_j5689_
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

heres what i would do if i were in ur situation

wait until intel conroe cpus come out, cheapest one is 186 usd that runs as fast as a 300dollar+amd athalon X2
get a conroe supported mobo (G965 at that time), 2 X1gb ddr2 ram at around 180 bucks, keep old hdds and use a new gfx card at least a 7600gt (230?)
I can't do that, I only have 160$.
dammit! thats gotta suck... well get a 2.4ghz p4 northwood.
I want at least 50$ left over so I have something to work with.
Cybargs
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_j5689_ wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:


I can't do that, I only have 160$.
dammit! thats gotta suck... well get a 2.4ghz p4 northwood.
I want at least 50$ left over so I have something to work with.
well its really hard right now since intel doesnt produce any more of those products, a 2.2 northwood would do.
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_j5689_
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You should repost that link to the parts thing and July 23rd, people seem to like knowing it.
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_j5689_
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_j5689_ wrote:

I think I found it:

http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=108

98% this is the one.  2.2 GHz Pentium 4 processor for 80$ with free shipping.
I didn't even realize this one had such great cache speed compare to the others, I was just taken in by the price, lol.  Glad I continued to look, I almost bought a used piece of shit on eBay.
Cybargs
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i would worry about the 400mhz bus speed...
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_j5689_
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I can't afford to worry about it.
Cybargs
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi … tegory=343

here u go uber cheap celerons on socket 478 2.53 ghz w/ 533 mhz fsb for 50 bucks
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_j5689_
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My mobo doesn't do 533MHz, only 400.
Cybargs
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_j5689_ wrote:

My mobo doesn't do 533MHz, only 400.
well... u can try underclocking... i would save up for a whole year and get a really cheap conroe setup. i wouldnt upgrade so much in ur situation since ur if u upgrade sumthing, sumthing else will always be the bottleneck
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_j5689_
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+364|7011|Riva, MD

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

My mobo doesn't do 533MHz, only 400.
well... u can try underclocking... i would save up for a whole year and get a really cheap conroe setup. i wouldnt upgrade so much in ur situation since ur if u upgrade sumthing, sumthing else will always be the bottleneck
I don't use a PCI video card if you're still unconvinced.
_j5689_
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+364|7011|Riva, MD
What do you mean by "cheap" Conroe?  How many different speeds are they making and for what bus speeds?
Cybargs
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_j5689_ wrote:

What do you mean by "cheap" Conroe?  How many different speeds are they making and for what bus speeds?
well, the motherboard will cost the most, theres a board out there from aopen that has ddr2 and ddr support, so its easier to switch. but i would wait till later if u dont have the cash. btw conroe cpu wont work on ANY existing boards... except for the aopen one and intel bad axe 975x.

cheapest conroe now is 183 dollars 1.83ghz and 1066 fsb, but later in the year there will be like a celeron edition w/ 800mhz fsb... probly like around 120ish, the price is still un announced

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware … 83765.html

Last edited by cyborg_ninja-117 (2006-05-29 09:01:52)

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_j5689_
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+364|7011|Riva, MD
By then I should have a job anyway.
Janus67
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+86|6889|Ohio, USA

Snipedya14 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

heres what i would do if i were in ur situation

wait until intel conroe cpus come out, cheapest one is 186 usd that runs as fast as a 300dollar+amd athalon X2
get a conroe supported mobo (G965 at that time), 2 X1gb ddr2 ram at around 180 bucks, keep old hdds and use a new gfx card at least a 7600gt (230?)
The kids budget is 80 bucks.....

I sure hope you dont work in the IT Field, Always trying to sell more, you are going to have alot of angry customers.

You suggested a new system, thats fine, makes sense. But he said no, and you keep suggesting new systems. Now conroe has been mentioned. I mean WTF?
the budget is $160.  I don't see how putting a bandaid on it would be very good.  I mean he would basically be adding 600mhz to his computer... whoopdidoo.  It would be far better to save up for a few months (or however long it takes) and get something that will give an actual performance increase.  From what I can tell he may see an increase of 10-15 fps, which is some, but not comparable to a jump of 30-50 if he would spend the little extra and save.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7011|Riva, MD
Will that heatsink/fan fit with the airduct above the heatsink/fan area or do you think I will have to remove the duct for the new fan to fit?
Cybargs
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_j5689_ wrote:

Will that heatsink/fan fit with the airduct above the heatsink/fan area or do you think I will have to remove the duct for the new fan to fit?
depends on the size of the case, can u give us a spec of ur case?
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7011|Riva, MD
Year: 2001- 2002, I don't know if year really matters, I just thought this would be handy.
Model: HP Pavilion 750n
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7011|Riva, MD
Hold on, gonna try to upload some pics.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7011|Riva, MD
Here's one:

https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g246/_j5689_/Computerpictures001.jpg

That flash makes my hands look small.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2006-05-29 09:29:29)

Snipedya14
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Janus67 wrote:

Snipedya14 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

heres what i would do if i were in ur situation

wait until intel conroe cpus come out, cheapest one is 186 usd that runs as fast as a 300dollar+amd athalon X2
get a conroe supported mobo (G965 at that time), 2 X1gb ddr2 ram at around 180 bucks, keep old hdds and use a new gfx card at least a 7600gt (230?)
The kids budget is 80 bucks.....

I sure hope you dont work in the IT Field, Always trying to sell more, you are going to have alot of angry customers.

You suggested a new system, thats fine, makes sense. But he said no, and you keep suggesting new systems. Now conroe has been mentioned. I mean WTF?
the budget is $160.  I don't see how putting a bandaid on it would be very good.  I mean he would basically be adding 600mhz to his computer... whoopdidoo.  It would be far better to save up for a few months (or however long it takes) and get something that will give an actual performance increase.  From what I can tell he may see an increase of 10-15 fps, which is some, but not comparable to a jump of 30-50 if he would spend the little extra and save.
Considering the fact he is most likely going to need to rebuy windows (im thinking this is an OEM build) Get a new mobo, video card, and CPU. As well as A new PSU. That may be a bit out of this kids reach.

I was simply stating that, If you are working on a call, and they want Random Part A, and you suggest an upgrade 2x-3x the orignal budget, and they say no...you cant keep badgering them about it.

Why not drop 80 bucks to keep the system over till a birthday/other holiday where he can get a major upgrade.
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EDIT: I dont see a duct on that pic? Looks like everything will work fine. And yea...a can of air to take out that dust wouldnt hurt.

Last edited by Snipedya14 (2006-05-29 09:33:40)

TriggerHappy998
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Oh my god. Your CPU fan is completely encrusted with dust. How does it even spin?!
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7011|Riva, MD
I once took it out about two months ago and kinda rinsed a tiny bit of dust out of the heatsink, and now I can actually hear the fan running, lol.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7011|Riva, MD
Another:

https://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g246/_j5689_/Computerpictures002.jpg
TriggerHappy998
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_j5689_ wrote:

I once took it out about two months ago and kinda rinsed a tiny bit of dust out of the heatsink, and now I can actually hear the fan running, lol.
Rinsed? As in water?

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