younggun
Member
+28|6945
Is socket 939 really dead, now that AM2 is out?

939 was going strong and was the way to go and now since AM2 is out everybody is saying its dead...what do you guys think?
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7053|Chicago.
Yes, The 939 has been put into retirement.
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|6946|Ohio
well im definitely l getting an AM2
mp30
Cynicism is an art, right?
+13|7033|It Rarely Rains in Seattle
It's dead... and CHEAP! Time for me to pick up a new processor.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6820|Montucky

mp30 wrote:

It's dead... and CHEAP! Time for me to pick up a new processor.
me too
anthrax1179
Banned
+5|6941|immigrant mecka (UK)
most likley yes, but your comp should last for a little while yet if you've got socket 939...
thts the problem with pc's, you buy somethin and 2-3 months down the line its out of date and costs half what u payed for it. but thts the way it goes. dont worry to much, ive still got a socket A and its done me fine up till now but i may have to update very soon.
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|6944|Deep In The South Of Texas
939 may be at the endo of it's pruduction life, but that doesn't mean it's obsolete. AM2 still doesn't make much of a performance difference, even with it's DDR2 support.

I'm still on Socket A too, and I plan on getting a 3700+ Sandy, mobo and midrange video card to hold me over until AMD's K8L and DX10 cards come out.
MECtallica
Member
+73|6806|jalalabad
yea AM2 is barely diff than 939..... if you have a good 939 proc (4000+) no point in upgrading to an AM2 board...

I dunno what AMD was thinking with AM2...
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7022|California

C2d > Am2
-101-InvaderZim
Member
+42|7145|Waikato, Aotearoa
I do belive AM2 was created so that AMD boards could run DDR2 RAM
MECtallica
Member
+73|6806|jalalabad
yea but, lol why kill 939 then?
younggun
Member
+28|6945

MECtallica wrote:

yea but, lol why kill 939 then?
Thats what doesn't make sense! 939 was good...so they could have kept it even when they introduced AM2. Should have held onto it until atleast mid-late 2007.
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|6944|Deep In The South Of Texas

younggun wrote:

MECtallica wrote:

yea but, lol why kill 939 then?
Thats what doesn't make sense! 939 was good...so they could have kept it even when they introduced AM2. Should have held onto it until atleast mid-late 2007.
One of the reasons they killed 939 is so that their facilities will be available to manufacture AM2 and K8L. And of course so that everyone will have to buy the new CPUs once the last of the 939s are gone.
InnerMonkey
Member
+62|7020
This is good news for me.  I have several home systems and it's a bitch to keep them all decent performers.  It'll take a little while for prices to tank, but then I'll be able to upgrade the wife's pc and my 2 servers to cheap 'dead' 939 systems for a fraction of the cost.
ShotYourSix
Boldly going nowhere...
+196|7021|Las Vegas

InnerMonkey wrote:

This is good news for me.  I have several home systems and it's a bitch to keep them all decent performers.  It'll take a little while for prices to tank, but then I'll be able to upgrade the wife's pc and my 2 servers to cheap 'dead' 939 systems for a fraction of the cost.
Agreed, while Intel has taken the performance crown, this is a great thing for anyone looking to upgrade a 939 platform.  prices are at rock bottom (well, not quite but getting there), performance is still very good even if not at the top anymore.   just don't wait too long, as chips run out they are going to go up in price.

Edit:  My only problem with 939 is that I have a 939 FX60.  There is nowhere to go from here besides Conroe.  I really wish AMD had something to combat with because I would rather continue buying AMD chips.  Unfortunately, conroe leaves me with little or no reason to do so.

Last edited by ShotYourSix (2006-08-12 18:17:47)

InnerMonkey
Member
+62|7020
I'm in a similar boat, but it'll be 6 months to a year before I upgrade my gaming rig, so it's useless for me to concern myself with CPU roadmaps for the time being.  AMD may be back on top before I upgrade.

I've got too many PCs at home, so I do trickle-down upgrades.  My wife's machine is a Athlon XP 2200, which will be upgraded to some 939 mobo with my present CPU, I'll get a new CPU on the cheap, and I'll use my wife's PC components to replace my oldest machine  It's an old Optiplex GX1 (pent II 450) Redhat linux box I use as an personal HTTP/mail server.  It works fine, but it's only tolerable because I never run anything in graphical mode(slow!).  I've got a socketA sempron box for my other server, and although it'll be around for a while, it'll be a cheap upgrade in a year or two when 939 stuff is next to worthless.  I bought that Sempron when Socket A was all but dead and I paid less than 200 bucks for a mobo, 512mb ram, and a Sempron 2200.  Not super fast, but good enough for a server and far better than the CeleronA based system it replaced.  The other few machines...hell....I dunno.  I'll just upgrade as deals present themselves.

Last edited by InnerMonkey (2006-08-12 18:51:54)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

939 is far from dead.

AM2 is rubbish, overpriced and offers very little in the way of performance increases. 2% in some tasks and in some other tasks it is slower than 939 versions.

The great thing about the release of AM2, is that 939 chips have had their prices slashed - hurray!!!

All about the conroe (Core 2 Duo) chips now though.

AM2 is really, really shit - anyone who says otherwise is just lying. Certainly doesn't justify the extra expense, especially since the RAM costs much more.
InnerMonkey
Member
+62|7020
I'm not saying AM2 is better in any way, but the fact is that with AMD going that route, 939 production will dwindle to nothing.  No production==dead, but that doesn't mean it won't still be on store shelves for a while.  Hell, you can still find SocketA on store shelves, but few people would argue that it isn't a dead chipset.

We're still too near the price cuts and Conroe release to completely rule AMD out.  I've bought AMD for many years (since x486 was the shit), not because it was the fastest, but because the price vs. performance was more to my liking.  I run dedicated machines for several things (filesharing and network printing, WAN services, gaming, home security), as I've never liked having too many eggs in one basket.  Outside of the gaming world, I have no need for the bestest most expensive of processors for these tasks.  Even on the gaming side, I never ever buy latest and greatest.  I'm confident I'll be buying AMD, for at least some tasks, well into the future.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7018

Bertster7 wrote:

939 is far from dead.

AM2 is rubbish, overpriced and offers very little in the way of performance increases. 2% in some tasks and in some other tasks it is slower than 939 versions.

The great thing about the release of AM2, is that 939 chips have had their prices slashed - hurray!!!

All about the conroe (Core 2 Duo) chips now though.

AM2 is really, really shit - anyone who says otherwise is just lying. Certainly doesn't justify the extra expense, especially since the RAM costs much more.
later ddr ram will be really expensive... kinda like how RDram is now =/

AMD has nothing to come against conroe now, except for that 4X4 system which practically no one will pay for. heres whats gonna happen

intel
2007: 45nm cpus, quad core cpus
2008: nelahem
AMD:
65nm cpus
2008: quad core K8L
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
InnerMonkey
Member
+62|7020
RDram never saw anything near the market penetration that DDR saw.  There will be lots of DDR for years to come, even if you have to buy used.  Last fall I had to buy EDO ram for a Diagnostic machine at work.  I was still able to find it new, and it was dirt cheap.  How's long has it been since that stuff was 'abandoned' by mobo chipsets?  Mid-to-late nineties?

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