While having a gun in situations like these is probably great, I don't think it justifies having a 5x higher homicide rate than almost every EU country. Gun laws must have a stake in that.
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that is discussed here.dayarath wrote:
While having a gun in situations like these is probably great, I don't think it justifies having a 5x higher homicide rate than almost every EU country. Gun laws must have a stake in that.
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html
So you are inherently more violent ?
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Excellent rhetoric's lowing ... since banks with alarms attracts thieves it doesn't work on a home ...lowing wrote:
Banks have alarms, stores have alarms, and yet, they get broken into......so much for your 100% alarm systems.Varegg wrote:
With the correct alarm and or other passive measures you can almost 100% prevent them from entering the house in the first place thus rendering the need for a gun and a situation where a gun would be needed to almost 0 ...
what else ya got??
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
lol what? an alarm is an alarm and a thief is a thief , what the hell are you talking about?Varegg wrote:
Excellent rhetoric's lowing ... since banks with alarms attracts thieves it doesn't work on a home ...lowing wrote:
Banks have alarms, stores have alarms, and yet, they get broken into......so much for your 100% alarm systems.Varegg wrote:
With the correct alarm and or other passive measures you can almost 100% prevent them from entering the house in the first place thus rendering the need for a gun and a situation where a gun would be needed to almost 0 ...
what else ya got??
maybedayarath wrote:
So you are inherently more violent ?
and until you figure out how to curtail that, since gun availability, is not a factor, I will continue to CCW and keep guns in my home for defense.
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If you really don't get it I will not bother dragging this over another 25 pages discussing the issue ... it's not that important ...lowing wrote:
lol what? an alarm is an alarm and a thief is a thief , what the hell are you talking about?Varegg wrote:
Excellent rhetoric's lowing ... since banks with alarms attracts thieves it doesn't work on a home ...lowing wrote:
Banks have alarms, stores have alarms, and yet, they get broken into......so much for your 100% alarm systems.
what else ya got??
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
nope got no clue what you are talking about. Really wondering if you do.Varegg wrote:
If you really don't get it I will not bother dragging this over another 25 pages discussing the issue ... it's not that important ...lowing wrote:
lol what? an alarm is an alarm and a thief is a thief , what the hell are you talking about?Varegg wrote:
Excellent rhetoric's lowing ... since banks with alarms attracts thieves it doesn't work on a home ...
Are you actually trying to say an alarm is a deterrence but when I point out stores and banks have alarms and they still get robbed, you are claiming that is different? Really?
I like guns.
Baba Booey
We can access to CNN, you dont have to post a new topic for every single news.
ummmm wouldn't that ring true for 95 % of all OP's? If you don't want to post anything constructive, keep moving then, simply really.Ottomania wrote:
We can access to CNN, you dont have to post a new topic for every single news.
This OP is extremely ordinary to be posted as a new topic.lowing wrote:
ummmm wouldn't that ring true for 95 % of all OP's? If you don't want to post anything constructive, keep moving then, simply really.Ottomania wrote:
We can access to CNN, you dont have to post a new topic for every single news.
I didn't think so given the intense debates here regarding home invasion. However, comment still stands, if it is to blase' for you, keep moving and don't worry about it.Ottomania wrote:
This OP is extremely ordinary to be posted as a new topic.lowing wrote:
ummmm wouldn't that ring true for 95 % of all OP's? If you don't want to post anything constructive, keep moving then, simply really.Ottomania wrote:
We can access to CNN, you dont have to post a new topic for every single news.
Fuck installing an alarm. Just leave a mannequin covered with fake blood in your kitchen.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
The point of hollow points isn't the lack of range, it's the lack of distance they go after hitting an object. They stop (or severely slow down) after hitting objects such as people and walls making them a good home defense round.Dilbert_X wrote:
Again, hollow points really don't have much less of a dangerous range than standard bullets.lowing wrote:
Again, my family's life is already at risk when my home got invaded. Not because I defend it. God, your attitude is unbelievable. Let me ask you, do you even own a home? Do you own possessions that you bought yourself? Do you have a wife and kids? In other words, in your mind, do you have anything or anyone in your life worth protecting?
