Maxwelbr
Member
+21|6485
yO,

OK, SO LATELY i notice that infantry battles are not actually the good ol' heated firefights that they are in other games.  its kinda sad, really, that now, infantry battles have come down to one on one encounters that are actually competitions of who can use the key-sroke "jump, prone, jump, prone, jump" and such and such. 

like, i'm usually a sniper and say that its one of those sad times that i just missed his head and got him in the shoulder.  once i look back into my scope, hes jumping around, flying into the air, going prone in mid-jump, pullin out med-kits and crap like that.  hes flopping around like a fish, probably destroying his space bar.

really, in infantry battles, killing a guy is really just implying: "omg, oWn3d! i can use my space bar faster than u can n0ob!! lolz, go practice hitting ur space bar and prone key very fast so u can actually get some ki11z! lolz!"

a few games ago, i said something like that b4 the game started.  its was like "isn't it sad that infantry battles are now just competitions to see who can hit the space bar faster.....".  one guy was like "well, in rl, if u started getting shot at, would u stand there and take it, or jump away?".  to this i said:

"well, yes, i would want to "jump" away.  but i would be hopping around like a derranged rabbit, and diving to the ground and then jumping some more like a flopping fish!"

guy: "i think infantry battles are just fine, get used to the bunny hopping.  its a good tactic."

me: "sure, its a fine tactic.  but its stupid and unrealistic.  now infatry battles are 1vs1 encounters with both ppl flopping around all over the place.  i don't think infantry battles should be difined by who can hop the fastest and master the "jump, prone, jump" key-stroke.  the soldiers in iraq don't get shot and then instantly hop around 20 times then go prone in midair and contine hopping. infantry battles should be difined by using tactics, teamwork, strategy, thinking and skill and even more teamwork! not by who can hop the fastest."

like come on, i think bf2 is horrible when it comes to infantry and that some major modifications should be done to the hopping thing.  y should there be hopping in bf2 anyway??

AGREE/DISAGREE???? if agree +1 me if disagree......go screw urself. 

now discuss.... i want to hear some opinions.......
Sambuccashake
Member
+126|6581|Sweden
IIRC the "pronespamming" aspect of the game is gone as of 1.4.

And if your victim survives the first shot and is jumping/proning all over the place, shoot him in mid-air.  ;oP
Slickfish
Member
+24|6594
I do jump if im near cover, to get behind the cover. but I hate it when people start bouncing around trying to get time to heal etc.
But it is a tactic to get kills, and on most servers nothings said about it, I've found the best way to deal with its just hold fire down with any of the assult rifles the deviation can get them for you.
Maxwelbr
Member
+21|6485

Sambuccashake wrote:

IIRC the "pronespamming" aspect of the game is gone as of 1.4.

And if your victim survives the first shot and is jumping/proning all over the place, shoot him in mid-air.  ;oP
really, its gone as of 1.4??? WOW!!!! omfg!!! I'M SOOOO EXCITED FOR THAT.  HOLY CRAP!!! OMFG!!! MAN, THIS IS GONNE BE AWESOME!!! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT EA FUCKED UP IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS FIX!!! WOW, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED 4 MONTHS AGO!!! WOW, THEY PROBABLY CAUSED MORE BUGS IN 1.4 THAN THEY FIXED. 

as u can tell, i really am spektical as to whether or not this is true.  ea has a tendecny to screw up the patches (1.1, 1.2, 1.21 1.3) are good examples.  o well.....
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6633|USA
When I played (haven't in some time since cartillary) I had no problem with shooting hoppers. Like Sam above said. As they jump you tend to know where thier head will be. Just do what I did. Take a break have a smoke and have at it again.

After quitting for a while due to car-tillary and disconnect issues I returned to the battlefield a few weeks ago. Spec-ops class and was doing really well. About 14 kills 2 deaths when "problem with connection" then a DC.

My point being, jumping/proning is the least of this games problems. DC's, retarded vehicle drops, butt-humping on the runways, intentional tk on runways, etc etc etc etc etc etc........

Was a great game at 1.0. Downhill since. EA has thus burned my bridge to BF2142. Quake Wars FTW.

-Mason-
elmo1337
Banned
+186|6530|The real world
Oh sorry I will run like a normal person now, straight forward to make it easier for you, im so sorry
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|6676|Antarctica
First of all, learn to shoot.  If you can't hit a moving target after 1.2 nerfed infantry then you need serious help.  Secondly, whats wrong with evading enemy fire?  Do you think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me?  Maybe you aren't fast enough to press 3 keys at once instead of lay on a hill 90m away and snipe.  This topic is an exelent example of why whiners have destroyed BF2's infantry.  "OMG STOP JUMPING NoOB!1!!!!"  "WAAAAH EA I CANT HIT THE BUNNY HOPPER NERF NERF NERF!1!!!11!!!111!!111!!1"  "INFANRY IS TOO HARD MAKE IT EASIER!!!!!!"
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6678|67.222.138.85

