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LMAO Express Readers

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 … 1653043361

PM’s father secures french citizenship.

you’ve got to love the fact that the elite ruling class who whip up all the xenophobia in the proles speak 2-3 languages themselves, own properties in the south of france, have turkish and french and german ancestry on their immediate family tree, etc. 

all of the most vociferous campaigners and snake-oil salesmen for the business of brexit have quietly made business arrangements to shift their offices and tax registrations to ireland, etc. or in this case have literally tried to secure citizenship in EU countries. 

an amazing swindle.

there were no potential positives. your nativist xenophobic vision of the world has no constructive solutions for the future.

- Getting rid of coons

- Taking back control

- GBP350,000,000 a week for the NHS

Thats three easy wins right there.

Here the country has gone Labor, seems like a nice idea but they have no actual ideas and they're guaranteed to fuck up the implementation.

As usual I took the how to vote card from the prettiest girl and this year it happened to be Green, although I did put purple-hair girl first because she seems nice.

I'm guessing you've never voted in Australia

The preferential voting system is complex, all sorts of back room deals are done, and instead of thinking for yourself its easier to just follow the card of your preferred candidate to maximise their chances and not accidentally vote in some jerk..



Its still better than a 1.5 party state.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2022-05-22 04:28:57)

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I understand preferential voting. It makes more sense to see it like that, just been up all night. I doubt a lot of people put too much effort into figuring out an optimal listing themselves. Probably lots that just vote based on the best looking photographs or least foreign sounding names.

there's inter-party preferential deals.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n … inal-seats

most people vote on party lines in aus, lots of independent (all women) wiped out our conservative party in stronghold seats.

form dept PM and amber heard nemisis barnaby is real mad, apparently its all the voters who are wrong for voting them out, cos they happen to be 3 gays, an aboriginal and an asian.

I have a dream that one day our leaders set aside their alcohol and instead smoke a bit of weed.

Dilbert_X wrote:

The problem isn't alcohol its that they're turds.

Oligarch-Warlord Tony Blair wasn't a big drinker and look at all the people he killed.

these people were drinking every week, sometimes multiple times, not 'leaving the office' until 3-4am on a regular basis.

this office being the official residence of the leader of one of the world's oldest democracies, mind you, not a corporate unit near slough with a well-stocked pantry.

the prime minister would walk through the 'office' (which are of course also his private quarters), weaving past roomfuls of drunken revellers on a weekly basis.  he'd stop to drink a toast to someone, neck a glass, and carry on his way (likely to drink in his private inner sanctum, as well as god knows what else, probably). no moral sense that having your staff pissed up on a weekly basis in their place of work is perhaps unprofessional or unwise. that workplace culture would be considered rotten even in non-lockdown circumstances.

the drinking culture was systemic and problematic. fights broke out in downing street twice between drunken revellers. tell me alcohol, a drug which reduces inhibitions and makes people quick-tempered, isn't part of the problem when you have physical and verbal altercations in the very seat of government? not a good look.

the whole drinking culture of british politics, including members' bars in the houses of parliament, pissed-up old boys with red faces braying and hooraying in the chamber of the commons on an afternoon session, etc, is a bad victorian hangover. a modern democracy should not be ran like a gentleman's club between a bunch of entitled public school nitwits. and booze, as in frat cultures and 'greek life' societies in upper-middle class american college->corporate->government life, is a huge influencing factor and social rite. it's no accident that america has a heavy-drinking date-rapist on the supreme court. people from elite/ruling class backgrounds are socialized to think that getting smashed on the regular, even at work and in their professional capacity, is a-okay.

Last edited by uziq (2022-05-26 03:36:51)

lol, it's amazing. i tell you that studying humanities isn't what corrupts their behaviour, it's the fact that they are born and socialised as ruling-class entitled nitwits -- and you maintain to the end of time that one's undergraduate reading is the cause of their entire adult personality and conduct.

then when i say 'look at their clearly problematic and unprofessional abuse of alcohol in the workplace, and the resulting poor behaviour which results from it', you say ... no, no, it's because they are born and socialised as ruling-class entitled nitwits, you see.



i wonder what was a more proximate cause of the culture of rule-breaking and debauchery at no. 10:

- regular and socially encouraged consumption of a drug on the premises which is directly tied to lowered inhibitions, poorer self-control and decision-making, and increased recklessness; or
- reading gibbon's 'the history of the decline and fall of the roman empire' 22 years prior at an oxford college.

Sunak doesn't even drink, look at his behaviour.

sunak was only fined and implicated once. he lives next door, not in the party residence. and that residence was overwhelmingly categorized by a revelling atmosphere. they were smuggling in alcohol in briefcases and safes for months on end, ffs. literally conniving and conspiring to have boozy parties. messages sent over the whatsapp group: 'don't walk out the front door with any wine bottles visible'. alcohol is a MAJOR component of this entire furore. i doubt they would have hung around until 4am every friday playing dungeons & dragons with sparkling water.

Last edited by uziq (2022-05-26 04:09:10)

yes, soft drinks, famously associated with anti-social behaviour and increased rates of lawlessness. no, that's alcohol. but great deflection.

who is arguing with what adults do on a friday night? i like a drink on a friday night.

devising some of the most draconian lockdown rules ever seen in peacetime and then flagrantly breaching them, repeatedly, intentionally, just so that you can get pissed on wine at the office every friday, though ... that's something else. everyone else went without 'works drinks' or even drinks at their fucking relatives' funerals/wakes, didn't they?

way to miss the entire point of 'party-gate'.

uziq wrote:

who is arguing with what adults do on a friday night? i like a drink on a friday night.

devising some of the most draconian lockdown rules ever seen in peacetime and then flagrantly breaching them, repeatedly, intentionally, just so that you can get pissed on wine at the office every friday, though ... that's something else. everyone else went without 'works drinks' or even drinks at their fucking relatives' funerals/wakes, didn't they?

way to miss the entire point of 'party-gate'.

Way to miss what I said.

I wrote:

Obviously I think Johnson should have gone ages ago, for lockdown breaches mainly

Hancock got the boot for lockdown breaches for canoodling.

No-one cares that MPs drink or canoodle, its the breaches of the covid rules that matter really.