Shoot hollow points. Plus, a .22 i not exactly the optimal home defense round
.22lr is a very low powered cartridge and has a lethal range measured in miles, .45 is many times more dangerous.
Apart from family do I have anything I think is worth risking blowing my neighbours kids head off in order to protect?
No. Even for family a knife or bat would be my first pick.
Would I want everyone in my street armed and ready to start spraying bullets around to protect their TV or porcelain miniatures?
Not likely.
bingojaymz9350 wrote:
The point of hollow points isn't the lack of range, it's the lack of distance they go after hitting an object. They stop (or severely slow down) after hitting objects such as people and walls making them a good home defense round.Dilbert_X wrote:
Again, hollow points really don't have much less of a dangerous range than standard bullets.lowing wrote:
Again, my family's life is already at risk when my home got invaded. Not because I defend it. God, your attitude is unbelievable. Let me ask you, do you even own a home? Do you own possessions that you bought yourself? Do you have a wife and kids? In other words, in your mind, do you have anything or anyone in your life worth protecting?
Shoot hollow points. Plus, a .22 i not exactly the optimal home defense round
.22lr is a very low powered cartridge and has a lethal range measured in miles, .45 is many times more dangerous.
Apart from family do I have anything I think is worth risking blowing my neighbours kids head off in order to protect?
No. Even for family a knife or bat would be my first pick.
Would I want everyone in my street armed and ready to start spraying bullets around to protect their TV or porcelain miniatures?
Not likely.
this thread makes me sad
doucheface broke in because nobody was home
an alarm would have made him steal shit faster and then just run away without being caught
forcibly enter someones home = you give up your right to safety. don't like it? don't do it
as far as police being "professionals" with firearms.... many can barely tell you what caliber their sidearm is
doucheface broke in because nobody was home
an alarm would have made him steal shit faster and then just run away without being caught
forcibly enter someones home = you give up your right to safety. don't like it? don't do it
as far as police being "professionals" with firearms.... many can barely tell you what caliber their sidearm is
Ignore the nutjob lowinglowing wrote:
I didn't think so given the intense debates here regarding home invasion. However, comment still stands, if it is to blase' for you, keep moving and don't worry about it.Ottomania wrote:
This OP is extremely ordinary to be posted as a new topic.lowing wrote:
ummmm wouldn't that ring true for 95 % of all OP's? If you don't want to post anything constructive, keep moving then, simply really.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
if you broke into my house lowing, i would shoot you in the face like a gazillion times.
Tu Stultus Es
the memory of a face
Tu Stultus Es
And many can barely operate them, let alone hit anything.krazed wrote:
this thread makes me sad
doucheface broke in because nobody was home
an alarm would have made him steal shit faster and then just run away without being caught
forcibly enter someones home = you give up your right to safety. don't like it? don't do it
as far as police being "professionals" with firearms.... many can barely tell you what caliber their sidearm is
Fuck Israel
Well it is a good thing I would never break into anyone's home then isn't it?eleven bravo wrote:
if you broke into my house lowing, i would shoot you in the face like a gazillion times.
That can be debatedlowing wrote:
Well it is a good thing I would never break into anyone's home then isn't it?eleven bravo wrote:
if you broke into my house lowing, i would shoot you in the face like a gazillion times.
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
ummmm no not really.Varegg wrote:
That can be debatedlowing wrote:
Well it is a good thing I would never break into anyone's home then isn't it?eleven bravo wrote:
if you broke into my house lowing, i would shoot you in the face like a gazillion times.
Oh wait, is there where I both my legs and arms are cut off and I go blind, so my wife and kids abandon me and I am left with no choice but to break into someones house in order to survive?
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