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

First of all, learn to shoot.  If you can't hit a moving target after 1.2 nerfed infantry then you need serious help.  Secondly, whats wrong with evading enemy fire?  Do you think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me?  Maybe you aren't fast enough to press 3 keys at once instead of lay on a hill 90m away and snipe.  This topic is an exelent example of why whiners have destroyed BF2's infantry.  "OMG STOP JUMPING NoOB!1!!!!"  "WAAAAH EA I CANT HIT THE BUNNY HOPPER NERF NERF NERF!1!!!11!!!111!!111!!1"  "INFANRY IS TOO HARD MAKE IT EASIER!!!!!!"
QFT

I only hop when I start getting shot and and I don't know where the hell it's coming from, (not too often) or getting away from armor. Other than that, it's easier to go prone (admittedley mostly jump and go prone) and get an accurate bead on the enemy. But come one, you can't dolphin dive anymore so you still have a huge hitbox and you can't fire in the air anymore so why whine? If you can't shoot someone with a sniper rifle, and then immediately tag them again because they startd hopping in teh 1.8 seconds it took to put a round in teh chamber, the hopper isn't the problem.

On another note, could I use that baseraper userbar of yours VeNg3nCe^?
eusgen
Nugget
+402|6763|Jupiter
y0 |-|0m!3
KnowMeByTrailOfDead
Jackass of all Trades
+62|6652|Dayton, Ohio
if the hopping pisses you off, pull out the old GL and blow them to hell.  It dosen't care if the are diving in a hole or doing jumping jacks.  Drop a nade at thier feet and help them fly.
Richard2000
Banned
+39|6516|England
bunny hopping is just for gays and wankers

Last edited by Richard2000 (2006-07-17 10:03:10)

Maxwelbr
Member
+21|6485
i think u all misunderstood me.  i'm not saying that "hoppers are pussies" and such. hell, i even hop around! i'm just thinking that infantry battles should be about teamwork and tactics and stuff, now based on the spacebar.  sorry for the misunderstanding....

and elmo1337, stop being a complete cunt.  i don't need that sarcasm and shit./  go fuck ur sister or give stop CONSTRUCTIVE input, positive or negative.  but don't be a sarcastic fag and offer no help to the thread......cunt.
shice
Member
+9|6486|every1 h8's Germany

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

First of all, learn to shoot.  If you can't hit a moving target after 1.2 nerfed infantry then you need serious help.  Secondly, whats wrong with evading enemy fire?  Do you think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me?  Maybe you aren't fast enough to press 3 keys at once instead of lay on a hill 90m away and snipe.  This topic is an exelent example of why whiners have destroyed BF2's infantry.  "OMG STOP JUMPING NoOB!1!!!!"  "WAAAAH EA I CANT HIT THE BUNNY HOPPER NERF NERF NERF!1!!!11!!!111!!111!!1"  "INFANRY IS TOO HARD MAKE IT EASIER!!!!!!"
agreed

i use the bunnyhop to evade enemy fire when i survived some1 in the middle of the street or sumthin
Zeon.
l33t sp33k Specialist
+159|6528|Behind j00OMFG HAX, Bristol UK
Lol jumping is there to jump with... In RL (Remember its just a game anyway) you would jump out the way behind a wall or whatever... You can't do that in game so you bunnyhop instead.
gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|6693|England
Bunny hopping is for more of the skilled players all high ranks knos how to bunny hop and can evade most attacks. I come across new players of BF2 or lower ranks than me and they run straight at me no dodging bullets and i mow them down its too easy. Now when i come across a bunny hopper thats when things begin to get fun theres actually some action in the 1 on 1 with the other bunny. Yes im for bunny hopping you will understand why when you play BF2 like all of us do. I get called it and i dont even realise that im bunny hopping its just so natural for me to press the keys that i press.

And as for them nerfing infantry yet again we will find a way to get around it again we always do they tried nerfing infantry before didnt work. They will try and do it again but  there are always ways new tactics etc.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6678|67.222.138.85

Richard2000 wrote:

bunny hopping is just for gays and wankers
Because you can't get an inf. k/d over 1?
PspRpg-7
-
+961|6669

Want real? Play Americas Army. But that's too real for me. Bunny hopping is apart of BF2, until they nerf it so bad that you're no longer allowed to jump at all.

Last edited by PspRpg-7 (2006-07-17 10:16:51)

Battlefield2Player
Ak-101 Addict
+98|6503

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

First of all, learn to shoot.  If you can't hit a moving target after 1.2 nerfed infantry then you need serious help.  Secondly, whats wrong with evading enemy fire?  Do you think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me?  Maybe you aren't fast enough to press 3 keys at once instead of lay on a hill 90m away and snipe.  This topic is an exelent example of why whiners have destroyed BF2's infantry.  "OMG STOP JUMPING NoOB!1!!!!"  "WAAAAH EA I CANT HIT THE BUNNY HOPPER NERF NERF NERF!1!!!11!!!111!!111!!1"  "INFANRY IS TOO HARD MAKE IT EASIER!!!!!!"
Agreed.

