BF2S Forums Tunisian president flees country.

Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:

He fled, the bastard!
Fuck him! I hope this sparks a revolution in middleeast.

erm?

tis africa

your point?

you first?

how would that spark a revolution?

Nic wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

yup done deal ! simpler than rebuilding even just Germany after WWII, good point !

Terrorist attacks went from 10 in 8 years to ahh. . .   umm ~ anyone ?

/sigh.
man, like, stop it already. usa & co's adventures in middle east have nothing to do with terrorist attacks. nobody buys that shit anymore.

horsemen does.

and other people who have not had any trouble in 10 years

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

A friendly government was pushed out by force..

Yes, you are right! All those corrupted leaders in the midddleeast are our friends.

beats the corrupted ones who preach slaughter your way to heaven

What are you talking about?

Q: how the fuck did she get 1.5 tons of gold?

Turquoise wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

You think it would be as simple as overthrowing the government of Iraq... oh, wait.

yup done deal ! simpler than rebuilding even just Germany after WWII, good point !

Terrorist attacks went from 10 in 8 years to ahh. . .   umm ~ anyone ?

Um...  I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but the occupation of Iraq is more expensive than the rebuilding of Germany was.

wat... sounds abit unlikely to me

You do remember to recalculate the currency from it's past-day value to the present day value?

Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

how would that spark a revolution?

Gee, I don’t know marine. Maybe this proves to the people in the rest of the region that it is actually possible to remove their dictators that have been sitting in power for more than 2 decades.
Just a thought!

Now, what was your point again?

rest of the region is africa...oh nvm

Morpheus wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Seems like smelly guys are on the move again. A friendly government was pushed out by force and there aren't two blue balls to rub together in D.C. to take any action on it.

Erm, huh? Like Iran? Or Vietnam?

yes

FloppY_ wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

yup done deal ! simpler than rebuilding even just Germany after WWII, good point !

Terrorist attacks went from 10 in 8 years to ahh. . .   umm ~ anyone ?

Um...  I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but the occupation of Iraq is more expensive than the rebuilding of Germany was.

wat... sounds abit unlikely to me

You do remember to recalculate the currency from it's past-day value to the present day value?

I did...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

The U.S. contributed $13 billion to the Marshall Plan.  This includes rebuilding more than just Germany, actually.  When adjusted for inflation, that amounts to about $115 billion in present day dollars.

The occupation of Iraq has cost us about $704 billion.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_ … e_Iraq_War

FloppY_ wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

wat... sounds abit unlikely to me

You do remember to recalculate the currency from it's past-day value to the present day value?

I did...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

The U.S. contributed $13 billion to the Marshall Plan.  This includes rebuilding more than just Germany, actually.  When adjusted for inflation, that amounts to about $115 billion in present day dollars.

The occupation of Iraq has cost us about $704 billion.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_ … e_Iraq_War

wat.jpg

It's hard to believe, but it's true.  Even if we include another $12 billion spent on general aid given to Europe during that time, that still only brings the total up to $220 billion.

A lot of the reason for this is that warfare nowadays is extremely expensive.  The cutting edge technologies we employ for attacks and surveillance cost a shitload.  Also, nation building is much more expensive today because of corruption among an oligopolistic group of contractors.   For obvious reasons, not many companies have the resources needed to nation build, so the few that we have to pick from end up milking the situation for all it's worth.

Last edited by Turquoise (2011-01-18 07:26:41)

11 Bravo wrote:

no no no hold on.  break those numbers down a bit pls.

As of February 2010, around $704 billion has been spent based on estimates of current expenditure rates,[1] which range from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) estimate of $2 billion per week to $12 billion a month, an estimate by economist Joseph Stiglitz.[2]

Those figures are significantly more than typical estimates published just prior to the start of the Iraq War, many of which were based on a shorter term of involvement. For example, in a March 16, 2003 Meet the Press interview of Vice President Dick Cheney, held less than a week before the Iraq War began, host Tim Russert reported that "every analysis said this war itself would cost about $80 billion, recovery of Baghdad, perhaps of Iraq, about $10 billion per year. We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement."

All of that was taken from the Financial Costs of Iraq War wiki link.

There's also this.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Relie … ction_Fund

See the appropriations section of the Financial Costs of Iraq War link for more details.

11 Bravo wrote:

hmmm doesnt seem accurate.  i will look into it later.  seems like stats padding to me.

I bet it's like $600 politician pay