DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|6950|Germany, near Koblenz
Sure we're daydreaming here and all know that we'll get nothing, but I'd like to see something new on SF too.

- Beeing able to play all maps either at day or at night (as allready mentioned above) should be easy to do and effectively doubles the number of maps.

- Allowing grapling hooks at TIG should be easy to do too, will bring a perfect boost to this map and allows to play it IO too.

- A real new map may include all the stuff we allready know (armies, vehicles, buildings - just like RtJ) to give it a greater chance of relisation, allthough "all new" would be better.
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6764|Doncaster, UK
Although I think including a new map in a patch which can't be accessed by 100% of the community is a little unfair and would almost definitely have people up in arms about EA/DiCE screwing people over, I would love to see such a well known map as Karkand ported over as a night map.

That would simply rule.

Last edited by DoctorFruitloop (2006-09-20 03:10:24)

scottomus0
Teh forum ghey!
+172|6855|Wigan. Manchester. England.
Ahh fucking men!!!
Sone
i piss excellence
+22|6742|Houston (Spring), TX
For some reason I only like Ghost Town and Warlord... I really can't stand any of the other maps.  Worst? Iron Gator (horrible setup).
s()mtingWong
Member
+48|6911
Warlords 2 and make it Insurgents Vs Navy Seals.
daffytag
cheese-it!
+104|6793
I think what they really need to do is allow SF maps to be played from vanilla. That way servers could rotate e.g. from mashtuur too surge. Its how I think it should have always been done.
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|6863|Ohio
I think it would be pretty cool to play Karkand as SEALs and MECSF, totally the same as it is now, only with Grapling hooks, Zip lines, and maybe throw in 2 attack choppers and a transport helo. Then there could be helipads on top of buildings, like the square and the warehouse.
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6779|Cheshire, UK
There is a need for more SF maps especially since SF was a booster pack that was a similar price to BF2 Vanilla when that came out.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6904

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Although I think including a new map in a patch which can't be accessed by 100% of the community is a little unfair and would almost definitely have people up in arms about EA/DiCE screwing people over, I would love to see such a well known map as Karkand ported over as a night map.

That would simply rule.
I have disagree about the community getting screwed by EA/DICE.  What I'd love to see is a $10 booster pack for SF like they did for vanilla BF2.  3 or 4 maps.  Say 1 map of Seals vs Spetznas, 1 of SAS vs MECSF, and either Rebel vs Spetznas or Seals vs Insurgents. 

I have to agree that EA/DICE has not been as good to those who like SF more than vanilla. 

I like both EF and AF so I'd be willing to pay $10 for 3 good quality SF maps.  I'd prefer they all be day maps  but even if they weren't I'd play them.  I'm so sick of Warlord and Ghost Town that I don't play much SF except for Iron Gator and I'm starting to get tired of it.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6681|cuntshitlake

SF FTW

but it would first need ALL weapons. I hate not having the l96...
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6779|Cheshire, UK
The way that I see it is that we had to pay almost the full price of the original game to get the Special forces add on, not the £6 that the AF and EF were. In which case we have seen extra maps put in to the vanilla game which cost £20 so why not put extra maps in to SF which also cost £20.

This is regardless of what part of BF2 people play as it is up to us if we want to pay the extra money to have the booster packs - £20 for SF - £6 for EF - £6 for AF
Master*
Banned
+416|6713|United States

Sone wrote:

For some reason I only like Ghost Town and Warlord... I really can't stand any of the other maps.  Worst? Iron Gator (horrible setup).
Iron Gator sucks? i dont think so https://f10.putfile.com/thumb/8/22414462779.png
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6779|Cheshire, UK

Masterstyle wrote:

Sone wrote:

For some reason I only like Ghost Town and Warlord... I really can't stand any of the other maps.  Worst? Iron Gator (horrible setup).
Iron Gator sucks? i dont think so http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/8/22414462779.png
I wouldn't like to see Iron Gator Infantry Only though - All that swimming? It would like shooting fish in a barrel

DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6764|Doncaster, UK

DSRTurtle wrote:

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Although I think including a new map in a patch which can't be accessed by 100% of the community is a little unfair and would almost definitely have people up in arms about EA/DiCE screwing people over, I would love to see such a well known map as Karkand ported over as a night map.

