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Extra Medium wrote:

Jay wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Considering that a new walmart essentially spells doom for at the very least 5 local businesses............

Who gives a crap?

The 5 business owners, their employees and all of their families?

Liar.

What right did they have to stay in business? Who's to say they would've been in business a year hence anyway?

Should've competed better.

Jay wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Jay wrote:

Who gives a crap?

The 5 business owners, their employees and all of their families?

Liar.

What right did they have to stay in business? Who's to say they would've been in business a year hence anyway?

Should've competed better.

for someone who 'understands economics' you sure have a rather short-sighted understanding of "competition".

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Jay wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

jay loves big corporations and trickle-down economics but the first decade of his adult working-life and adult education were all floated by state interventionism and federal coddling. he's just so in contact with the realities of the market that he can tell everyone else that corporations are good.

You who has never worked a real job in his life...

Whatever. Remain ignorant.

a) have worked a real job. have worked two in fact, ding ding, and i'm 23. what were you doing then? oh wait, we know, because you wrote an emotional diary about it: sitting around on your ass at home, sponging off mom, dropping out of ICT courses at college. okay. try and condescend some more. i have 2 degrees and have worked for apple. remind yourself where you were at 23 again. think a little harder next time.

b) 'ignorant'? because i prefer to get my coffee from local stores with better brews? because i prefer to get my meat from the local butcher, fresh? ok, guess i'm 'ignorant'. enjoy obesity and your encroaching colon cancer from all the cheap supermarket shit you pile into your lumbered frame.

I've been working continuously since I was 13. At 23 I was performing very low paid public service while you are still sucking off the public tit and giving back nothing to society. Keep trying though.

Jay wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Jay wrote:

You who has never worked a real job in his life...

Whatever. Remain ignorant.

a) have worked a real job. have worked two in fact, ding ding, and i'm 23. what were you doing then? oh wait, we know, because you wrote an emotional diary about it: sitting around on your ass at home, sponging off mom, dropping out of ICT courses at college. okay. try and condescend some more. i have 2 degrees and have worked for apple. remind yourself where you were at 23 again. think a little harder next time.

b) 'ignorant'? because i prefer to get my coffee from local stores with better brews? because i prefer to get my meat from the local butcher, fresh? ok, guess i'm 'ignorant'. enjoy obesity and your encroaching colon cancer from all the cheap supermarket shit you pile into your lumbered frame.

I've been working continuously since I was 13. At 23 I was performing very low paid public service while you are still sucking off the public tit and giving back nothing to society. Keep trying though.

"still giving nothing to society?"  As if Uzi ever did.  Or will.

Extra Medium wrote:

"still giving nothing to society?"  As if Uzi ever did.  Or will.

that is not right. his advice is worth everything i've paid for it.

Steve-0 wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

"still giving nothing to society?"  As if Uzi ever did.  Or will.

that is not right. his advice is worth everything i've paid for it.

Yet he can't even get off the Heroin.

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Steve-0 wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

"still giving nothing to society?"  As if Uzi ever did.  Or will.

that is not right. his advice is worth everything i've paid for it.

you got mad at me because i kept telling you "to stop drinking" when you were having alcoholic melt-downs on this forum.

my imperatives technically saved your life. one day you can buy me a non-alcoholic drink. thank you, take care.

like i said - your advice is worth every farthing, penny, whatever poofter money your blue-collar grandpa earned honestly - that i paid for it.

your contributions, on the other hand, don't really amount to much, do they?

have you earned said farthing or shilling?

have you done honest work for honest pay, or are you snorting coke off of your fathers' bequethed backside?

what have you contributed to society outside of your fathers' accountant's time and effort?

i've helped built the house i live in, and paid the contractors fair and negotiated prices for their work and effort.

you read books as your contribution, you have not lived except for the largesse of others, and have not earned any discernible thing, including my respect.

why would i take your advice, or when, poofter?

Last edited by Steve-0 (2013-07-18 18:22:44)

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Big businesses provide more and better jobs than the small and ever beloved small businesses. Most small businesses only enrich the owners and often suck money out of places without ever making local investment.

small business owners tend to circulate their money back into the immediate community and local economy a lot better than walmart CEO's, though.

