Does the Islamic world need a boogeyman?

2011-03-08 14:21:34

#1

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6801|Texas - Bigger than France

It's been cited on bf2s that apparently the US needs one according to some for a "united cause".

Does the Islamic world need a boogeyman to avoid dealing with other internal issues?

Internal issues like equal rights, large gaps in wealth between classes, racial, and religious divisions...etc

And of course, why do the islamics HAVE to give a shit about Israel and vice versa?

2011-03-08 15:02:54

#2

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6972|Purplicious Wisconsin

They don't like Israel 'cause they are westernized. They like living in the stone age and don't care about progress in technology. Israel is just concerned about their country's possible destruction so relations with Muslims is terrible.

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2011-03-08 15:05:11

#3

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6756

oh, nvm. i'm not getting paid to give history lessons, especially when there are countless others more willing, on this forum . . .

2011-03-08 15:10:05

#4

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6801|Texas - Bigger than France

simple question burnzz...why does the US care about Israel is constantly asked on this forum. Is it too passe to ask why Iran cares about Lebanon?

2011-03-08 15:21:50

#5

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6756

Pug wrote:
simple question burnzz...why does the US care about Israel is constantly asked on this forum. Is it too passe to ask why Iran cares about Lebanon?

no, and if any intelligence remained within bf2s, you'd probably get a good answer. i would guess Iran cares about Lebanon because they both hold similar religious beliefs. (if i recall, they practice the same sect of Islamism).

my reply to warman would have to cover a doctorates' dissertation in both history and politics, when i'm already 20 minutes overdue of leaving work.

it's 4:20 pm, gentlemen. Good day, see you this evening . . .

2011-03-08 18:02:30

#6

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6801|Texas - Bigger than France

burnzz wrote:
Pug wrote:
simple question burnzz...why does the US care about Israel is constantly asked on this forum. Is it too passe to ask why Iran cares about Lebanon?
no, and if any intelligence remained within bf2s, you'd probably get a good answer. i would guess Iran cares about Lebanon because they both hold similar religious beliefs. (if i recall, they practice the same sect of Islamism).

my reply to warman would have to cover a doctorates' dissertation in both history and politics, when i'm already 20 minutes overdue of leaving work.

it's 4:20 pm, gentlemen. Good day, see you this evening . . .

exactly the point of the thread...different religious beliefs = does that need to be the boogeyman?

2011-03-10 03:43:42

#7

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6365|eXtreme to the maX

Everyone needs a boogeyman.

For the British it was the French
Americans had Communists and saucer people, now muslims.
Germans had Jews
Muslims have Israel and the West
Irish Catholics had Protestants and vice versa

burnzz wrote:
would guess Iran cares about Lebanon because they both hold similar religious beliefs. (if i recall, they practice the same sect of Islamism).

Lebanon isn't exclusively muslim by any stretch.

Fuck Israel

2011-03-10 04:19:05

#8

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6670|'Murka

oversimplification ftw!

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2011-03-10 04:58:58

#9

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6365|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:
oversimplification ftw!

You're defensive because you'd be out of a job if you didn't have a boogeyman.

Fuck Israel

2011-03-10 06:41:07

#10

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6910|USA

THe Islamic world has a boogeyman...It is Islam

2011-03-11 02:33:45

#11

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6670|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
FEOS wrote:
oversimplification ftw!
You're defensive because you'd be out of a job if you didn't have a boogeyman.

Not defensive at all.

You're just oversimplifying a much more complex issue. Too bad you can't see that.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-13 05:01:06

#12

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6365|eXtreme to the maX

Whatever, everyone thinks they need a boogeyman.

Fuck Israel

2011-03-13 08:32:27

#13

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6801|Texas - Bigger than France

I guess what I'm leading up to here is: do you think a war between Israel & enemies is necessary to sort this out?

2011-03-13 09:06:37

#14

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5295|Massachusetts, USA

Pug wrote:
I guess what I'm leading up to here is: do you think a war between Israel & enemies is necessary to sort this out?

War is never necessary.

Also, Warman, the Islamic world in the past were the keepers of all the ancients texts and information that would've been destroyed had the dark ages engulfed the entire world (thankfully those stayed in Europe.) Granted that's a very brief summary that (as burnzz said) would take a dissertation and several semesters of studying to fully understand.

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2011-03-13 09:36:40

#15

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6801|Texas - Bigger than France

Sometimes war is necessary...WW2 was.

2011-03-13 09:49:33

#16

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5295|Massachusetts, USA

Pug wrote:
Sometimes war is necessary...WW2 was.

Touche, most wars are unnecessary.

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.

2011-03-13 10:33:49

#17

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6824|Area 51

Pug wrote:
Sometimes war is necessary...WW2 was.

How was WWII necessary?

2011-03-13 10:35:41

#18

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5295|Massachusetts, USA

RDMC wrote:
Pug wrote:
Sometimes war is necessary...WW2 was.
How was WWII necessary?

Stopped the genocide of millions of people. The atomic age came from it, rapid advancement into numerous technologies.

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.

2011-03-13 10:38:33

#19

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6258|...

WW II was only inevitable really, considering how WW I ended I don't think there was anything else that could've happened. Necessary? I guess.

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2011-03-13 13:46:39

#20

Beduin: Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid; +510|6009|شمال

whoever creates a boogeyman is infact the real boogeyman

الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic

2011-03-13 14:02:36

#21

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6880|London, England

I've always wondered why Muslims (outside of Isreal's neighbourhood) give so much of a shit about Israel too, I'm guessing the main reason it resonates around the entire Islamic world is because of all the shit in Jerusalem. They had it for centuries, built Mosques and stuff there and then made them into some of the holiest sites in the religion. So when it did fall to another group, it became a big issue for everyone of that religion.

Then again, the reason why the Western world cares about Israel is because of religion too, that and the nauseating collective guilt of the Holocaust that seems to be driven down everyone's throat. It wouldn't make sense for it to be just politics as to why Israel is the big ally, why bother then? Why bother going through all of that just to create an ally in the region? If it was just politics and most importantly business, then none of this shit would have happened as it would be very unnecessary.

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2011-03-14 06:24:29

#22

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6670|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
Whatever, everyone thinks they need a boogeyman.

This is a true statement. What you posted before was incorrect.

Politicians need bogeymen in order to focus the peoples' attention elsewhere. If their attention were focused on the politicians, then there would be too much chance of accountability/revolution by the people (see the ME today).

See what happens to government power when there is a bogeyman for the people to focus on: it expands dramatically.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-14 13:34:52

#23

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6664|North Carolina

Doesn't every group need a bogeyman?

Common enemy = solidarity and sometimes profit for an elite section of society

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