That would simply rule.
I have disagree about the community getting screwed by EA/DICE.  What I'd love to see is a $10 booster pack for SF like they did for vanilla BF2.  3 or 4 maps.  Say 1 map of Seals vs Spetznas, 1 of SAS vs MECSF, and either Rebel vs Spetznas or Seals vs Insurgents. 

I have to agree that EA/DICE has not been as good to those who like SF more than vanilla. 

I like both EF and AF so I'd be willing to pay $10 for 3 good quality SF maps.  I'd prefer they all be day maps  but even if they weren't I'd play them.  I'm so sick of Warlord and Ghost Town that I don't play much SF except for Iron Gator and I'm starting to get tired of it.
I didn't say that EA/DiCE had screwed over the community, just that I thought there would be a lot of people who would immediately start waving there hands about shouting "zomg EA and DiCE are n00bz, why don't we get a new mapzor!!!!11111onezor".

I would agree that EA have not released anything new for SF but you have to remember that SF is in itself an expansion, not a game in it own rights. I would imagine that they would view releasing an expansion pack for an expansion pack as a waste of their resources as it would not be available to all of their customer base.

Now since they have been pushing the deluxe edition of BF2 which includes SF then maybe the number of SF owners has reached a point where it would be financially viable to put more resources into developing SF material.

I love SF and really need to spend more time on it. I've not been fond of night maps but I thinkn that is a result of my unfamiliarity with the map whereas were such a popular map as Karkand or Sharqi ported over but at night the large majority of people playing the map would be more or less familiar with the layout, but the style of play would change dramatically. More accessible roofs, places to hide and C4 armour, stalking the alleyways and tight areas with nightvision, these are all things which I think a huge proportion of the community would enjoy.

It's just my humble opinion, but I reckon a map of this style could be seriously intense and fun to play.
TrashBlinD
french canadians suck
+135|6860|can

SkoobyDu wrote:

Masterstyle wrote:

Sone wrote:

For some reason I only like Ghost Town and Warlord... I really can't stand any of the other maps.  Worst? Iron Gator (horrible setup).
Iron Gator sucks? i dont think so http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/8/22414462779.png
I wouldn't like to see Iron Gator Infantry Only though - All that swimming? It would like shooting fish in a barrel

There are boats in IO.
Lionbeat
Member
+9|6864|LONDON
Man, I havn't played enough SF. I would play more, but my mates are having probs installing it, because of EA's FUCKING account name system on their download tool. I personally can't get EF or AF because of that tool. My user name doesn't exist. Any help on this - please PM me. You'll get my day's karma allowance.

Second, I'm in the UK so please recommend some good SF servers where people play as a team, and I'll look em up tonight! SF needs playing!
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6779|Cheshire, UK

TrashBlinD wrote:

SkoobyDu wrote:

Masterstyle wrote:


Iron Gator sucks? i dont think so http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/8/22414462779.png
I wouldn't like to see Iron Gator Infantry Only though - All that swimming? It would like shooting fish in a barrel

There are boats in IO.
[humour] It was a joke [/humour]

SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6779|Cheshire, UK

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

DSRTurtle wrote:

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Although I think including a new map in a patch which can't be accessed by 100% of the community is a little unfair and would almost definitely have people up in arms about EA/DiCE screwing people over, I would love to see such a well known map as Karkand ported over as a night map.

That would simply rule.
I have disagree about the community getting screwed by EA/DICE.  What I'd love to see is a $10 booster pack for SF like they did for vanilla BF2.  3 or 4 maps.  Say 1 map of Seals vs Spetznas, 1 of SAS vs MECSF, and either Rebel vs Spetznas or Seals vs Insurgents. 

I have to agree that EA/DICE has not been as good to those who like SF more than vanilla. 

