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2011-10-08 10:55:02

#7701

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5813|Alba

jord wrote:
jmsprovan wrote:
m3thod wrote:
look nice and fancy but plays like like total shit. slow, cumbersome and generally retarded.

i despise games where i have no idea who shot me (killcam doesnt count) or where the the frig he was.
You despised BF2 then, right?

It would have been almost impossible to find some people in BF2 if it wasn't for commander spotting.
No it wasn't, there were only a set amount of places people could be and you just spotted such areas if under fire. The graphics of the foliage in bf3 make it significantly harder to find hows shooting at you.

So its really just a complaint that there isn't a graphics setting which makes it look like this

https://img397.imageshack.us/img397/709/thabomb6en.jpg

2011-10-08 10:55:40

#7702

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6672|UK

jmsprovan wrote:
m3thod wrote:
look nice and fancy but plays like like total shit. slow, cumbersome and generally retarded.

i despise games where i have no idea who shot me (killcam doesnt count) or where the the frig he was.
You despised BF2 then, right?

It would have been almost impossible to find some people in BF2 if it wasn't for commander spotting.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah riiiiiiiight, how many time have you ever played with a competent BF2 commander? Who had VOIP? You gave you assets when you requested? who didnt spam the shit out of the comms? Get the fuck out.

BF3 environment is too cluttered, too much going on, its too detailed to the point i don't know where people are. Couple this with the new 1/2 shots to kill i don't see how anyone can find this enjoyable.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2011-10-08 11:00:10

#7703

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5475|Ventura, California

FatherTed wrote:
2142 had portable AA, i can't remember how that was balanced but i don't recall that being annoying

It took two shots to bring a gunship down, and three for a transport. The active defense shields made the AA rockets a joke. On some servers I would have the lock warning almost everywhere I flew but I've rarely been shot down by one.

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-10-08 11:04:48

#7704

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5813|Alba

m3thod wrote:
jmsprovan wrote:
m3thod wrote:
look nice and fancy but plays like like total shit. slow, cumbersome and generally retarded.

i despise games where i have no idea who shot me (killcam doesnt count) or where the the frig he was.
You despised BF2 then, right?

It would have been almost impossible to find some people in BF2 if it wasn't for commander spotting.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah riiiiiiiight, how many time have you ever played with a competent BF2 commander? Who had VOIP? You gave you assets when you requested? who didnt spam the shit out of the comms? Get the fuck out.

BF3 environment is too cluttered, too much going on, its too detailed to the point i don't know where people are. Couple this with the new 1/2 shots to kill i don't see how anyone can find this enjoyable.

I have 150 commander hours over all my characters, I did all those things.

There was an IGN video I linked earlier from one of the other maps, they have made it so that it takes longer to kill people now.

Last edited by jmsprovan (2011-10-08 11:05:31)

2011-10-08 11:06:05

#7705

Racoon_Flyer: Member; +10|5935|Cambridge, UK

Map size is nothing compared to BF2, or atleast they don't make use of the space, it's just a clusterfuck in the middle where whoever shoots first from their bush wins.

2011-10-08 11:08:16

#7706

FloppY_: +1,010|6287|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

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Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2011-10-08 11:08:59

#7707

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

Racoon_Flyer wrote:
Map size is nothing compared to BF2, or atleast they don't make use of the space, it's just a clusterfuck in the middle where whoever shoots first from their bush wins.

maybe good thing, driving/boating for what felt like hours to be arty'd on arrival/strafed by a jet/etc got fucking old (think Zatar), similarly playing as inf on such big maps could end up with walking around for ages, finding a dude and aiming only to be headshot by some xXx420xXxl33txXxsniperxXx faglord in some tree a mile away was utterly dull.

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2011-10-08 11:13:02

#7708

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5813|Alba

FloppY_ wrote:
Worst thing about the commander in BF2 was "ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED"

On SAS maps it was funny because it was in that horrible faux posh English accent

2011-10-08 11:18:51

#7709

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

EF voiceovers worst voiceovers

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2011-10-08 11:20:31

#7710

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6672|UK

just as easy ignore a spamming commander. issue out of nothing.

it was more fun to spam insults at squads that didn't follow orders, my grandmother could do better etc

Last edited by m3thod (2011-10-08 11:22:40)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2011-10-08 11:22:21

#7711

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6672|UK

jmsprovan wrote:
m3thod wrote:
jmsprovan wrote:

You despised BF2 then, right?

