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Your 5 year old PC would be fine for playing red dead again. Go fish.


Computer game requirements have drastically slowed down. The MBAs realized that complex graphics are expensive to produce and also limit possible players. Got to love it.

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Oh I remember those boxes. Those were great at least in our memories. We would run into the same problem as the DVD cases of consoles though.

I did have a dope Doom 2 one and also the Half Life one with the pull out cover.

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By the way Half Life...I feel that franchise made a huge fumble by releasing their next installment on a VR device. No one played it.

some of my old collector's boxes are missing. the thieves really marie kondo'd that storage. game boxes still around in shoeboxes and plastic bins aren't exactly sparking joy, i think. most probably won't even work on windows 10.

I still have BF2 installed and play occasionally with the 64-bot mod for nostalgia purposes.
Actually feels pretty good.

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Dilbert_X wrote:

I still have BF2 installed and play occasionally with the 64-bot mod for nostalgia purposes.
Actually feels pretty good.

RTHKI and I have something few people have. BF2 on Steam

Hello. I got caught up in the marketing materials for Battlefield 6 and suddenly realised it's just ticked over 20 years since I signed up here. That's pretty wild.

Edit: Oh, almost, apparently I'm a month or two early.

Hope you're all doing well.

Chur. Good to see some stalwarts are still keeping in touch. Might stop by a bit more frequently than once or twice every half-decade or so; say howdy, contemplate middle age, etcetera.

I had a bit of fun with the beta, particularly when I took a breath and slowed the fuck down a bit, stopped sprinting everywhere, and picked spawn points a bit more thoughtfully. Feels like you're fighting against the game and the map design to play that way though.

I'm sure there's more to it then what was on display but you're right, it didn't seem particularly geared towards expansive gameplay and kind of reminded me just how many innovations and gameplay options have been stripped out of the series. Commander mode and abilities tied to physical assets? Titans? Levolution? Behemoths? Meanwhile the factions, the weapons, the classes, the vehicles - it all seems pretty homogenised.

Probably just means I'm old and am no longer the target audience.

I still had fun, I'll probably pick it up sometime after release, or maybe I'll get caught up in the marketing excitement and join the launch rush.

Ty wrote:

Probably just means I'm old and am no longer the target audience.

Yup! We're auld.

uziq wrote:

movement/twitch fps is kind of funny, considering how shitty the movement and twitch aspects of these games are in the grand scheme of things. it's a long, long way from quake or any sort of arena shooter. just meme parkour and sliding copy-and-pasted from every other AAA filler game.

Yeah when I wrote that I was more referencing apex/warzone

i don't know why even a medium-sized studio on a modest budget just doesn't recreate a 'classic' FPS vibe. a game that goes back to 2000s principles and doesn't just rollover by default on a bunch of current-gen features and standards.

regenerating lifebar is shit. health packs, as in vCod/Cod2 or early BF games, are far better. ditto for picking up weapons from the floor that may have ammo, or throwing down a support ammo pack. these are fun dynamics in a game. when did we decide the whole 'run and parkour around a corner and regen' thing was the default way to do FPS?

fixed teams and classes. by god that was so much better. allies and axis. terrorist and CT. MEC, USMC, PLA, whatever. you have to learn how to use the weapon you've got and the utilise the class's strengths and weaknesses. that shit is fun! switch classes as and when the situation requires it! to suit your squad or team balance! instead everyone is lost grinding unlocks or camo skins for their flavor-of-the-month meta-dominating assault rifle, complaining about TTK/TTD because the firefights are so essentially identical. boooooooring.

even a simple source mod game like day of defeat has so much more subtlety and skill curve than the latest AAA gajillion-dollar production cost game.

Last edited by uziq (2025-08-20 20:37:26)

EA has said they're working towards being able to churn out a Battlefield game every year. I'm sure that will mean only excellent things for quality, support, and game longevity.

^if i get a new upper-mid pc before trump makes it cost 6 grand, i still might give it a shot on sale and risk the disappointment. post-release user footage will be the deciding factor.

and ya that regen is really irksome. imagine that in old bf2 while camping an uncappable enemy base, lmao. two man team could stick with support and sniper.

Ty wrote:

EA has said they're working towards being able to churn out a Battlefield game every year. I'm sure that will mean only excellent things for quality, support, and game longevity.

lol, i only ever buy a sports game like once every 10 years. i don't know anyone who collected all the mlb 'xy the show.

Dilbert_X wrote:

These companies don't give a fuck about the game or the gamers, if it were legal and they could make more money they'd be selling subscription dopamine pumps so teenagers could lie in a coma as they drain their parent's credit cards.

Maybe there's a market for enthusiasts getting hold of a slightly older engine and creating a community game or something.
Didn't that already happen?

uziq wrote:

i don't know why even a medium-sized studio on a modest budget just doesn't recreate a 'classic' FPS vibe. a game that goes back to 2000s principles and doesn't just rollover by default on a bunch of current-gen features and standards.

there are attempts to recreate older vibes but iirc they tend to bomb. some people on my friends list have tried a few but it doesn't last long. some are f2p models, and with that, f2p stuff.

is the older playerbase even there or available? all of my old arena-game pc group i'm still in contact with have moved on to other genres or hobbies. if bf6 was a clone of our bf2 in gameplay mechanics and user servers, and i could be pulled off of my other games long enough, i might play to e7 or something even with others to play it with.

q3 arena pretty dead on steam right now. 5 figures playing 4 years ago which was amazing to see, but like 20 now, and not much more at peak.

will consoles have to lead the way? what's going on with gyro controls these days? i remember seeing videos where flick shots were still awkward but looked like an improvement over older stick movement.

"stop killing games" movement sounds like it could help if there's more of a legal imperative for game companies to enable end-user controlled servers as an option. still, i'd probably have to get over the not-fun modernities.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2025-08-21 12:03:07)

it's nice hearing that an aaa title is possibly well optimized.

but my pc was built at the dawn of the obama administration. card's two generations above a 970 (had a 970 or 980 previously, i think), but everything else is like a 90s honda civic now. reliable, held together with prayers and dreams, and bandaged with more ram than it has any right to, an ssd, and the bottlenecked gpu. my experience with games that look like that is lots of cranking down on detail. the spectacle is one of the perks.

Things I will have to get used to being in a red state: cowboys.

I went to the main square of the town and there was a guy just hanging out in front of the places dressed like one.