rdx-fx
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+955|6832

jord wrote:

rdx whats your 1911 then
Don't have a M1911 clone at the moment.

HK USP .45

May pick up another FN HP MkIII 9mm soon. 
Miss my old one.
chuyskywalker
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+2,439|7089|"Frisco"

Took it to the range today. Tons of fun to shoot. 150 rounds, no firing issues what-so-ever. Magazine loads ... weirdly. Really, really glad I added a follower assist, would have been annoyed as hell without it. S&W should fix that. I kept getting gun powder on my hangs manipulating the magazines and couldn't figure out why till I recalled that this is .22, aka, "blow back" style firing mechanism. My last rifle was a gas-piston. I miss the gas piston setup, the important operating areas stay a LOT cleaner.

The magnifier I have on it is crraaaaaap. The eye relief is about 1/2 an inch, which means you have to pull the rifle waaaay back towards you causing your strong hand to be really awkward. Probably just going to take that off, I had trouble and the two others who tried it also have issues with it.

The trigger is quite heavy, but since it's a standard ar15 setup, apparently you can swap it out with something nicer, which would be cool a bit down the line. That said, while the pull is heavy, the reset is nice and there's no "slack" after the reset. You can also tell that you've shot the last round because the trigger feels different letting out when the bolt has locked back.

Break down for cleaning is simple and requires no tools. Took about 15 minutes to give it a good field strip and clean. The only "hard to get" spot is going to be under the extractor arm and a few weird spots on the inside of the upper. Not really a big deal though.

I took off the laser sight.

Overall, I'm extremely happy with the purchase.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6630
I usually use an air compressor when cleaning firearms. Really comes in handy and speeds it up a bit.
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rdx-fx
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+955|6832

chuyskywalker wrote:

The trigger is quite heavy, but since it's a standard ar15 setup, apparently you can swap it out with something nicer, which would be cool a bit down the line. That said, while the pull is heavy, the reset is nice and there's no "slack" after the reset. You can also tell that you've shot the last round because the trigger feels different letting out when the bolt has locked back.

Break down for cleaning is simple and requires no tools. Took about 15 minutes to give it a good field strip and clean. The only "hard to get" spot is going to be under the extractor arm and a few weird spots on the inside of the upper. Not really a big deal though.
If the trigger is the same as a standard AR-15, it's $3 to order a trigger spring kit from midwayusa or brownells.
It's a 5 minute job, if you've done it before.  It's a 2 hour task the first time.

The extractor, however, is most likely nothing like an AR-15.
On the off chance it is, though, the firing pin retaining pin works well to push out the extractor retaining/pivot pin while keeping the extractor from flying off.  The retaining pin just displaces the extractor pin, and has a better 'handle' for pulling it back out.
chuyskywalker
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+2,439|7089|"Frisco"

Yeah, I have an air compressor too. Does help.

I am sure the extractor is very different, since it's a .22 rifle, not .223

The trigger, while can be swapped in/out with stanard ar-15 triggers, probably isn't constructed the same. I'll check into it on the S&W site though.
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+955|6832

chuyskywalker wrote:

The trigger, while can be swapped in/out with stanard ar-15 triggers, probably isn't constructed the same. I'll check into it on the S&W site though.
I'll see if I can get my hands on one to take a look.  Morbidly curious.
chuyskywalker
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+2,439|7089|"Frisco"

Clearly, I had no idea how those were put together (just youtubed trigger jobs for the ridle). It does, indeed, look like you can just drop in the JP kit and be off to the races. I'll consider that.

Hrm what makes something like this worth so much?
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6582|Atlanta, Georgia
Ease of install? Feel? Lighter trigger pull means you dont influence the weapons aim. I just read a few reviews and saw what everyone else said.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6822|the dank(super) side of Oregon

chuyskywalker wrote:

Hrm what makes something like this worth so much?
Timney makes a good trigger.
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6582|Atlanta, Georgia
Does anyone know anything about SKS sears? I've got an SKS and i was looking around online for new sears to make it full auto. (after i get my tax stamp of course) But the thing about the sears and mods i've seen is once you release the bolt the weapon empties the magazine. Anyone know about that?
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6630
You do understand you can't registered a new full-auto?
The registration for fully automatic was closed in 1986.
You can only buy (transfer) an existing registered full-auto, which isn't cheap.