It would have been almost impossible to find some people in BF2 if it wasn't for commander spotting.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah riiiiiiiight, how many time have you ever played with a competent BF2 commander? Who had VOIP? You gave you assets when you requested? who didnt spam the shit out of the comms? Get the fuck out.

BF3 environment is too cluttered, too much going on, its too detailed to the point i don't know where people are. Couple this with the new 1/2 shots to kill i don't see how anyone can find this enjoyable.
I have 150 commander hours over all my characters, I did all those things.

There was an IGN video I linked earlier from one of the other maps, they have made it so that it takes longer to kill people now.

good for you. You're in a very small minority that we call insignificant. The commander role was unfortunatly useless. either they didn't know how to play as one or everyone just ignored him.

it was easier to spot the enemy in BF2 no question.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2011-10-08 11:22:26

#7712

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

your grandmother does do better

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Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella

2011-10-08 11:47:23

#7713

(27th)Kaptyn: Member; +14|6515|AUS

3D spotting is a very poor mechanic for FPS games.
Seems to have been introduced because the low-grade players can't use a minimap properly (and it's all about making it accessable to the lowest common denominator these days).
Far too many kills are made on players who are out of Line-Of-Sight but are easily targeted due to the "spotted" caret above their heads.

Can be fixed a couple of ways.
1) Reduce the "spotted" duration to 2-3 seconds only. This allows you to notify nearby team-mates that an enemy is in the area but will reduce the ability to target players with fire when they are out of line of sight as the caret will disappear rapidly.
2) Provide a more comprehensive minimap in full colour with better functionality (nothing wrong with the BF2 style minimap) and remove 3D spotting altogether.

2011-10-08 11:47:37

#7714

Naturn: Deeds, not words.; +311|6607|Greenwood, IN

I just played the xbox version. I can tell you right now the PC has it good. All the problems we are having on the PC they are having on the console. To top things off the auto aim is almost non-existent. The graphical errors and zombie glitches are there was well.

2011-10-08 11:50:29

#7715

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5813|Alba

FatherTed wrote:
your grandmother does do better

http://wheelbarrow.ytmnd.com/

2011-10-08 11:53:30

#7716

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

enemy water vehicle spotted

do you even play eve anymore?

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2011-10-08 11:57:29

#7717

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5813|Alba

kinda

2011-10-08 11:59:30

#7718

Sturgeon: Member; +488|4942|Flintshire

Jets are pretty mint actually, only gripe is they're gash against armored ground vehicles, had a few rounds earlier and I've nearly unlocked the air radar.

The F18 fires the heatseeking missiles quicker though I noticed

https://bf3s.com/sigs/3dda27c6d0d9b22836605b152b9d214b99507f91.png

2011-10-08 12:05:10

#7719

FloppY_: +1,010|6287|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

FatherTed wrote:
enemy water vehicle spotted

do you even play eve anymore?

On Karkand and similar, "enemy boat spotted" was kinda funny imo

But meh, commander spam was a big problem with BF2

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2011-10-08 12:07:57

#7720

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

jmsprovan wrote:
kinda

find me a corp

actually just can i have your stuff etc

Last edited by FatherTed (2011-10-08 12:08:12)

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2011-10-08 12:21:37

#7721

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5813|Alba

join MM or Bricksquad

seems to be where all the terrible ex-NCers have pooled

2011-10-08 12:22:22

#7722

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

hey now

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2011-10-08 12:26:06

#7723

[-DER-]Omega: membeR; +188|6828|Lithuania

m3thod wrote:
BF3 environment is too cluttered, too much going on, its too detailed to the point i don't know where people are. Couple this with the new 1/2 shots to kill i don't see how anyone can find this enjoyable.

I know right, give us a game where you can't tell an enemy soldier from a shrub, and make it infinitely harder to spot them via the useless map, no uav, etc. And tbh I'd rather put up with the "enemy x spotted" than the constant "be advised" about something that doesn't even come up on my map and therefore servers no function at all.

https://bf3s.com/sigs/fe717ed1eb823c939460a42f15bced7dd0057c51.png

2011-10-08 12:26:23

#7724

jord: Member; +2,382|6679|The North, beyond the wall.

the LAV is pretty decent just went 26-4 in it but I wish it had more than one seat...

2011-10-08 12:31:06

#7725

CC-Marley: Member; +407|6830

I try to play this game. I have under 20 minutes of play time in three log ons. Maybe when it gets cold and starts getting dark real early.

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