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His mother was a pleb, the male line weren't exactly. Jacob went to prep school, Eton and Trinity college.

i think the oxford lot recognise farage rather well. the City and oxbridge are not exactly antipodes. you're just relying too much on his own populist portrayal. it's no different from trump vis-a-vis the political establishment. more often than not the money-men and trumpers are at the same balls as the political elites, bankrolling their election campaigns and donating mega-bucks. they're the same.

That was my point, you seem especially slow today.

Dilbert_X wrote:

a bunch of public school history coasters who have deluded themselves into believing they understand technocracy and the people because they once wrote an essay on industry and got a B and met Nigel Farage at a party isn't it

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So anyway, seems pretty obvious Downing St and the Met are acting in concert to protect the PM.

Its like the cold war all over again.

I am still getting the 'garlic to vampire' reaction to alcohol when I see/smell/think about it. Weird how one awful hangover rewired my brain to alcohol.

nice thesis except the majority of the people involved in these parties are not the eton-classics lot.

no. 10’s office is full of SPADs and student politics type. they are overwhelmingly young, which has been commented on previously by the tory faithful and party proper. an incredibly juvenile atmosphere has presided over the executive office … but that’s because dom cummings purposefully wanted to recruit based on ‘genius ability’ and not from the usual public school->oxbridge->civil servant mandarin route.

so once again you are full of prejudices and totally divorced from the actual matter. precisely what has characterized the 'cummings mastermind' no 10 and its rather aggressive stance to the rest of the legislative/judiciary is precisely this contempt for the haw-haw, amiable gent yet sociopathically selfish and insider'ish establishment idiot stereotype that you keep invoking. you really can't have it both ways. if there's a vulgar, selfish and juvenile workplace atmosphere at no 10, look no further than all the whizzkids and 'mould breakers' brought in by your favourite advocate for technocratic governance.

some of these parties were attended by up to 60-70 people. you don’t have to look very far beneath the chortling BoJo/gove type figureheads to see a very different cast of people. similar to how the cameron executive and, indeed, the blair years were full of slimy PR men and tabloid editors/‘comms experts’. it’s not exactly formal hall at christ church in there.

two of the most notorious whizz kids on the BoJo/cummings brain trust team were typical ‘disruptors’, some uncouth tech-geeks from new zealand who between them didn’t have 40 years of age. look up sean topham and ben guerin, aka 'topham guerin'.

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responsibility lies with boris johnson, no question, as in any scenario where workplace culture has taken a dive off a cliff.

but the make-up of the office, and those partaking in the nonstop irresponsibility and 'banter' culture, are just as much tech-geeks and oiks as effete eton classicists. i don't know why you have such a retardly manichean view of the world.

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you need to read more about how much johnson deferred to cummings, and how much cummings deferred and gave free rein to his 'genius', 'outcast' , 'misfit' staff hires.

once again, the entire culture of no 10 downing street has been an experiment, aggressively pitched, against all the old 'sclerotic' forms of whitehall-type governance, the formality and (supposed) mediocrity of the old hierarchies. cummings and his ilk were given free reign to create their own work culture based on their own ideas.

johnson's head of staff was responsible for a lot of the email circulars. a law graduate from cambridge. not exactly the eton-oxford-humanities type you like to rant against in your misconstrued attacks against all the 'decadence' of the snobs. we're talking a traditional law-path graduate, not 'PPE' or any of your other shibboleths -- and law/jurisprudence degrees, LLBs, postgrad qualifications, etc, are hardly the real provenance of the 'humanities'.

Before entering government, Reynolds worked as a lawyer in London.[2] From 1997, he worked at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.[3]

Becoming a diplomat, Reynolds served at the British High Commission in Pretoria, South Africa as Deputy High Commissioner between July 2011 and November 2014.[4][5]

... unless you want to make out, of course, that someone with a near-identical career and posting as your own father is part of the 'corrupt elite'.

in addition, there's a quite heavy implication - you've alluded to it yourself when making misogynistic wisecracks - that johnson's own wife had essentially set up private court. that's why cummings left or was booted out, after all: conflict with carrie johnson, who was making her own appointments and pushing her own agenda. not exactly an eton-oxford-humanities type there, either. she's thoroughly a middle-class botherer. pretty sure she did theatre or drama or something at warwick. are you going to suggest no 10 has been dangerously over-run by acolytes of conceptual dance?

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£4 billion of covid contract fraud written off.
£9 billion of wasted PPE contracts and surplus orders rotting in a warehouse, medically unusable.

‘£350 million extra a week for the NHS, just get brexit done’.
actually btw we are increasing the national insurance tax by 10%. you’ve got to pay for the NHS if you want to keep it!

all this approved by a chancellor of the exchequer who is the richest MP ever, a literal billionaire, and who also voted - twice - against extending free school meals provisions during the pandemic to the poorest students.

the funniest thing is that lickspittle fascist droogs like dilbert will tell you that it’s refugees seeking shelter or benefit claimant fraud that are ruining the country. you know, annual benefit cheats amounting to £60 million a year, or 2% of the total fraud committed.

but remember: white collar crime doesn’t hurt anyone else! it’s jewish ponzi schemes and untrustworthy romanians that should be watched out for.

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‘his fellow indians’ lmao. sunak is from the public school anglophile elite, not a terrace of bengalis near brick lane. he’s a tory party stooge not some racial partisan.

you have some very funny ideas.

https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1488607 … 84675?s=21

nigeria and … iran? do you just pull these names out of hat depending on which way your xenophobia blows that day, on a whim, or what? how many poor iranians are there scrounging on benefits in the U.K.? i see lots of rich iranians but not many council blocks full of them.

lmao there are 3,000 iranian refugees a year. let me guess, you read about them as ‘boat people’ and think there’s an ‘overwhelming invasion’. the U.K. being turned into an iranian benefits mill, indeed.

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it’s what the brexiteers voted for. enterprising global free market, no?

it would be much better if socially backwards rednecks and a severely developmentally stunted, backwards-looking party weren't allowed to enact their psychodramas on the national/global stage. seems to me like the 'tory heartlands' barely even know themselves what they want: stoked up by farage, pandered to by cynical money-men, led by donkeys. 'we want this and we want it NOW!' 'no, not that!' 'why is my business suffering?' 'no, no indians, we meant no to those as well as no to europe, we didn't read the small print about being fine with a WTO-style deal ...', 'just make us rich and the beneficiaries of global trade without any of its attendant costs; make everyone else deal with that part'.

it's like dealing with a creche of very entitled children. if this is the party of 'white middle england' then they're rather letting the side down.

✅ £37bn on Test & Trace that “made no difference”
✅ £12bn lost to Brexit in a single month
✅ £4.3bn Covid fraud written off
✅ £8.7bn on PPE written off
✅ £7k a day on consultants
✅ 4% Brexit hit to GDP

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maybe stop viewing politicians', or indeed any career worker's, abilities based on an undergraduate subject they read when they were 18 years old?

honestly, are you so fucking myopic in engineering or what? even like 80% of STEM graduates don't go on to work in fields directly relevant to their degree.

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