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I live in St.Louis and can see why it is #1. However one cannot assume that it is all of St.Louis that is dangerous, it is mostly the urban areas of North and East St.Louis that cause much of the violence and crime for those ratings. East St.Louis is the home of dozens of gangs and drug rings.
The suburban counties in St.Louis are pretty safe though, anything on the outskirts or where I live.
The suburban counties in St.Louis are pretty safe though, anything on the outskirts or where I live.
Last edited by Hornet141 (2006-10-30 19:40:12)
hornet i dont give a shit if you live in fucking ladue bad shit still happens.......
south stl is getting pretty bad and its only a matter of time until it spreads far. besides the stl police are for the most part shit.
get yourself a gun and practice. dont know where to start. hit me up on here and ill take you down to bullseye on manchester by hampton.
well start with the easy stuff and have you shootin that piece of shit uzi they got there in no time.
then you can get your own and a CCW license and can protect yourself.
i got like VIP status down there, so if you want to go i could get your foot in the door for ya.....if your of age that is........
south stl is getting pretty bad and its only a matter of time until it spreads far. besides the stl police are for the most part shit.
get yourself a gun and practice. dont know where to start. hit me up on here and ill take you down to bullseye on manchester by hampton.
well start with the easy stuff and have you shootin that piece of shit uzi they got there in no time.
then you can get your own and a CCW license and can protect yourself.
i got like VIP status down there, so if you want to go i could get your foot in the door for ya.....if your of age that is........
Again Luxembourg at the top, WTF !!!apollo_fi wrote:
Results of a similar sort of study from 2003:
Personal safety rankings in top 50 cities –
Mercer’s Quality of Life Survey 2003 (New York =100)
1 LUXEMBOURG Luxembourg 133.5
2 BERN Switzerland 126.5
2 GENEVA Switzerland 126.5
2 HELSINKI Finland 126.5
2 SINGAPORE Singapore 126.5
2 ZURICH Switzerland 126.5
7 KATSUYAMA Japan 122
7 KOBE Japan 122
7 NAGOYA Japan 122
7 OMUTA Japan 122
7 OSAKA Japan 122
7 TOKYO Japan 122
7 TSUKUBA Japan 122
7 YOKKAICHI Japan 122
7 YOKOHAMA Japan 122
16 VIENNA Austria 120
17 STOCKHOLM Sweden 119.5
18 COPENHAGEN Denmark 115
18 DUBLIN Ireland 115
18 DÜSSELDORF Germany 115
18 FRANKFURT Germany 115
18 MUNICH Germany 115
18 NURNBERG Germany 115
18 OSLO Norway 115
25 AMSTERDAM Netherlands 113.5
25 AUCKLAND New Zealand 113.5
25 CALGARY Canada 113.5
25 MONTREAL Canada 113.5
25 OTTAWA Canada 113.5
25 PERTH Australia 113.5
25 TORONTO Canada 113.5
25 VANCOUVER Canada 113.5
25 WELLINGTON New Zealand 113.5
34 GLASGOW United Kingdom 113
34 PAPEETE French Polynesia 113
36 BRUSSELS Belgium 111.5
36 MELBOURNE Australia 111.5
36 SYDNEY Australia 111.5
39 BERLIN Germany 108
40 BARCELONA Spain 106.5
40 BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom 106.5
40 HONG KONG China 106.5
40 HONOLULU USA 106.5
40 HOUSTON USA 106.5
40 LEXINGTON USA 106.5
40 LIMASSOL Cyprus 106.5
40 MADRID Spain 106.5
40 PORT LOUIS Mauritius 106.5
40 SAN FRANCISCO USA 106.5
40 TAIPEI Taiwan 106.5
40 WINSTON-SALEM USA 106.5
52 HAMBURG Germany 106
52 LEIPZIG Germany 106
Source: Mercer Human Resource Consulting, 2003
Note: Mercer ranks only those cities where clients have asked for data, not
necessarily all major cities in the world.
come to Melbourne. Its safe. City of 4 million, and its nice still.
I'm not saying there's a direct correlation between gun laws and crime (i dont want to hijack), but gun laws are "tight like man's anus" [quote borat], and no one gets shot very often. Either that, or we're just nicer people.
I'm not saying there's a direct correlation between gun laws and crime (i dont want to hijack), but gun laws are "tight like man's anus" [quote borat], and no one gets shot very often. Either that, or we're just nicer people.
Im pretty sure this list is based off of violent crimes. Things like assault, murder, etc. Things such as break-ins, car theft, vandalizing, etc arent considered on this list. I believe it is violent crimes.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
wow, my city is 15th on safest?
edit: and 10th for 70k-99k
Yet my car still gets stolen...
I would actually like to see where Indianapolis ranks at, even though it isnt in either top 25.