I disagree. Walmart doesn't make a lot of money per item. They make pennies and make up for it by selling in bulk. Small places must sell items at a higher price since they don't have the size to squeeze out profits at the margins. This puts downward pressure on the suppliers who are mostly Chinese anyway but for the average American, and especially in economically depressed areas a Wal-Mart can be a great thing to have.

Secondly I like I said before many small businesses suck out their communities. The best example for this premise is the Korean store in a black neighborhood. Koreans come in, hire only their family and other Koreans, don't live or invest in the area, and charge high prices because the people have no choice. That is money that is leaving and never coming back. Now if a Wal-Mart showed up and wiped out all of these little Korean places, the locals would get jobs working for Wal-Mart, get cheaper stuff, and see overall economic development.

Macbeth wrote:

Uzique The Lesser wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Big businesses provide more and better jobs than the small and ever beloved small businesses. Most small businesses only enrich the owners and often suck money out of places without ever making local investment.

small business owners tend to circulate their money back into the immediate community and local economy a lot better than walmart CEO's, though.

I disagree. Walmart doesn't make a lot of money per item. They make pennies and make up for it by selling in bulk. Small places must sell items at a higher price since they don't have the size to squeeze out profits at the margins. This puts downward pressure on the suppliers who are mostly Chinese anyway but for the average American, and especially in economically depressed areas a Wal-Mart can be a great thing to have.

Secondly I like I said before many small businesses suck out their communities. The best example for this premise is the Korean store in a black neighborhood. Koreans come in, hire only their family and other Koreans, don't live or invest in the area, and charge high prices because the people have no choice. That is money that is leaving and never coming back. Now if a Wal-Mart showed up and wiped out all of these little Korean places, the locals would get jobs working for Wal-Mart, get cheaper stuff, and see overall economic development.

Walmart only makes a profit on sheer volume alone. I guess its really an American thing to have superstores and what not. Only superstore we have here is costco but you only go there for bulk shit coz its far away. Most of our groceries besides coles and woolies (big 2 chains) can be bought in malls/department stores, there are a ton of butcher shops (usually really good meat) and tons of fruits+vegs shops and sometimes a store like thomas dux (good quality meats and vegs + artisan bread). You can still go to one place to "do all your shopping" no ones asking people to travel all day to buy from 5 different places. Our shopping areas are pretty congregated into one place.

So what if the korean store only hires their own family. It's a family business ffs. Why can't a black guy open a store in their own neighborhood. That korean is a brave motherfucker being out of his cultural zone and sell goods black people. How are they not investing in the area? they opened up a fucking store. How is that not an "investment." you're like one of those kids bitching about messicans sending their money overseas.

Cybargs wrote:

So what if the korean store only hires their own family. It's a family business ffs. Why can't a black guy open a store in their own neighborhood. That korean is a brave motherfucker being out of his cultural zone and sell goods black people. How are they not investing in the area? they opened up a fucking store. How is that not an "investment." you're like one of those kids bitching about messicans sending their money overseas.

Opening a store isn't investing in an area in the sense of actually contributing to the economic growth of the place. How much money goes back into the community after it passes through the store? None. It all leaves the community with the Koreans. A Wal-Mart on the other hand employs people from the area. Has maintenance done by people from the area. Gives things cheaper to the people in the area. I couldn't care less about the immigrant Korean family living the American dream by profiting off of blacks in the ghetto. A Wal-Mart better serves communities.

Okay. Please explain how a Korean store on a corner of the hood helps grow the local economy.

The only thing that "trickles down" is bullshit.  But eh, you work hard and you've got a right to keep what you've earn no matter what some communist says.

Big box stores are hated because one bigbox means 20 or 30 small local businesses go down the shitter, and they effectively lower the median income of an area.  But whose to blame there, the store or the consumers?

Last edited by BVC (2013-07-18 22:55:09)

Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Okay. Please explain how a Korean store on a corner of the hood helps grow the local economy.

how does it not?

Are you really this dumb?