BF2S Forums Realistic Weapon damage

It would make America too good. Also, a pistol shot to the head would kill. Everyone would just spray at people's heads hoping they hit...
In real life the PKM would probably kill you with the kickback and the accuracy is far worse than the MG36 which looks like a pop-gun sometimes because the terrible accuracy it can sometimes achieve...I persevere!

Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2006-05-26 08:48:38)

There's a few guns this game doesnt do justice to..

In real life a PKM shot (I'm talking ONE 7.63x59 bullet) to just about anywhere in the torso/head region would be fatal. It would rip through a vest, even one with a plate in it. It would knock you back about 5 feet when it did hit you. It would go through stone walls. The PKM is criminally underpowered in this game. I know people complain about it already but that's just because they have no idea how in real life, when a PKM opens up on you, you lose, EVERYTIME.

Last edited by DUX0726 (2006-05-26 10:44:21)

Go play Americas Army, please.  There you can die after 1 shot as often as you want.

This is AO's older brother how is piggy-backing off of AO'a account (because I am too lazy to make my own),  NOT AO!!!

Instant death by rifle fire in a game is not as bad as you would think.  I have played Experiance WWII (a bf1942 mod) for a while.  This mod had very realistic weapon damage, i.e.: instant death or imobilisation.  In fact, it even had shot displacement and engine destruction on vehicles.  These were facts that you learned to deal with, by using squad tactics.  Lone-wolfs usualy died, unless he was the machinegunner.  In that case, he was either flanked or shot from afar.

Either you adapted to these facts, or you died.  A lot.


* Engine destruction on vehicles is a must have improvement.
* MORE SMALL ARMS!

- FAL
- M14 (both of these are croud pleasers)
- C7 (the Canadian's full auto version of the M16A2)
- AN-94 (the Russians have other guns than the AK-74M you know)
- (maybe some of the russian truly silent firearms for the special forces)
- End of barrel anti-tank grenades
- (I was going to say the L96, but Dice beat me to it)
- Galil or TAR-21
- SV-98
- MG3
- AUG
Just to name a few

*I would love realistic weapon damage, but I know that this will never happen outside of mods

Simple rules for weapon damage:
1.)  Sinper's kill, always (or criticaly wounds).
2.)  Kevlar helmets only work if your Cyen Willis, or if it's a 9mm.
3.)  2 in the chest, 1 in the head, 5 in the legs (standard rifle).
4.)  Grenades don't kill, they shread.  (IRL a M2 frag has a horible rape radius of 30 yards)
5.)  Aircraft (this includes helecopters) can be destroyed every easily (i.e.: smallarms fire), but they can kill anything and everything.


and parachutes work at ten feet, just like real life.  Heh, funny (trails off...)

Last edited by Apollyon Omega (2006-05-28 20:18:32)

I disagree with you about Americas Army being fun... I haven't played any scrims or anything (because most of the clans are gung-ho nutcases with ranks and other retarded stuff) and pubbing in AA is just plain boring and dumb.  Don't get me wrong, I love the weapons sounds and effects and stuff, that's great, but the game just isn't ready to pick up and play.  It's so realistic I'd rather go outside and shoot at my friends with airsoft rifles.

Sitting down in 25 minute classes just to be able to play as a Medic or Special Forces is pretty lame, too.

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-05-28 20:37:14)

PGB again.

americas army the game sucks stop airsoft is for posers stop going outside to shoot eachother with plastic bullet training rounds stop those things hurt like a b***h stop

Last edited by Apollyon Omega (2006-05-28 21:03:26)

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

If one more person says the M95 should be a one hit kill I'm going to have to beat them over the head with a copy of CS until they see AWPs everywhere.

I actually think the AWP is quite realistic damage-wise. 4/5s damage to the legs, and death waste and above. If you got torn in half by a .50 cal round, you'd be hurtin'. But I think the damage in BF2 is PERFECT. Anymore and it would be TOO realistic, any less and it would just be gay. They could add more weapons/maps/kits ect.

Last edited by SF.Disante (2006-05-29 01:13:39)

Guys dont forget: Gameplay in more important than realism (for DICE and me). So you'll never find a 1-shot-1-kill-handweapon in BF2.

If BF2 was realistic, you wouldnt be able to fight after one recieved shot. Weapons wouldnt be incapable of shooting father then 50m. Tanks would (perhaps) die if hit by a single Eryx. And so on... To my mind it would be less fun.

Shall be no offence: Its quite interesting how ppl pick out a weapon (system) and want it to be realistic every 2 weeks.

Miller wrote:

Apollyon Omega wrote:

Miller wrote:

I think the M24 is underpowered too.  In life this weapons ammo is specifically designed to kill one shot.  Long range, short range, though body armor and all.  If the game was made more realistic the M1A2 would destroy all other tanks one shot, and suffer no damage what so ever when hit by another tanks shell.

Piggy-Backing Brother again.  The M1A2 is just as easily destroyed as other Main Battle Tanks.  Its primary cannon is also comparatively weak compared to other modern MBTs.  All it has going for it is that damnass computer,  which is now equipped in most NATO country's MBTs.  The Russians now have a similar computer equipped in their T-80s and T-90s.  The only other thing that the M1A2 has that almost all of the other tanks don't have is the engine, which is a major disadvantage.  That helicopter engine eats kerosene like nobody's business and gives it the largest IR signature in the world!

It all boils down to simple math:

Me + RGP-7 with PG7-VR HEAT grenade = M1A2 (or any MBT for that matter) becoming a very expensive paper weight!

(Or I could use a Carl-Gustav, that would be interesting...)

No all tanks are made with an outer explosive layer so RPG's and rockets cannot get through to the crew.  The M1A2 is always being upgraded and has been show that nearly all modern tank shells or tanks cannot destroy it, much less damage it.  The main cannon is 120mm(correct if wrong) and yes it is weak.  But it wasn't made to be powerful, the type of shell is what makes the M1 deadly.  The computer has been fitted so that even while on the move in a hilly area an Abrams will be able to hit a target at its maximum range.  The engine has a large heat signature yes, but what is that going to do when you're dead!  If you didn't exactly notice that in the Gulf war the USA only lost 4-5 M1's.  Not because of hostile tanks, but because of malfunctions in the engine and computer.  More European tanks are getting close to what the Abrams can do, I will give them that, but for now the Abrams is still Number 1.  If you don't agree with me there was a show on the Military channel that went through a list of 10 tanks, gave what is good and bad about it, then said where it was on the list.  Now, the number one tank on that show was given to the Tiger from WWII.  Due to its large cannon and fear factor.  The M1 was placed as number two and then it was followed by the Challenger.  I hope this clarifies which tank is better, M1, or any others.

The Russians have a RPG shell which detonates the Reactive armor prematurely before the primary charge takes effect.

Last edited by Apollyon Omega (2006-05-29 15:53:40)

Spearhead wrote:

Apollyon Omega wrote:

PGB again.

americas army the game sucks stop airsoft is for posers stop going outside to shoot eachother with plastic bullet training rounds stop those things hurt like a b***h stop

IDK what you have against airsofting... it's fun as hell.  My M16A2 is freakin cool as heck.

I, Apollyon Omega, have nothing against airsoft.  It's my brother is the one with an unfounded bias. (My brother used my account a few nights ago)  I like the AUG personaly.  (And a word of advice, don't use 'as hell' or 'as heck' quite as often. It sounds juvenile)