I'm wondering how the rest of the world feels about the election results. Do they feel the people of the US made the proper choice? I've read so many posts on how bad we are. Just wondering if their view has changed at all. Discuss
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Yes, I'd like to know some specifics from non-americans:
1) Do you even understand that we have 3 bodies of government (judicial, legislative, executive) and that two of those are most likely going from republican to democrat (which means a better balanced governement)? This will explain our government branches.
2) Are the 109th congressional views (right to far right republican) similar to those in your country?
3) Are the 110th congressional views going to be similar to those in your country?
4) Is Bush Satan or just an Angel of Death? lol, don't answer this one, I already know.
1) Do you even understand that we have 3 bodies of government (judicial, legislative, executive) and that two of those are most likely going from republican to democrat (which means a better balanced governement)? This will explain our government branches.
2) Are the 109th congressional views (right to far right republican) similar to those in your country?
3) Are the 110th congressional views going to be similar to those in your country?
4) Is Bush Satan or just an Angel of Death? lol, don't answer this one, I already know.
Last edited by IRONCHEF (2006-11-09 09:53:37)
I am from the rest of the world. i think change is good.
Seems a move in the right direction, most would view a tightening of Bush's leash a good thing, for America and for the world rather than him being untethered and completely unopposed and having free reign. For any other synopsis it's far too soon to say.
Edit : and we don't even have a fucking parliment at the minute lol
Edit : and we don't even have a fucking parliment at the minute lol
Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-11-09 10:00:50)
I'll admit I haven't got a clue how the US Government operate, i just find it confusing to the point i can't be arsed to bother with it. It not that i am a dork either, in fact I have 2 Masters! (don't ask)
To be honest to most of us non Americans your home policies are irrelevant and your government is still going to have a dodgy foreign policy irrespective who is in office.
To be honest to most of us non Americans your home policies are irrelevant and your government is still going to have a dodgy foreign policy irrespective who is in office.
Last edited by m3thod (2006-11-09 14:10:37)
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Like.. I don't care you guys are like 9.000 km away from me, why would I care? I don't even care about who rules my fucking country, they will all fuck up anyway..
I'm happy with the results, now lets get Rumsfield outtathaway.
There's a general feeling of elation and vindication. Lots of "And did you hear that fucker Rumsfeld got the chop too?" type comments on the tram home, etc. Yesterday felt like a brighter day for some reason. Like the future was no longer bleak: even though the Democrats are just as shifty as the Republicans and goodness knows what they have in store for the rest of the world. The jury is out for me until they make some major decisions. When I get the drift of what they're up to then I'll decide whether the future is or isn't actually bleak.
think of it as like Britian. Only think of the queen not having the power to Veto Parliment - well Bush is like the Queen only instead of being royalty it's called the executive & he does actually have the power to veto. Congress the House of Representatives is like the House of Commons and the Senate is like the House of Lords (only they have to be voted in unlike the House of Lords) - Jobs a good unm3thod wrote:
I'll admit I haven't got a clue how the US Government operate, i just find it confusing to the point i can't be arsed to bother with it. It not that i am a dork either, in fact I have 2 Masters! (don't ask)
To be honest to most us non Americans your home policies are irrelevant and your government is still going to have a dodgy foreign policy irrespective who is in office.
Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-11-09 10:33:26)
Done. Anything else?PBAsydney wrote:
I'm happy with the results, now lets get Rumsfield outtathaway.
Happened yesterday.
Bush did the "chopping" of Rumsfield. It appears both parties are trying to come closer together. That's the way it always looks after an election.
In any sense the Iraqi people seem to be happy. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061109/ap_ … q_rumsfeld
In any sense the Iraqi people seem to be happy. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061109/ap_ … q_rumsfeld
Xbone Stormsurgezz
1) Yes, I understand but you need to explain it to me a bit more. j/k. It's the same way here. We have judicial, legislative and executive. Sadly I can't say these 3 bodies are independent from each other as it should be in order to guarantee Democracy.IRONCHEF wrote:
Yes, I'd like to know some specifics from non-americans:
1) Do you even understand that we have 3 bodies of government (judicial, legislative, executive) and that two of those are most likely going from republican to democrat (which means a better balanced governement)? This will explain our government branches.
2) Are the 109th congressional views (right to far right republican) similar to those in your country?
3) Are the 110th congressional views going to be similar to those in your country?
4) Is Bush Satan or just an Angel of Death? lol, don't answer this one, I already know.
2) Argentina is a country where most people say "I'm liberal or lean to left" but it's more a centre right country. Anyway, the 109th US Congress, is a lot more conservative than the average Representatitve or Senator in Argentina.
3) This new Congress is more close to our average representative or Senator. I can't generalize because most politicians always act according to their personal interests before people interests.
4) He's just a bad politician and a bad president. The evil image I leave that for Chavez to say.
In response to the OP I see the elections results as positive for America. Now Bush will need a real approval from Congress before doing anything. That gives Democracy some balance.
Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-09 10:25:00)
Your close but not quite. More the wording. Congress is made up of "The senate" (100 senators-2 per state) and the "House of Representatives" (435 representatives-based on state population-the specific number of Representatives per state is adjusted after each census,every 10 years, to reflect its percentage of the entire population).IG-Calibre wrote:
think of it as like Britian. Only think of the queen having the power to Veto Parliment - well Bush is like the Queen only instead of being royalty it's called the executive, Congress is like the House Commons and the Senate is like the House of lords (only they have to be voted in unlike the House of Lords) - Jobs a good unm3thod wrote:
I'll admit I haven't got a clue how the US Government operate, i just find it confusing to the point i can't be arsed to bother with it. It not that i am a dork either, in fact I have 2 Masters! (don't ask)
To be honest to most us non Americans your home policies are irrelevant and your government is still going to have a dodgy foreign policy irrespective who is in office.
Executive - The executive is the branch of a government charged with implementing, or executing, the law and running the day-to-day affairs of the government or state.
Legislative - In addition to enacting laws, legislatures usually have exclusive authority to raise taxes and adopt the budget and other money bills. The consent of the legislature is also often required to ratify treaties and declare war.
Judicial - In law, the judiciary or judicature is the system of courts which administer justice in the name of the sovereign or state, and provide a mechanism for the resolution of disputes. Under the doctrine of the separation of powers, the judiciary is the branch of government primarily responsible for interpreting the law.
Legislative - In addition to enacting laws, legislatures usually have exclusive authority to raise taxes and adopt the budget and other money bills. The consent of the legislature is also often required to ratify treaties and declare war.
Judicial - In law, the judiciary or judicature is the system of courts which administer justice in the name of the sovereign or state, and provide a mechanism for the resolution of disputes. Under the doctrine of the separation of powers, the judiciary is the branch of government primarily responsible for interpreting the law.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Biased as I am living in America, I am unfortunately unable to add a confirmation one way or the other on if this change is good.
Personally, I cannot tell if it is good. Too long have I been under a congress that I, in actually, have little respect for whether it's one group of guys doing things or others. I still feel constantly that I am fighting AGAINST my "representatives" than voting with them.
Personally, I cannot tell if it is good. Too long have I been under a congress that I, in actually, have little respect for whether it's one group of guys doing things or others. I still feel constantly that I am fighting AGAINST my "representatives" than voting with them.
I don't believe it will change anything. The dems are as bad, corrupt and stinky as the reps. The left is the right and the right is the left and everyone bows to big business and Israel.
Exactly. It's just the Dems are less brazen.BN wrote:
I don't believe it will change anything. The dems are as bad, corrupt and stinky as the reps. The left is the right and the right is the left and everyone bows to big business and Israel.
Theres a lot about it in the news here but nobody seems to give a rats arse.
I'm Canadian.
All I know is the Democrats, Republicans, and some other party is running for senate or whatever, and I know the Dems won. I dunno if that's good or bad or anything lol.
All I care about is Liberal or Conservative.
All I know is the Democrats, Republicans, and some other party is running for senate or whatever, and I know the Dems won. I dunno if that's good or bad or anything lol.
All I care about is Liberal or Conservative.
Last edited by ryan_14 (2006-11-09 16:44:28)
lol
No really I'm not laughing at anyone's post, that's what I think about it... don't ask me why, probably because we can add to the world's photo collection of Dubya looking dumbfounded.
No really I'm not laughing at anyone's post, that's what I think about it... don't ask me why, probably because we can add to the world's photo collection of Dubya looking dumbfounded.
People near me in Australia are generally pretty happy.
One of the best things about this result is that it introduces some checks and balances, what with having different parties having control of different things (gov=dems, pres=rep). Even though I strongly dislike what bush and the republicans have done for the past 6 or so years, part of me thinks it might be better if the republicans still had the upper house just to stop one agenda being easily pushed through.
Australia for the last couple of months has been interesting, since the liberals have control of the upper and lower houses and have therefore been able to push all sorts of measures through - due to the lack of checks and balances.
One of the best things about this result is that it introduces some checks and balances, what with having different parties having control of different things (gov=dems, pres=rep). Even though I strongly dislike what bush and the republicans have done for the past 6 or so years, part of me thinks it might be better if the republicans still had the upper house just to stop one agenda being easily pushed through.
Australia for the last couple of months has been interesting, since the liberals have control of the upper and lower houses and have therefore been able to push all sorts of measures through - due to the lack of checks and balances.
im optomistic, but only time will tell...
Bush can still veto any legislation passed by a fully Democratic congress which doesn't have the 2/3 majority to override his veto.FrenziedAU wrote:
People near me in Australia are generally pretty happy.
One of the best things about this result is that it introduces some checks and balances, what with having different parties having control of different things (gov=dems, pres=rep). Even though I strongly dislike what bush and the republicans have done for the past 6 or so years, part of me thinks it might be better if the republicans still had the upper house just to stop one agenda being easily pushed through.
Australia for the last couple of months has been interesting, since the liberals have control of the upper and lower houses and have therefore been able to push all sorts of measures through - due to the lack of checks and balances.
Next two years will be very interesting and (hoepfully) better.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Just ask the terrorists, if you haven't heard the story, their happy.
Think I'm kidding....guess again.
Just watch CNN, they even ran a special on it interestingly enough.
Think I'm kidding....guess again.
Just watch CNN, they even ran a special on it interestingly enough.
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