BF2S Forums Attacking uncaps.

iPoon.be wrote:

i agree, but only after all the flags have been taken. It doesnt matter anyway, most people ignore rules :p

pfc_toecutter wrote:

dhoar4 wrote:

I've tried escaping in a boat, but of course, the boat can't outrun a J-10

Don't mean to derail here, but...

We were stuck on the carrier on wake when I suggested we all take a boat.  We had like 5 or six boats going at once.  There were just too many targets.  It was hilarious.

ShotYourSix wrote:

OpsChief wrote:

ShotYourSix wrote:

If EA had only spelled it out a bit more clearly in the manual, this whole debate would be nonexistant.  Unfortunately, they only went so far as to suggest arty strikes on enemy commander assets.  While most would agree that it was the intention of the game designers to facillitate battle in the uncaps, it is way too open to interpetation.  Damn EA for not making a clear statemement one way or the other!

I doubt EA could be coerced to take a stance one way or another at this point.

EA has taken a stance. They don't have to say "it's OK to spawncamp". They didn't put out a rule against it so it is OK.

In the new ROE you see that any variations in the basic rules must be spelled out on the server. Since no EA rules exist defining and blocking spawncamping or baseraping then they are part of the basic game design and therefore allowed. Remember those terms pre-existed BF2 but are a private creation post-release of BF2, the real deal is called Strategic Raids, ambushes and Battlefield Interdiction. EA designed BF2 to have plenty of ways and places to spawn so you didn't have to worry about ambushes.

Is there anywhere EA/Dice have said that the red circle-slash means no-go zone?

Some people think it is a way to statpad lol -  creating rules that keep you from dying is also a form of stat padding if you use that logic.  If people continue to mindlessly respawn into an ambush site and if it is the only point you have left, guess what? you lost the game!!!  Stop dying and try again next game.

How many non-camp rules can you have before your rules start creating inflated scores beyond game design?

Bottom line - last generation FPS games needed non-camp rules because they didn't have all the options BF2 has to spawn, fight and win. Please learn BF2 and stop turning it into something less. Or go play on a server with spawnfences.

WTF are you telling this to ME for?  I've never argued for spawnfences.  In fact, if you dont mind me quoting myself I'll remind you what I said earlier in the thread:

ShotYourSix wrote:

I'm all for base raping, including when it is my own base.  That's just part of the game and the way it was meant to be played.

If you absolutely can not handle this concept, well, you can bite me as I slaughter your panzy whining ass in your own base.

Enough said.

I'm pretty sure you misconstrued what I wrote.  I was only lamenting the fact that while it seems pretty clear that EA intended attacking uncaps, that it's too bad they didnt make it clearer in the documentation.  Jesus, if you are going to argue your point, at least have the good sense to argue it with people who don't already agree with you.

krazed wrote:

base raping and spawn raping will be a bannable offence on our server when we get it up and running, that pretty much sums it up:\

OpsChief wrote:

OGdR_MadMax wrote:

elmo1337 wrote:

war = hell

baseraping = hell

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baseraping = allowed

BF2 = Game
Game = Fun
Baseraper (normally 1-2 jets and a helo) < Victim (8-32 people)
more victims than rapists
=>
Baserape = No Fun (at least for the victims)
Noob = No fun
Baserape = Noob
q.e.d.

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Prime Logical Fallacy  unless rape victims = noob

otherwise you see:
noob = non teamplayer [maybe or maybe not raper]
noob = getting admins to kill rapers for you
noob = no fun [agreed]

fun = teamplayers raping the rapists until they go away = pwnage
=>
teamwork = expert level
Experts = skill or be pwned

etc etc etc


nice logic flow though just missing that one definition

Spark wrote:

I agree with the thread starter. What are you meant to do if they don't have other flags, sit around and pull grass?

Sadie_Sadisti wrote:

"logical fallacy", lol, that quoted statement is in very general form which should be the norm for teh mass, and your add ons are just your personal (miss)conceptions. I like generalised form

noob = someone that misses the game, regardless to the amount of kills he does or the size of squad he is in.


BF2 is ultimate noob game, the hit boxes are created in the size that  you just install it and you get to kill, and everything else is almost irrelevant. its a game made to be sold and "enjoyed" from the very first minute your online. its very disappointing to see how slow the ethic behavior is catching up even though this is not new game. I think its all Al Gore's and his "high speed internet in every home" paradigm's fault. people were just not ready.