Of course this doesn't apply to those dealing and manufacturing of NFA items with the proper licensing.
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Reciprocity
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+721|6822|the dank(super) side of Oregon
lol, no, all he needs is a $200 stamp to manufacture a machine gun.





enjoy federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6630
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BTW: Here is a link to a site with a classified section for NFA items, it'll give you an idea of whats out there and how much it's going for:
http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/

Last edited by west-phoenix-az (2011-05-07 11:28:27)

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Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6846|Greenwood, IN
So I was thinking of picking up a 9mm.  We've had a rash of break ins over the past year.  I was thinking ether a Glock or Springfield XD.  I don't need any special features just reg model I guess.  But, do you guys have any recommendations?
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6955|US

Naturn wrote:

So I was thinking of picking up a 9mm.  We've had a rash of break ins over the past year.  I was thinking ether a Glock or Springfield XD.  I don't need any special features just reg model I guess.  But, do you guys have any recommendations?
Both are good handguns.  Make sure you learn to safely use them accurately.  Handgun shooting is a perishable skill.
13urnzz
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RAIMIUS wrote:

Naturn wrote:

So I was thinking of picking up a 9mm.  We've had a rash of break ins over the past year.  I was thinking ether a Glock or Springfield XD.  I don't need any special features just reg model I guess.  But, do you guys have any recommendations?
Both are good handguns.  Make sure you learn to safely use them accurately.  Handgun shooting is a perishable skill.
you're killing me here . . .
Trotskygrad
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RAIMIUS wrote:

Naturn wrote:

So I was thinking of picking up a 9mm.  We've had a rash of break ins over the past year.  I was thinking ether a Glock or Springfield XD.  I don't need any special features just reg model I guess.  But, do you guys have any recommendations?
Both are good handguns.  Make sure you learn to safely use them accurately.  Handgun shooting is a perishable skill.
why not get a shotgun for home defense? less likely to overpenetrate I think
Reciprocity
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+721|6822|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Trotskygrad wrote:

why not get a shotgun for home defense? less likely to overpenetrate I think
a load of buckshot is just as likely to go through a couple walls as is a 9mm jacketed hollow point round.  And the spead of buckshot within most HD ranges is about the size of a fist.  They're not magic point-in-the-general-direction and click implements.  They require as much control and accuracy as any handgun while being two feet longer and three times as heavy.  I'm not saying shotguns are bad for HD but there are serious considerations.
ROGUEDD
BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.
+452|5630|Fuck this.
I'd rather have my 12 gauge in case of a break in than any other weapon. But yeah, the whole over penetration thing is a load of bull. Its a gun and it is going to go through a few walls if you miss the target.
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6347|eXtreme to the maX

RAIMIUS wrote:

Naturn wrote:

So I was thinking of picking up a 9mm.  We've had a rash of break ins over the past year.  I was thinking ether a Glock or Springfield XD.  I don't need any special features just reg model I guess.  But, do you guys have any recommendations?
Both are good handguns.  Make sure you learn to safely use them accurately.  Handgun shooting is a perishable skill.
Why does everyone pick an auto for self-defence?
I wouldn't.
Fuck Israel
13urnzz
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+5,830|6738

Dilbert_X wrote:

Why does everyone pick an auto for self-defence?
not everyone

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Reciprocity
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+721|6822|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Dilbert_X wrote:

Why does everyone pick an auto for self-defence?
I wouldn't.
mmm...yes, I use a 1858 Remington army percussion revolver.  It's just so damned reliable.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6347|eXtreme to the maX
Modern revolver vs modern auto

- Which is more reliable
- Which is less likely to result in an accidental discharge in the heat of the moment, while re-holstering, loading, unloading etc
Fuck Israel
Trotskygrad
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+354|6240|Vortex Ring State

Reciprocity wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

why not get a shotgun for home defense? less likely to overpenetrate I think
a load of buckshot is just as likely to go through a couple walls as is a 9mm jacketed hollow point round.  And the spead of buckshot within most HD ranges is about the size of a fist.  They're not magic point-in-the-general-direction and click implements.  They require as much control and accuracy as any handgun while being two feet longer and three times as heavy.  I'm not saying shotguns are bad for HD but there are serious considerations.
mmm?

shotgun will still penetrate less, although it will punch through a lot

12ga
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

9mm
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm
rdx-fx
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Sold the HK USP .45

Now own an HK P30 in .40 S&W.

Only have 100 rounds through it so far, but the changeable grip setup makes it more comfortable than an FN HighPower Mk III.

Very repeatable natural point of aim. 
Very good accuracy (66 yards, 18" plate, continual hits)
Very short recovery time (2+2 round drills, all hits on 6" wide target at 25 yards, 4th round on target before the 1st casing hits the ground)

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