unnamednewbie13
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a guy was talking up cargo container homes today. he thinks it's about as easy as setting up a level foundation, running the plumbing, wiring, insulation, hvac, flooring, walls, ceiling, doing the lighting, cutting windows, doors, opening up more area by attaching more cargo containers. didn't consider additional framing or abatement of industrial treatments.

he's of the impression that it's really cheap and he'll just DIY. having done other projects with him (non-biz), it would be a disaster in the making. he has little patience for finesse, and even less if it's hot outside. i've literally sat in a car for a couple hours reading while a fencing project was kicking him in the butt and he was trying to figure out what to do. no remorse. i like the guy, but i'm not going to spend idle time leaning on a shovel on immediate standby while the ground bakes my feet through the soles of my shoes for the sake of some indecisive weekend project.

i also don't feel bad disabusing him of that enthusiasm. a stacked cargo container home project would probably kill him.

for something of mine, i think i'd stick with normal building materials where i can construct a place in the shape i want. unless i feel the need to live in a faraday cage out of fallout 4.

i am extremely open to the idea of moving the rest of my stuff that should be in storage into a cargo container, though. have fun chainsawing into that!

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-07-18 17:44:04)

SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Americans are going to start living in shipping containers and then wonder how we ended up here.
https://images.prismic.io/whyzz/36f57c87-d514-48f2-89ea-40fe9ae52995_favela.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat
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pirana6
Go Cougs!
+698|6807|Washington St.
I was trying to run cat6 cable through my walls a while back and having a fucking pain. Im trying to add a few more routers to corners of the house and the ol lady wants poe security cameras (dont get me started, we live in suburban boringville USA, we are fucking fine).
An electrician friend said to stop making life harder on myself and just run it outside the house. So the past few days Ive been cutting and adding pvc conduit to the outside and its coming together, despite the eyesore of tubes on my house. Almost done but the damn foundation goes so far up on my daylight basement that getting a hole in the side is a fuckin pain.
uziq
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i was under the impression that modern wifi standards/mesh networks are pretty much faster than cabled ethernet? unless you have fancy routers/network switches that go way beyond the normal home PC mobo standard, of course.

(i know next to nothiing about networking so that may be way off).

back when i was adamant about gaming (1337 pr0) on ethernet connections, there were devices to turn your home power sockets into a long ethernet daisychain. seemed to work okay - not sure about things like noise or packet loss.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+698|6807|Washington St.
I believe at this point if you have wifi9 or whatever version theyre on and a solid mesh system, you should be golden. Those systems can be pricey and I have a 3 older wifi routers I use as access points instead of routers. Lastly in order to take advantage of your wifi9 system and the super speeds, you need newer devices that can use it and my old as fuck TV and phone most assuredly do not.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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The camera/flood light system we bought for my girlfriend's place uses solar panels and wifi. I am skeptical of solar powered anything but I think they have gotten a ton more reliable since the early 200Xs. All of the other solar panels stuff she has bought actually works really well.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+698|6807|Washington St.
Solar has been making absolute ridiculous strides in the past 10 years. The US has decided that gas an oil companies decide youll continue paying them rather than taking advantage of new better tech
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Yeah, I am convinced of the tech now.

Also, I wiped out the small hornet nest. I used raid anti-wasp spray and shoot a stream directly at the queen.
https://live.staticflickr.com/7461/15899456307_e3679978df_w.jpg
Then I had to use a garbage picker to actually pull the thing off the roof. Poking it with a broom doesn't work. Those things are glued tight.
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unnamednewbie13
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keep the time of day and the size of your neighbors' beer bellies in consideration when getting involved in neighborly disputes.

burbs are crazy.

if you stop posting, i'm going to figure you've been kidnapped by ice and sent to alligator alcatraz.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,061|7139|Little Bentcock
We bought a house at the end of last year. Heritage listed, quarter acre block. We wanted a nice backyard for the kids. But I worry constantly about the money needed to maintain the house.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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Congratulations.

I wouldn't sweat cosmetic stuff if you have kids coming.
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uziq
Member
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i would have loved a nice bit of regency england for the same reason – even a small 1/2-bedroom pied-à-terre in bath or cheltenham or somewhere close to my home area like that, not necessarily a family home. but owning heritage or anything old and well-appointed does seem like a long-term commitment to burn money.

https://content.knightfrank.com/property/bth180309/images/65a5ef45-ae6b-490d-8c5a-e3ceb2aadca6-0.jpg?cio=true&w=1200

the australian housing market seems as insane as anywhere else in the anglophone world, but the older architecture that i have seen does look nice. much better than exurban sprawl, anyway.

Last edited by uziq (2025-07-24 20:54:57)

Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,061|7139|Little Bentcock
I believe Sydney is one of the most expensive places to buy on the planet currently.
uziq
Member
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yeah iirc i saw some proper old clapboard houses in sydney selling for millions.

it's the same in london, though. victorian terraced housing that was built for working-class proles – slums in their day, with toilets at the end of the garden, backed onto filthy alleyways, etc. – is now regularly selling for £1 million+. crazy situation.

same thing in tokyo with land. anywhere in the inner -kus of the city, as in the 'city' proper and not the vast greater metropolitan area, and you're paying millions of USD just for the land.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,061|7139|Little Bentcock
https://www.property.com.au/nsw/canley- … id-521758/

We did a safety visit on this house end last year while it was on sale. Not a great suburb, not close to any amenities. Place was literally falling apart.

