ATG
Banned
+5,233|6536|Global Command
Call me and old codger, but I miss the old days. I was paddled in 4th grade for skipping a class. This thread is meant to spark serious discussion, or I'da put it in the junk drawer. The pussification of America is serious.





Subject: Then verses now, which is a better way.

Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1973 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to
his car and gets his to show Jack.


2006 - School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail
and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized
students and teachers.

++++++++++++++++++++++




Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.


2006 - Police called, SWA T team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1973 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal.
Sits still in class.


2006 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School
gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives
him a whipping.


1973 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to
college and becomes a successful businessman.


2006 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster
care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that
she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's
mom has affair with psychologist.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some headache medicine to
school.

1973 - Mark shares headache medicine with Principal out on the smoking
dock.


2006 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car
searched for drugs and weapons.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++





Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2006: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper
articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a
requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit
against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned
from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing
lawns for a living because he can't speak English.
++++++++++++++++++++





Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July,
puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.

1973 - Ants die.

2006 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic
terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home,computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Last edited by ATG (2006-11-22 19:07:09)

TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6536|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia
Sounds like a much simpler time.
Kanye North
randy
+80|6471

TeamZephyr wrote:

Sounds like a much simpler time.

Last edited by Kanye North (2006-11-22 19:14:46)

PspRpg-7
-
+961|6705

I wish it were more like 1973...With the intrawebs.
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|6836|Grapevine, TX

ATG wrote:

The pussification of America is serious.
QFE! ATG I swear you are a genius; well great minds think a like they say!

I'm at work, but I will definitely chime in on this one, later. A very IMPORTANT  TOPIC, that not only need discussed, it needs ACTION to put an END OF THE PUSSIFICATION OF THE USofA!!!!
weirleader
Member
+3|6721|G.R., MI
Hey man - totally agree!

I'm a 10-year veteran of the public school system (yeah - not that old... but was around in '73) and boy do I wish I was a teacher back then.  Not that there weren't any problems, but the problems weren't solved back then by bending over backwards to not 'offend'.  Teaching was teaching... if you didn't want to pay attention, fine!  Flunk the class!  Take metal shop!

These days teaching is about entertaining, making the students 'feel good', and not being too harsh on them (in other words, you must ask Johnny at least 10 times to stop interrupting class before you can call his parent several times to set up a few meetings to discuss his behavior...  and if that doesn't work, he'll be suspended for a day or two - eventually, but allowed to make up all work missed.  After all, it's not HIS fault he's suspended!)
dubbs
Member
+105|6638|Lexington, KY

ATG wrote:

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2006: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper
articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a
requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit
against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned
from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing
lawns for a living because he can't speak English.
I think you mean that he will be working at a fast food place, or retail.  You have to learn his native language just to communicate with him, and you are not suppose to get mad, because the company is a global company.  Overall you look like the bad guy because you ask that they have someone who can speak the national language of the nation that Pedro lives in.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I have some to add:

Scenario:  Walmart is found to have hired illegal aliens.

1973:  Government would be doing a full audit on Walmart to see what other laws they have broken.

2006:  Everyone over looks what Walmart has done, and says that it is okay.  They have to keep their prices low some how.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario:  Person from a different country come to US and has no legal rights. Get shoot for trespassing on someone's farm after being warned not to come back once before. 

1973:   Judge laughs and tells the illegal that they have no right in the court. 

2006:  The judge tells the illegal that he gets the man's farm, but he has to sell it.  Because he was part of a violent act in the US, he can not become a US citizen quicker (he does not have a waiting period. BTW, this actually occurred in 2005.)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario:  A person dedicates their entire life to a company, and is about to retire.

1973:  A party is held for the person to celebrate his dedication to the company.  The company may even purchase a gift for the retiring person.

2006:   A few months/weeks before the person retires, the manager of said person ask for a meeting in his/her office.   Person about to be retire is told that their job is being out sourced and do not have a job.  Thank you for your service, but we have a very weak retirement package that will help you for a few months until you find another job, as if you will find one at your age.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Last edited by dubbs (2006-11-22 19:31:05)

Strngs012
Could I have 10,000 marbles please
+40|6425|Florida
I think Pedro was cutting my grass last week.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6781|Noizyland

1973: Ty does not exist. Much unhappyness in world.

2006: Ty exists. Much celebration in world.

1973 < 2006.
[Blinking eyes thing]
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Volatile
Member
+252|6711|Sextupling in Empire

Strngs012 wrote:

I think Pedro was cutting my grass last week.
yeah, also him and some of his friends stole my friend's car a couple months back.
Dieselboy
Flicker of beans since 1986
+87|6557|Reading, Basingrad
Same pussification in the UK

1973 - Someone flies the Union Jack with pride.....everyone else is fine about it
2006 - Someone flies the Union Jack and local council threatens legal action if it is not taken down as it offends muslims....yet allows muslims to fly the flag and set it on fire publicly

Last edited by Dieselboy (2006-11-22 19:40:55)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6714|67.222.138.85
Obviously a little extreme, but we need to get over alot of political tip-toeing.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6768

Yes, but...........

