheap 2GB DDR2-800
# Scythe Katana 2
#giganews account

Today was kinda expensive tbh
Did you win the lottery or something?
That's like 2-300$. Must be a helluva cheap lottery.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6875|Greenwood, IN

CrazeD wrote:

Naturn wrote:

max wrote:

# AMD AM2 4800+ (G2) 65W TDP
# M3A-H/HDMI
# cheap 2GB DDR2-800
# Scythe Katana 2
#giganews account

Today was kinda expensive tbh
Did you win the lottery or something?
That's like 2-300$. Must be a helluva cheap lottery.
Referring to the fact of how much stuff he has already and he keeps buying more.  Just wondering out of curiosity.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6467|Winland

Naturn wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Naturn wrote:


Did you win the lottery or something?
That's like 2-300$. Must be a helluva cheap lottery.
Referring to the fact of how much stuff he has already and he keeps buying more.  Just wondering out of curiosity.
max is rich. I thought everyone knew that by now.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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