eleven bravo
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eleven bravo wrote:

even if romney wins, 2 out of the 3 top three in a close race are unelectable.  iowa is a joke
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KEN-JENNINGS
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jay, I think the system we have in place will be changed one of two ways - either abrupt revolution or slow, steady changes.  Ron Paul is unelectable because he wants to implement radical changes - changes that will affect revenue streams that many people within the system rely on.  Not only will the American public as a whole raise an eyebrow to radical changes. the people within the system will resist as much as possible.  That's two strikes against the Grinch who wants to steal government back from the assfuckers.
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hes also a hypocrite and the most favored candidate by white racists around the nation
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Iowa's normally a pretty decent predictor of how the rest of the caucuses will go (although Huckabee won in '08), but when you have such a unique grouping of candidates like this, I don't think this is telling. Hell, New Hampshire and South Carolina might not even be telling. That being said, Rick fucking Santorum? Shows you how lost the Republican party is and how far those who truly just can't stand Mitt Romney will go to have him defeated.
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Jay wrote:

Just because the line of thinking is alien to you doesn't make it wrong.
Why do you assume you are the only person here who knows anything about libertarianism?
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eleven bravo wrote:

hes also a hypocrite and the most favored candidate by white racists around the nation
everyone at that level is a hypocrite.  Ron Paul has the distinction of appealing to the bat shit crazy ruby-ridge militants and closet racists (think ATG and g@lt).
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exactly
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Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

jay, I think the system we have in place will be changed one of two ways - either abrupt revolution or slow, steady changes.  Ron Paul is unelectable because he wants to implement radical changes - changes that will affect revenue streams that many people within the system rely on.  Not only will the American public as a whole raise an eyebrow to radical changes. the people within the system will resist as much as possible.  That's two strikes against the Grinch who wants to steal government back from the assfuckers.
and this right here is the answer
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

hes also a hypocrite and the most favored candidate by white racists around the nation
everyone at that level is a hypocrite.  Ron Paul has the distinction of appealing to the bat shit crazy ruby-ridge militants and closet racists (think ATG and g@lt).
what makes me a closet racist?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

jay, I think the system we have in place will be changed one of two ways - either abrupt revolution or slow, steady changes.  Ron Paul is unelectable because he wants to implement radical changes - changes that will affect revenue streams that many people within the system rely on.  Not only will the American public as a whole raise an eyebrow to radical changes. the people within the system will resist as much as possible.  That's two strikes against the Grinch who wants to steal government back from the assfuckers.
and this right here is the answer
which is what i said but you wanted to turn it into some ideological debate between you and me
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eleven bravo wrote:

which is what i said but you wanted to turn it into some ideological debate between you and me
Only because you've been going on and on and on about how much he sucks for the past week without giving any reasons why
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Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

hes also a hypocrite and the most favored candidate by white racists around the nation
everyone at that level is a hypocrite.  Ron Paul has the distinction of appealing to the bat shit crazy ruby-ridge militants and closet racists (think ATG and g@lt).
what makes me a closet racist?
that thread about the two cities with one on the wrong side of the tracks comes to mind.
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Go rick(santorum)!!!!
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


everyone at that level is a hypocrite.  Ron Paul has the distinction of appealing to the bat shit crazy ruby-ridge militants and closet racists (think ATG and g@lt).
what makes me a closet racist?
that thread about the two cities with one on the wrong side of the tracks comes to mind.
the point of that thread was to show that it doesn't matter how much money you throw at a school district. whenever a district comes up with failing marks the teachers union and their political lackeys insist that more money simply needs to be added to the pile the district receives. yeah, I have some pent up angst from my childhood towards m&m throwers but that has hardly anything to do with race. poor kids are generally godawful students regardless of the color of their skin.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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rick santorum is really mentioning mussolini like that name is significant in a 2012 american election
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Jay
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Christ, all this rhetoric about defense budget cuts makes me ill. If all these scheduled cuts go through it would take the defense budget down to what it was in 2007. Ohnoes.
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Jay
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On the same note, I really wish Iran would stfu until after the election.
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Jay wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Jay wrote:

what makes me a closet racist?
that thread about the two cities with one on the wrong side of the tracks comes to mind.
the point of that thread was to show that it doesn't matter how much money you throw at a school district. whenever a district comes up with failing marks the teachers union and their political lackeys insist that more money simply needs to be added to the pile the district receives. yeah, I have some pent up angst from my childhood towards m&m throwers but that has hardly anything to do with race. poor kids are generally godawful students regardless of the color of their skin.

Jay wrote:

I guess my question is this. If you look at the disparity between the two school districts including income, population density, the graduation rate in the school and everything else, why would anyone in their right mind choose to have and raise kids in Hempstead? This wasn't meant as an indictment of any race, it was an indictment against those who obviously don't have the means to bring a kid into the world that has a shot in life and yet they still have kids. In fact, they have more kids than those that live in Garden City (higher family size).

Wouldn't it be in the best interest of the residents to 'get out' before pumping out the kids?
Ha, well I'd never advocate anything like that. This exercise has made me question what it is that makes certain humans (regardless of race) disregard their own living situation and the situation of any child they would bring into the world. I'm poor right now and the thought of bringing a kid into the world isn't even remotely an option. For some it doesn't seem to matter and I'm curious why.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=134864&p=1
Scanned the whole thread a few times and I didn't read any tirades against school spending.



I miss FM. Along with ATG and Turq.
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Macbeth wrote:

Doesn't the U.S. government sink a shitload of money into poor schools through the department of education? I know that the Newark schools are some of the worst in the country but at the same time get shit loads of Federal money for various things as well as donations from philanthropist groups.

In any case funding doesn't matter when it comes to how well schools do.

Of course Cherry Hill is one of the states many "moneyed" suburbs while Newark is a shit stain on humanity but it goes to show that funding doesn't have anything to do with school performance. Neither does class size. In has to do with parental involvement and environment. It could be certainly be argued that the state of Michigan is doing the smart thing of trying to clean up the environment first rather than sinking money into the black hole that is Detroit schools.

As much as I love teachers, academia, learning etc. this is just another attempt of the teachers union to grab more money and power. for the love of god don't think I'm against teachers unions or their existence

The truth about the American education system is that there isn't nearly enough parental involvement. If more parents here were involved in their students education our schools would shit all over European and Asian schools. But it's easy for people to complain about funding or take shots at teachers and their unions rather than say the harsh truth that Americans have to put in some fucking effort.

tl;dr Naggers need to take some responsibility.
Now that's a good post about education spending.
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Jay wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

because the second he says get rid of the department of education/commerce/energy/let iran have nukes, people will be reminded why. are you that unfamailiar with the national electorate? its not rocket science.
Why should there be a Department of Education? Do we not have state boards? County boards? District boards? How much government does it require to pick a text book?

Just because the line of thinking is alien to you doesn't make it wrong.
My 2c - because Texas wouldn't teach evolution...
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Macbeth wrote:

Along with ATG and Turq.
who?
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Jay
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AussieReaper wrote:

Jay wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

because the second he says get rid of the department of education/commerce/energy/let iran have nukes, people will be reminded why. are you that unfamailiar with the national electorate? its not rocket science.
Why should there be a Department of Education? Do we not have state boards? County boards? District boards? How much government does it require to pick a text book?

Just because the line of thinking is alien to you doesn't make it wrong.
My 2c - because Texas wouldn't teach evolution...
Yes it would. The state is not that ass backwards. Even if they did, so what? Their loss and their kids loss.

Some members of their state board tried forcing the teaching of intelligent design into their science textbooks and it didn't fly.
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eleven bravo wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Along with ATG and Turq.
who?
Alexander The Grape and Turquoise. Two of your least favorite people >_>
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dont remember
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