Shocking
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Shahter wrote:

finally! it's political reasons now, not "just apprising against oppressive regimes". halle-fucking-luia!
Never is, people shouldn't buy the humanitarian reasons, there's a lot more to it. If it were that simple we should be all over the planet.

Shahter wrote:

mostly it is. you don't really need to assume direct control as long as they play to your tune - and they do, because the alternative have been demonstrated many times and very clearly to them
Dno, there's lots of countries around the globe which we don't agree with yet are left alone (mainly in Africa). It's about whether or not the country which 'doesn't play to our tune' is an actual threat to us or not.

Take North Korea for example, Kim and his cronies are insane - and have been closely watched for the past 50 years or so. On the other hand, Turkmenistan has had a dictator for decades and I believe they weren't exactly big on the west either, until 9/11 it was barely on the radar.
inane little opines
Uzique
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i don't think the decisive factor in involvement is whether or not they're a 'threat', it's whether or not you have an interest.
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lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

how did you know the American you saw was "stupid and warmongering"?
He had a too small white T-shirt with a print on it that said "Kill all arabs" or something like that ... it was a tad difficult to see because he had the T-shirt on inside out
yup, thats stupid and warmongering alright.
lowing
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awww gee Ken Jennings, I was really hoping I could come on tonight and read your explanation as to how Islam instills a 'separate but equal" attitude regarding non-muslims, and it not be considered intolerant and bigoted....Ya know, given that you studied Islam and all.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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So apparently 4/5 people in the compound were killed while unarmed, there was no 'firefight' after all.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Old news. First reports are invariably wrong...which is why it's normal to wait for a while to "tell the story."

Speaks to experience of those dealing with it, I suppose.
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I think I'll have an Osama tonight...  Great new drink, 2 shots and a splash of water.
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m3thod
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i recommend a Manhattan instead.
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eleven bravo
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m3th, wheres bin laden really at?
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so - he had a porn stash http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- … 03543.html
lol
https://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/05/07/Osamatv01_1_424x318.jpg

Last edited by Kimmmmmmmmmmmm (2011-05-13 11:43:09)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
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Did anyone post this yet? I couldnt find it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu … _blog.html

John McCain wrote:

“I have sought further information from the staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and they confirm for me that, in fact, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in Al-Qaeda and his true relationship to Osama bin Laden — was obtained through standard, non-coercive means, not through any ‘enhanced interrogation technique.’

“In short, it was not torture or cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of detainees that got us the major leads that ultimately enabled our intelligence community to find Osama bin Laden. I hope former Attorney General Mukasey will correct his misstatement. It’s important that he do so because we are again engaged in this important debate, with much at stake for America’s security and reputation. Each side should make its own case, but do so without making up its own facts.
Jenspm
penis
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Looks like propaganda to paint the enemy as sinful pigs to me. I'm not doubting it was there, but it shouldn't be a news story. Fox was the best, "The discovery of pornography taken during raids on Islamic militants is not uncommon" - right, okay.
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eleven bravo
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its not
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eleven bravo
Member
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you really believe all these guys are some kind of holy warriors?

Last edited by eleven bravo (2011-05-13 12:20:57)

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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6941|St. Andrews / Oslo

I don't really see the point in wasting time on Osama's porn habits for anything other than propaganda purposes..
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RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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itll get more hits. monies
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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6941|St. Andrews / Oslo

RTHKI wrote:

itll get more hits. monies
I was talking about the US officials who told the media.

edit- and also the media as well. It's not all money, they have political agendas too.

Last edited by Jenspm (2011-05-13 12:30:02)

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Pineapplewhat
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Jenspm wrote:

I don't really see the point in wasting time on Osama's porn habits for anything other than propaganda purposes..
Doesn't need a point other than propaganda tbh.
Trotskygrad
бля
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probablyyyyyyyyy
Pug
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It doesn't really matter whether he was actually into ritualized flogging or not.  People will have made up their minds before the report was issued anyway.
eleven bravo
Member
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poor osama
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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One word: steganography.
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Macbeth
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I wonder what kind of porn he was into.
Uzique
dasein.
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who cares
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13rin
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Macbeth.
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