Is this a personal attack? It has had time to spread and nothing has happened so generally I won't be concerned. Operating a gun is far from hard, a guy has an AK47(temporarily modified for automatic) at my work and has showed me how to use it.Parker wrote:
hornet i dont give a shit if you live in fucking ladue bad shit still happens.......
south stl is getting pretty bad and its only a matter of time until it spreads far. besides the stl police are for the most part shit.
get yourself a gun and practice. dont know where to start. hit me up on here and ill take you down to bullseye on manchester by hampton.
well start with the easy stuff and have you shootin that piece of shit uzi they got there in no time.
then you can get your own and a CCW license and can protect yourself.
i got like VIP status down there, so if you want to go i could get your foot in the door for ya.....if your of age that is........
But I'm still trying to figure out if you are attacking me in that post? If so, why?
I was curious about Indy too. The bad thing about Gary, In is that it is just a very poverty ridden suburb of Chicago. The two might as well be the same City, you wouldn't even know that you were going from one to the other if you didn't see the state line sign.{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:
Im pretty sure this list is based off of violent crimes. Things like assault, murder, etc. Things such as break-ins, car theft, vandalizing, etc arent considered on this list. I believe it is violent crimes.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
wow, my city is 15th on safest?
edit: and 10th for 70k-99k
Yet my car still gets stolen...
I would actually like to see where Indianapolis ranks at, even though it isnt in either top 25.
Yeah JG, Gary is just a shit hole. Your right, you wouldnt notice the difference had you not passed a sign that points out your crossing the state line. Same goes with Michigan City, Crown Point, and all those other cities up along the lake area. Crown point is the nice suburb of Gary, and its only 30 minutes from Chicago. It would be interesting to see where Indy ranks at. It not the worst city obviously, but I know its definitely alot more dangerous than some people would think.
If you notice though, on that list, for the Metro areas, M.D. ranks number 1 lol, no town, no city, just Maryland.
I would agree lol. The parts of D.C. I have been too didnt seem too bad...but the surrounding metro areas are a different story. I stayed at a hotel in Maryland, a couple blocks down the street from the University of Maryland. A couple blocks in the opposite direction became a change of scenery. It went from a nice, decent college neighborhood, to bar covered windows, police having people at gun point at 2 separate locations within a block of each other. That area was pretty run down, which doesnt necessarily mean that its bad, but from what I gathered, the area we drove through was pretty bad.....or so it seemed.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Locate Washington D.C. on that list. lol
If you notice though, on that list, for the Metro areas, M.D. ranks number 1 lol, no town, no city, just Maryland.
Hornet141 I think Parker was trying to be helpful. No problem I'm just trying to help also
Sorry for the weird double post and deletion and repost or whatever.
Sorry for the weird double post and deletion and repost or whatever.
Last edited by JG1567JG (2006-10-30 20:15:32)
Oh I see, well it was hard for me to see, lol.JG1567JG wrote:
Hornet141 I think Parker was trying to be helpful.
Sorry I guess.
eh, not even surprise DC is on the most dangerous
yay we are no longer in top 10 ... only 15th!!!!
if i was trying to attack you i wouldnt offer to teach you how to defend yourself. and as for shooting a kalishnikov, well my friend that is about the least difficult thing you could do with a firearm. no no im talking about real skill with a pistol. after all when the shit hits the fan you cant very well pull out an ak that has a nifty trigger sear to blow everyone away BF2 style. and as for operating a gun is not hard well i guess if the only thing you know how to use is that ak then i guess it isnt hard, though impractical.
......in fact if your game since operating a firearm is not hard i will give you $20 to shoot a HANDGUN accuratly @ SEVEN yards. thats a 4 inch group @ 7 yards........7 yards is nothing. sounds like a quick $20 for you. but if you dont its twenty for me.......well call it 8 out of 10 shots....i got the place and i can even get it so were the only ones there, so your concentration wont get messed up. any gun except .22s. they rent pistols and you can use whichever one you would like........if your game......and i dont know why you wouldnt be, its free money for you. since its all so simple.
......in fact if your game since operating a firearm is not hard i will give you $20 to shoot a HANDGUN accuratly @ SEVEN yards. thats a 4 inch group @ 7 yards........7 yards is nothing. sounds like a quick $20 for you. but if you dont its twenty for me.......well call it 8 out of 10 shots....i got the place and i can even get it so were the only ones there, so your concentration wont get messed up. any gun except .22s. they rent pistols and you can use whichever one you would like........if your game......and i dont know why you wouldnt be, its free money for you. since its all so simple.
