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EA alone is good. DICE is a bunch of fuckers that cant seem to make one fucking good idea work worth SHIT!!!

I love stryyker, just because whatever he says is so right...!

tvmissileman is right. There's really nothing wrong with EA games, they just end up helping great games be better because they can give the actual developers more money. The only thing is Dice is too busy adding stuff when they should be fixing stuff. It's stupid too because there isn't that much to fix, but they just won't do it.

stryyker wrote:

tvmissleman wrote:

EA alone is good. DICE is a bunch of fuckers that cant seem to make one fucking good idea work worth SHIT!!!

and yet you still play the game. If they are such fuckers, then uninstall BF2 and go play another game, ok thanks

Do you give up on something that you know has so much potential as soon as something goes wrong with it?

Hey, they can make patches without screwing them up, but they just don't have enough time...

1.12 wasn't to bad.

This is how I see it:

DICE Sweden made BF2 and made it good, but was rushed by EA to release.  Therefore DICE Sweden = good and EA = bad.  Then EA puts the ROE and BFMP in place (military police in a game, yeah...) which does nothing but fuel the whiner's flame for revenge against good players.  Therefore EA = bad.  Now DICE Canada has taken over patch making and is doing a horrible job at it........ but they did make Special Forces which is great even with the bugs.  So DICE Canada = bad patching.  Thankfully DICE Sweden is making 2142 and not Canada, or I doubt they could even get it to run without CTD'ing.

The reason bf2 is in the state it is in now is probably due to pressure on DICE from the moneygrabbers at EA. The original dice team in sweden who created the bf2 vanilla are now busy working on this futuristic moneymaker 2142 while the canadian team have taken over bf2. The canadian team have developed the lower quality expansion and booster packs and not to mention the dreadful patches. Whatever about getting the canadians to produce the booster packs and expansion packs, thats just a way to make more money but would it not make more sense to get the original creators of the game to develop the patches? Surely no one is in a better position to fix the game than its original creators. They know how their own code works and how the game was designed. How can they expect a new team to just take over and have the same indepth knowledge as the original team. The quality of the patches released clearly demonstrates the new teams lack of knowledge and talent. Simple solution is to put 2142 on hold for the moment and get the original team to develop one more final patch. Surely they can work out why the servers are crashing, friendlys are showing as enemies, the appliacton crashes to desktop etc etc etc. There is not that much wrong with the game considering how much is in it. Im assuming DICE would like a reputation for developing quality games and EA would like a reputation for releasing quality games. Bring back the original team and this will become a reality. The new team have had there chance to prove themselves and have failed by fucking up the simple things like keeping servers running without crashes. EA should back off and let the real talent at DICE finish what they started!

topthrill05 wrote:

1.12 wasn't to bad.

If 1.12 had the friendly fire option for mines and 'mores and 1.3's A-A, it would be the perfect patch.

Linus wrote:

you know you got problems..

1 year after release, too...

EA, DICE.... wow what a team.

that is the most retarded post iv ever seen.

*franticly clicks the -1 button in hope of a miracle*

I have to disagree with "EA is good" EA is SHIT theyre WORSE than DICE. Every other EA game Ive played has been CRAP and they make them worse than bf2 with brutally overpowered stuff and horribly underpowered stuff. EA cant make games, they should go shut themselves down.

I used to work in an office witha  game publishing company.  In the kitchen area was a billboard.  The most prominant sign was on saying "SHIP NOW; WE CAN PATCH!"   There is a whole lot of pressure on the programmers to get their product on the shelves so it can start raking in cash.  Until the product hits the shelves, it is nothing but a money drain.

The problem that often happens is that if they are not bringing in all the money they need, they often start letting programmers go; especially after the game hits market.  So, you may have had 50 programmers make the game, there may only be 15 or 20 to keep the support going.  And that is only when they are not working on the NEXT game they are producing.

Yes, DICE keeps messing up and leaving glitches and other errors in the game.  But you are not paying a montly fee or anything.  They already have your money.  I actually have to give kudos to DICE for even trying so much.