I like both EF and AF so I'd be willing to pay $10 for 3 good quality SF maps.  I'd prefer they all be day maps  but even if they weren't I'd play them.  I'm so sick of Warlord and Ghost Town that I don't play much SF except for Iron Gator and I'm starting to get tired of it.
I didn't say that EA/DiCE had screwed over the community, just that I thought there would be a lot of people who would immediately start waving there hands about shouting "zomg EA and DiCE are n00bz, why don't we get a new mapzor!!!!11111onezor".

I would agree that EA have not released anything new for SF but you have to remember that SF is in itself an expansion, not a game in it own rights. I would imagine that they would view releasing an expansion pack for an expansion pack as a waste of their resources as it would not be available to all of their customer base.

Now since they have been pushing the deluxe edition of BF2 which includes SF then maybe the number of SF owners has reached a point where it would be financially viable to put more resources into developing SF material.

I love SF and really need to spend more time on it. I've not been fond of night maps but I thinkn that is a result of my unfamiliarity with the map whereas were such a popular map as Karkand or Sharqi ported over but at night the large majority of people playing the map would be more or less familiar with the layout, but the style of play would change dramatically. More accessible roofs, places to hide and C4 armour, stalking the alleyways and tight areas with nightvision, these are all things which I think a huge proportion of the community would enjoy.

It's just my humble opinion, but I reckon a map of this style could be seriously intense and fun to play.
Agreed I would love to see an urban night map, I can fore see a problem with claymore spamming though...
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6904
DoctorFruitloop and SkoobyDu I want entirely new maps.  Yes Karkand or Sharqi as a  night map with zip lines and grapling hooks would be different.  However, the spawn points are still well known by most players.  I personally love the challenge of new maps.  The 3 night maps included are fun to play.  BUt you only have 2 or 3 maps for each army.  I'd like to have a new one for each army for variety.

Last edited by DSRTurtle (2006-09-20 07:57:47)

Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6681|Tyne & Wear, England

daffytag wrote:

I think what they really need to do is allow SF maps to be played from vanilla. That way servers could rotate e.g. from mashtuur too surge. Its how I think it should have always been done.
Yep i absolutely agree, i had thought of that often, it would bring the two communities together.  So we would see more people from Vanilla playing SF and vice versa.  Is it me or does this just seem like common sense, it would be so easy to do as well.
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syntaxmax642
Member
+32|6843|Seattle
What they need to do is redo Karkand as a SF map. With Day and Night options. That way you could serve your time in SF in kark...
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6764|Doncaster, UK
You're forgetting the zip lines and grappling hooks aspect of SF. I hate to think what glitches could be found in the vanilla BF2 maps if someone had SF tools.

@DSRTurtle, Karkand, Sharqi and Mashtuur with new spawn points and night would pretty much be new maps. Different tactics needed, different or no vehicles (just an elite force on a mission). I think it would be fantastic and would require less work by EA and DiCE than totally new maps. We could actually see this.
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6783|Area 51

Masterstyle wrote:

no they should make a new-age civil war in america (like around 2020) and make it the union versus the confederates again! so we can have more maps based in the god ol' USA.

EDIT: or maybe im just crazy
My pick will be the EDIT
Master*
Banned
+416|6713|United States

syntaxmax642 wrote:

What they need to do is redo Karkand as a SF map. With Day and Night options. That way you could serve your time in SF in kark...
um.. can we say karkand whore?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p … at+karkand
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6681|Tyne & Wear, England
This is the reason why they won't create a SF booster/map pack:

The reason why they won't create a booster pack for SF and never have and never will is because it would be totally unprofitable and unproductive, which is fair enough really (they are out to make money).  The reason that EA/Dice made booster packs for Vanilla is because there are 5000 (I don't know the exact number because i rarely play it) or so servers and way way more people who play Vanilla who would buy the booster packs.  When we look at SF however there are only about 310 servers with far less players, therefore they would actually lose money creating a SF booster pack because not enough people would buy it to cover EA/Dice's overheads which they incurred in making the booster pack.

Last edited by KILLSWITCH (2006-09-20 08:15:41)

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