It wasn't a war it was a military operation to protect civilians.Macbeth wrote:
I knew the Euros were complaining about not being able to take out armor without our help but I didn't know we committed so much to the war.
Fuck Israel
I didn't realise Qatar, the UAE and Jordan contributed anything at all.Macbeth wrote:
Will work
I knew the Euros were complaining about not being able to take out armor without our help but I didn't know we committed so much to the war.
their turn is coming ^^
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
...show me the schematic
Was actually quite a big deal that they did.Pubic wrote:
I didn't realise Qatar, the UAE and Jordan contributed anything at all.Macbeth wrote:
Will work
I knew the Euros were complaining about not being able to take out armor without our help but I didn't know we committed so much to the war.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
There was an article in the paper pointing out that removing Saddam Gadaffi cost the US U$1bn, removing Saddam cost U$800bn.
Who's the fiscal conservative now eh?
(Gadaffi really did have WMD programs and sponsor terrorism BTW)
Edit: I r misspoke
Who's the fiscal conservative now eh?
(Gadaffi really did have WMD programs and sponsor terrorism BTW)
Edit: I r misspoke
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-11-15 00:41:32)
Fuck Israel
sort your shit out Dilbert. Makes no sense.
Gaddafi gave up his WMD programs after Saddam was ousted. Thus, there was no need to spend .01 to remove Gaddafi.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Saddam gave up his WMD programs before he was ousted, where was the need to spend .01 to remove him?
Fuck Israel
[rehash]He hadn't given up his programs. He was still operating a massive deception program, aimed at Iran, making them think he had WMD. Since nothing had been done for 10 years or so, he felt safe in playing that game, using UN inspectors and the world stage as part of it. As debriefed by him and others and corroborated by facts on the ground, post invasion.Dilbert_X wrote:
Saddam gave up his WMD programs before he was ousted, where was the need to spend .01 to remove him?
He miscalculated.
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“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
If by no one, you mean those who are already predisposed to hatred of Bush and Cheney and won't believe anything that doesn't align with their already set notions of what happened...then sure.Dilbert_X wrote:
No-one really believes that.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
No-one who doesn't have a vested interest in continuing to believe is what I mean.
Fuck Israel
Rrrriiiigggghhhhtttt
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
- globefish23
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Libyan militia captured Gaddafi's son Saif, as well as his secret service chief Senussi.
Last I heard, they don't want to extradite him to the Hague, but put him on trial in Libya.
They probably fear that he won't accidentally run into a bullet at the International Court of Justice.
Last I heard, they don't want to extradite him to the Hague, but put him on trial in Libya.
They probably fear that he won't accidentally run into a bullet at the International Court of Justice.
I don't see why you are so happy. What did they ever do to you? O right, sell you oil and cooperate with our governments intelligence services.
Yeah fuck those guys.
Yeah fuck those guys.
hello? egypt & syria need the nato bombs pls.
help asap.
help asap.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
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Sorry, I tend to use the smiley to indicate irony.Macbeth wrote:
I don't see why you are so happy. What did they ever do to you? O right, sell you oil and cooperate with our governments intelligence services.
Yeah fuck those guys.
Gaddafi's clan and buddies need to be punished hard for the atrocities they've committed.
You don't need a loony like Gaddafi in power to buy oil from Libya.
right. those who are about to replace gaddafi are going to make it all better.globefish23 wrote:
Sorry, I tend to use the smiley to indicate irony.Macbeth wrote:
I don't see why you are so happy. What did they ever do to you? O right, sell you oil and cooperate with our governments intelligence services.
Yeah fuck those guys.
Gaddafi's clan and buddies need to be punished hard for the atrocities they've committed.
the goal is not to simply buy oil from lybia.You don't need a loony like Gaddafi in power to buy oil from Libya.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Nah...because Europe should buy all its hydrocarbons from Russia. Duh.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
- globefish23
- sophisticated slacker
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Well, time is linear in one direction - the future.Shahter wrote:
right. those who are about to replace gaddafi are going to make it all better.
While Gaddafi already has commited a lot of atrocities and crimes, the new guys have not done so.
Are you implying that you'd rather leave someone like Gaddafi, continuing like he has done for 40 years, just because his successor may not make it better?
Where it gets leeched by Ukraine and Belarus, causing shortages in Europe in winter.FEOS wrote:
Nah...because Europe should buy all its hydrocarbons from Russia. Duh.Shahter wrote:
the goal is not to simply buy oil from lybia.
Let's wait till Nabucco has been finished in 2017, then we can get our gas from Asia and the Middle East directly and can circumvent Libya and Russia.
Don't forget Central Asia/South Caucasus...assuming big brother to the north allows that to happen.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I agree with Hegel's whole "history is a slaughter-bench" that eventually leads to a good outcome but not every development is a good development. You could go back and stumble while on the progression. It's not really linear...globefish23 wrote:
Well, time is linear in one direction - the future.Shahter wrote:
right. those who are about to replace gaddafi are going to make it all better.
While Gaddafi already has commited a lot of atrocities and crimes, the new guys have not done so.
Are you implying that you'd rather leave someone like Gaddafi, continuing like he has done for 40 years, just because his successor may not make it better?Where it gets leeched by Ukraine and Belarus, causing shortages in Europe in winter.FEOS wrote:
Nah...because Europe should buy all its hydrocarbons from Russia. Duh.Shahter wrote:
the goal is not to simply buy oil from lybia.
Let's wait till Nabucco has been finished in 2017, then we can get our gas from Asia and the Middle East directly and can circumvent Libya and Russia.
It's the fact that I rather work with the evil we know than the evil we don't. As far as Gaddafi goes we knew were his moral compass pointed- to Gaddafi. He worked with us on our antiterrorism efforts. He sold us oil. He didn't rock the boat and did business we plenty of U.S. companies. He also persecuted the religious nutters in his country. But now we are going to have to do business with god knows what that is going to beholden to Christ knows what or who. The worst thing that can come out of their, for us, is a democratic society that cares about it's people. The best is another Gaddafi who really like us.
As you can guess when it comes to foreign policy my compass points to the U.S. and the rest of the West. I don't care for the peoples of non-Western states.