Went for just over 1.1million AUD. Only thing going for it was that its an ok sized corner block.
unnamednewbie13
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pretty sure i saw a house on the north slope of alaska for 700 grand. low acreage. mud. barely a shack.

can't even escape it in the ass-end of nowhere.

side note: the boomers who bought homes in the five figure range decades ago should probably keep their mouths shut about wanting their children to produce heirs. probably not the right time for people to be thinking of that while living in an old RV or a very studio apartment.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I am a gentrifier.
https://media.tenor.com/tQ9DY7IQAkcAAAAM/cream-creamofthecrop.gif
My girlfriend's house is nearly totally setup. We have gotten to know our neighbors and spoke to an older retired white guy in the neighborhood.Really nice guy. He has been giving me tips on how to take care of the property and shit like that.
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Really helpful and I told him how much I appreciate learning how to do all this "man of house" stuff from him "so don't hesitate if you have any advice."
https://y.yarn.co/d6fdc2cb-bfaa-4620-9415-1ef07435c025_text.gif
Anyway, he mentioned "people in the area can't afford those [houses built in our mini development.]" So that makes us gentrifiers. We took our university education and government salaries and bought a new build in a struggling area. We did it.
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RTHKI wrote:

Isn't it your girlfriend's house and not yours?
It was promised to me three thousand years ago.
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But in all seriousness since Trump helped cut my summer work hours I had time to spend building and preparing the new home. Dozens of pieces of furniture built, things drilled in, walls painted, etc.

I have appreciated the experience for what it is worth.
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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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I am a cave man now
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/04/6490667.jpg?w=1000
The other houses in the development haven't been sold yet. So they are sitting empty and weeds are starting to grow in the pile of rocks near the driveways.
https://images.thdstatic.com/productImages/2387334e-ccd0-4e9a-99d3-29cc33ab8569/svn/southwest-boulder-stone-bagged-landscape-rocks-02-0067-e1_600.jpg
I made sure my girlfriend's "pile of rocks" don't have any weeds. Even though no one lives in the other units I still judge them for not deweeding their pile of rocks like my perfectly maintained pile of rocks.
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SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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"The vast nothingness of northwest and south Jersey never fails to amaze me, despite having the highest population density"
https://preview.redd.it/t639o8kjcqqf1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=04b67b91d0564aac47f2c15dfc10921e524b9104
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Fuck the forest. We can build cities right on that land.

We are cucked. The wealthy cucked us into depression and not reproducing. They had us making fun of "Chinese Ghost Cities."
https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/wadeshepard/files/2016/04/Ordos-Kangbashi-empty-apartments-1200x900.jpg?height=533&width=711&fit=bounds
But people eventually moved into those things meanwhile we have young adults living in attics and basements dating their AI girlfriends.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
unnamednewbie13
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if you've got an attic or basement to yourself that's still better than a lot of americans got it. the goalposts have greatly shifted.

people living in their tiny childhood bedrooms at 30, or sharing a single toilet studio with a dozen other people. in comparison, the van down by the river doesn't sound all that bad. if you can find a stretch of urban waterway that doesn't smell like human waste, great.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-09-22 14:15:02)

uziq
Member
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your average chinese family have far more life savings and higher rates of home ownership.

the 'ghost cities' were definitely a phenomenon of a real estate/construction bubble propped up by shady in-dealing and book-keeping practices; but it's also the case that the chinese middle-class have moved from land-shackled peasants to urbanites in nice new apartment blocks at a very high rate. some of those apartments are shoddily constructed, but others are genuinely very nice. a tier 1 city in china is a very good place to live on the global sliding scale.

the american dream is crumbling whereas the average chinese worker bee has quite a lot of material improvement/advancement to look forward to. not to mention passing on decent nest eggs for their (often times single) child. it's hard to overstate the effect that living in a growing economy has on your outlook. the difference in energy and dynamism between the UK/europe and a place like korea (not so much japan, but that's a case study in a category of one) was almost immediately tangible, when i was living there.

in general i think the western obsession with property ownership, coupled with the weird pseudo-tudor, volkisch, queen anne and twitching curtains, home-is-my-castle suburban model, has done great harm. only the hipsters were single-handedly trying to revive neglected high-density urban spaces or town centres. the slow and inexorable drift towards exurban sprawl and backwoods full of malls and drive thrus is horrible. the primacy of the car and 'individual freedom' over all else has done as much to create atomised societies as TV dinners, social media, or any of the other boogie men.

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unnamednewbie13
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most of the time i "save" in vehicles is because everything is sprawled across multiple towns and cities. and then i lose that time in traffic.

all so ford could sell more personal vehicles.

some supermarkets are closing stores around washington. quite abruptly. like a shotgun blast in the face to communities built walkably around their super/hypermarket. some of these places were packed to the back of their embarrassingly oversized parking lots, every single day. you can't convince me a rack of belts going missing now and then was killing profit margins.

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