1973 - Chicks in porn had saggy boobs and hairy bushes.

2006 - Shaved and nice fake perky ta ta's.
Jbrar
rawr
+86|6548|Winterpeg, Canada
I agree ATG, same pussification everywhere now adays.
Dec45
Member
+12|6647
I couldn't even finish reading that. I felt your idea of the thread, but all of those were either largely exaggerated for totally fake and impossible.
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|6723|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

ATG wrote:

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.


2006 - Police called, SWA T team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the Principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how violence never solved anything.  Now I'm in college and have to deal with pussified professors.

Last edited by mcgid1 (2006-11-22 19:53:47)

usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6768

mcgid1 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.


2006 - Police called, SWA T team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how viloence never solved anything.
You should have been smart enough to know, that if you did have to defend yourself, and the school expelled you, any lawyer with half a brain would sue the school and you would be on the O'rly Factor.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6475

usmarine2005 wrote:

mcgid1 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.


2006 - Police called, SWA T team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how viloence never solved anything.
You should have been smart enough to know, that if you did have to defend yourself, and the school expelled you, any lawyer with half a brain would sue the school and you would be on the O'rly Factor.
Who the hell would want to be on the O'Riely Factor

Even many conserivtives hate him
Jbrar
rawr
+86|6548|Winterpeg, Canada

mcgid1 wrote:

I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how viloence never solved anything.
I had a similiar incident during a curling game in the 5th grade. Some kid with anger managment problems lashed out on me with his broom, almost hit me in the head, cept i ducked and took out his legs. That was my first ever fight, totally owned him; he was so angry he could keep his balance on the ice. Anyways, I head on over to the principal's office, get the speech on violence, than ask, "so I should've gotten stitches instead of being perfectly fine?" no answer, not even a phone call. Principal totally forgot about it.
noscci
Member
+0|6494|Louisiana

Dec45 wrote:

I couldn't even finish reading that. I felt your idea of the thread, but all of those were either largely exaggerated for totally fake and impossible.
Agreed.  Some of those claims are plain ridiculous.  Maybe it's just where I live, but fights result in a 1-3 day suspension.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6768

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

mcgid1 wrote:


I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how viloence never solved anything.
You should have been smart enough to know, that if you did have to defend yourself, and the school expelled you, any lawyer with half a brain would sue the school and you would be on the O'rly Factor.
Who the hell would want to be on the O'Riely Factor

Even many conserivtives hate him
Ok...Larry King, or any one of those idiots......just trying to prove a point.
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|6723|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

usmarine2005 wrote:

mcgid1 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.


2006 - Police called, SWA T team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark.
Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the Principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how violence never solved anything.
You should have been smart enough to know, that if you did have to defend yourself, and the school expelled you, any lawyer with half a brain would sue the school and you would be on the O'rly Factor.
Actually, it's law here in Austin that there is no such thing as self defense on school grounds only assault.  Both parties get a minimum of suspension for the first offense, the second is usually expulsion.  I know it's bull, but it's the current local law.

Last edited by mcgid1 (2006-11-22 19:58:26)

usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6768

mcgid1 wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

mcgid1 wrote:


I remember the first day of high school last year (and thankfully my last in that particular hell hole), we were told that on school grounds there is no such thing as self defense.  I then proceeded to blurt out "what the hell, if someone is trying to beat the crap out of me I'm supposed to sit there and take it!?!?" .  Got sent to the Principal's office for cursing and a lecture about how violence never solved anything.
You should have been smart enough to know, that if you did have to defend yourself, and the school expelled you, any lawyer with half a brain would sue the school and you would be on the O'rly Factor.
Actually, it's law here in Austin that there is no such thing as self defense on school grounds only assault.  Both parties get a minimum of suspension for the first offense, the second is usually expulsion.  I know it's bull, but it's the current local law.
Like I said...any lawyer with half a brain.
weamo8
Member
+50|6449|USA
pussification is my new favorite word... +1
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|6836|Grapevine, TX

noscci wrote:

Dec45 wrote:

I couldn't even finish reading that. I felt your idea of the thread, but all of those were either largely exaggerated for totally fake and impossible.
Agreed.  Some of those claims are plain ridiculous.  Maybe it's just where I live, but fights result in a 1-3 day suspension.
Fine example of the BLIND, PUSSIFICATION in action!!! Nothing Personal, I guess its your way of not living with any sense of reality. I watch out for your kind, very dangerous!

Last edited by (T)eflon(S)hadow (2006-11-22 20:13:49)

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