They've already nerfed infantry combat enough.  They removed the ability to "dolphin dive" and shoot while jumping, decreased the detonation radius for grenade launcher explosions and added that "minimum time before arming" for the grenade launcher projectiles.  And to top all that off, they added that "delay" you experience when standing from prone.  Hell, why not just remove the infantry completely?

As I mentioned previously, barely anything in BF2 is realistic.  In real life, you cannot repair a tank with a wrench.  You cannot fix your artillery with a supply crate.  And have YOU ever seen a real Marine "re-spawn" on the battlefield once he is blown away?

If you want realism, go play America's Army (as you can see in my userbar, I do too sometimes).

Last edited by Battlefield2Player (2006-07-17 11:22:15)

BolvisOculus
Spagett!
+167|6590|Manitowoc, WI
im going to make an observation here:
all the snipers and armor whores hate bunny hoppers, and all the ground pounders bunny hop or jump-prone or some method to avoid fire. i personally find nothing wrong with it (as you can see i groundpound more than vehichle whore)
E1_ned
Member
+8|6465|netherlands
totally agree with Maxwelbr

hopping in my opinion is the lowest... i hate firring a complete mag into a rabbit and often leave the server if it is common practice.
the game is fantastic if played with others who are playing with tactics and stuff... i think these guys/girls are totally screwing up the game play for a lot of others and they are only hopping to boost their points. it's a damn shame a fix is needed for these @#$@$#@@! 

admins if you can........ kick em


GO SETUP A RABBIT SERVER !!!! AND STOP BOTHERING THE REST!!!!
kn0ckahh
Member
+98|6709|netherlands, sweet lake city
im a rabbit....... i like to jump ..... but I dont use unlocks ... why do i hop ... because its the only way to dodge those PKM and mg36C and the sniper guns.... I find snipers most anoying because theyre probaby just making some "look how good IIII am" snipermovie...    I mean most sniper are lame and useless....
off course there's exepoins for some of the better snipers but most of them suck.... how to dodge a sniper ... hop like a bunny the whole time thats why I hop ....
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6603|949

hop hop hop.  Spacebar, prone, crouch, repeat.  Don't like it, too bad.  Go play a different game.  In real life, you don't respawn in 15 seconds.
NuclearBlasted
Member
+8|6664

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

First of all, learn to shoot.  If you can't hit a moving target after 1.2 nerfed infantry then you need serious help.  Secondly, whats wrong with evading enemy fire?  Do you think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me?  Maybe you aren't fast enough to press 3 keys at once instead of lay on a hill 90m away and snipe.  This topic is an exelent example of why whiners have destroyed BF2's infantry.  "OMG STOP JUMPING NoOB!1!!!!"  "WAAAAH EA I CANT HIT THE BUNNY HOPPER NERF NERF NERF!1!!!11!!!111!!111!!1"  "INFANRY IS TOO HARD MAKE IT EASIER!!!!!!"
Yup.  If you don't wanna pronespam with 'em, just figure out the best way to get them (noob tubing works, so do shotguns).
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6539

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

First of all, learn to shoot.  If you can't hit a moving target after 1.2 nerfed infantry then you need serious help.  Secondly, whats wrong with evading enemy fire?  Do you think I'm gonna sit there and let you kill me?  Maybe you aren't fast enough to press 3 keys at once instead of lay on a hill 90m away and snipe.  This topic is an exelent example of why whiners have destroyed BF2's infantry.  "OMG STOP JUMPING NoOB!1!!!!"  "WAAAAH EA I CANT HIT THE BUNNY HOPPER NERF NERF NERF!1!!!11!!!111!!111!!1"  "INFANRY IS TOO HARD MAKE IT EASIER!!!!!!"
All said, put the focus on your aim and you won't have any problems to hit even the wrost prone spammer. Watch the nametage flopping around and you always know where the hitbox is.

Unfortunately most players weren't able to do this, let's face the result in 1.4 (The Grandpa Movement Patch)
E1_ned
Member
+8|6465|netherlands

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

hop hop hop.  Spacebar, prone, crouch, repeat.  Don't like it, too bad.  Go play a different game.  In real life, you don't respawn in 15 seconds.
why play another game????? bf is a great game.... I'm just saying: i really don't like the hopping...

BTW the 15 sec remark.... really lame. maybe if you'd like i can explain u the difference between real life and a game.

however i did read some replies that made sense.. about the apc's and snipers
I'm always playing in a squad.... we never hop and get reasonable points.... just take different kits and kill 'em all ( or try )

Board footer

Privacy Policy - © 2024 Jeff Minard