that's right, macon, georgia in there twice. usually we're top ten in the overall list when adjusted for population. Seriously though, I literally live right on the edge of the "hood" (weird distribution of demographics here, roman revival house 3 doors down from me just went for 1.1 mil, yet the entire street of houses behind us isn't worth 50,000) but i feel perfectly fine walking anywhere. if this is considered dangerous people have nothing to worry about
ok, Glasgow and Birmingham? One of my mates lived in Birmingham and he used to carry his wallet in his sock and had a fake one with loose change and a couple of store cards in as he was so sick of being mugged.Polux wrote:
Again Luxembourg at the top, WTF !!!apollo_fi wrote:
Results of a similar sort of study from 2003:
Personal safety rankings in top 50 cities –
Mercer’s Quality of Life Survey 2003 (New York =100)
1 LUXEMBOURG Luxembourg 133.5
2 BERN Switzerland 126.5
2 GENEVA Switzerland 126.5
2 HELSINKI Finland 126.5
2 SINGAPORE Singapore 126.5
2 ZURICH Switzerland 126.5
7 KATSUYAMA Japan 122
7 KOBE Japan 122
7 NAGOYA Japan 122
7 OMUTA Japan 122
7 OSAKA Japan 122
7 TOKYO Japan 122
7 TSUKUBA Japan 122
7 YOKKAICHI Japan 122
7 YOKOHAMA Japan 122
16 VIENNA Austria 120
17 STOCKHOLM Sweden 119.5
18 COPENHAGEN Denmark 115
18 DUBLIN Ireland 115
18 DÜSSELDORF Germany 115
18 FRANKFURT Germany 115
18 MUNICH Germany 115
18 NURNBERG Germany 115
18 OSLO Norway 115
25 AMSTERDAM Netherlands 113.5
25 AUCKLAND New Zealand 113.5
25 CALGARY Canada 113.5
25 MONTREAL Canada 113.5
25 OTTAWA Canada 113.5
25 PERTH Australia 113.5
25 TORONTO Canada 113.5
25 VANCOUVER Canada 113.5
25 WELLINGTON New Zealand 113.5
34 GLASGOW United Kingdom 113
34 PAPEETE French Polynesia 113
36 BRUSSELS Belgium 111.5
36 MELBOURNE Australia 111.5
36 SYDNEY Australia 111.5
39 BERLIN Germany 108
40 BARCELONA Spain 106.5
40 BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom 106.5
40 HONG KONG China 106.5
40 HONOLULU USA 106.5
40 HOUSTON USA 106.5
40 LEXINGTON USA 106.5
40 LIMASSOL Cyprus 106.5
40 MADRID Spain 106.5
40 PORT LOUIS Mauritius 106.5
40 SAN FRANCISCO USA 106.5
40 TAIPEI Taiwan 106.5
40 WINSTON-SALEM USA 106.5
52 HAMBURG Germany 106
52 LEIPZIG Germany 106
Source: Mercer Human Resource Consulting, 2003
Note: Mercer ranks only those cities where clients have asked for data, not
necessarily all major cities in the world.
Wow Baltimore represent!
Ah the old Negro Modella - the closest thing to Guiness I could get when I was home sick living in Mexico!! not a bad beer at allATG wrote:
I go through Compton on a regular basis, There are some kick ass little hole in the wall taco joints.
My favorite lunch; 2 Negro Modellas, carnitas plate and salso that makes you sweat, oh and a book.
I think the report is for violent crime per capita....IRONCHEF wrote:
I think Richmond is much worse than Oakland, per capita. What baffles me is San Jose is safest in its size category. Obviously, the people doing the survey have never driven in San Jose (has highest vietnamese population outside of vietnam in the world and is host to many other foreign countries (afghanistan, pakistan, and other asian countries) who do not produce the best quality drivers. Commuting through San Jose is a death wish..no matter what lane you choose.
And I'm from St. Louis - trust me, no sane white people live in the city. But what you folks don't know is it has a lot to do with East St. Louis, Illlinois. It only has a population of about 30,000 so its half the size needed to be on the list. But I promise you, East STL is 3X as dangerous as St. Louis. Walking down the street is a death wish. I was in college taking photos for a black and white photography class. I found myself across the river near the train yard (I like trains) and I was straight up followed for about two miles by this hoopty jalopy. I ran red light, got on the highway and I was gone.
Alright, we come in 9th place for most dangerous!
3rd place for population 75,000 - 99,999
3rd place for population 75,000 - 99,999
Last edited by bubbass (2006-10-31 08:05:36)
ATG I think you'd get a kick out of this blog The Great Taco Hunt: A guide to the Los Angeles taco scene.ATG wrote:
I go through Compton on a regular basis, There are some kick ass little hole in the wall taco joints.
My favorite lunch; 2 Negro Modellas, carnitas plate and salso that makes you sweat, oh and a book.
I wanna live in Wisconsin!The_Shipbuilder wrote:
13th annual report from Morgan Quitno Press
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3671/safestxt6.png
Hey where is New Orleans on the list????
Go Ohio, 4 cities on the list. Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, and Youngstown. Wonder how far we would have to go to Add Dayton to the list.
They probably got an exemption with the large flux in population, they couldn't tell which category to put it in.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Hey where is New Orleans on the list????
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