I watched the whole thing. That's really stupid, sorry.lowing wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg
We are not at war with Islam.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bizarre comparison. As far as I know, pr0n hasn't really been associated with an attack like that. Two different animals.nlsme1 wrote:
So a mosque 2 blocks away from ground zero is tasteless. How about the porn shop 2 blocks in the other direction?
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a question of can they, but should they.
Yeah, we're at war with fanatical Islam. It's similar, but with some important differences.nlsme1 wrote:
We are not at war with Islam.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bizarre comparison. As far as I know, pr0n hasn't really been associated with an attack like that. Two different animals.nlsme1 wrote:
So a mosque 2 blocks away from ground zero is tasteless. How about the porn shop 2 blocks in the other direction?
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a question of can they, but should they.
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Didn't say we were. It's their call, not ours, but is it the best of ideas?nlsme1 wrote:
We are not at war with Islam.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bizarre comparison. As far as I know, pr0n hasn't really been associated with an attack like that. Two different animals.nlsme1 wrote:
So a mosque 2 blocks away from ground zero is tasteless. How about the porn shop 2 blocks in the other direction?
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a question of can they, but should they.
I never understood how muslims can have a hidden agenda or dual personality, when anyone can read their books which have been around for more than 1400 yearsMacbeth wrote:
I watched the whole thing. That's really stupid, sorry.
1. His one experience with a Muslim guy doesn't prove anything.
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Well, that depends on if the porn shop was already in place before 9/11 or not.nlsme1 wrote:
Is a porn shop two blocks the other direction?
Only certain Muslims have the kind of agendas that people worry about. It's like Christians or any other religious people for that matter.Beduin wrote:
I never understood how muslims can have a hidden agenda or dual personality, when anyone can read their books which have been around for more than 1400 yearsMacbeth wrote:
I watched the whole thing. That's really stupid, sorry.
1. His one experience with a Muslim guy doesn't prove anything.
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where do you see muslims force others to convert?Turquoise wrote:
...although conversion by force is mostly a thing of the past for Christians. It's not as much a thing of the past for Muslims in certain countries.
why am I not surprised?Macbeth wrote:
I watched the whole thing. That's really stupid, sorry.lowing wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg
1. His one experience with a Muslim guy doesn't prove anything.
2. The Abu Darda quote "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them", isn't referring to Muslims or Islam but is referring to human nature.
3. It's not a Mosque
yes we are, sorry.nlsme1 wrote:
We are not at war with Islam.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bizarre comparison. As far as I know, pr0n hasn't really been associated with an attack like that. Two different animals.nlsme1 wrote:
So a mosque 2 blocks away from ground zero is tasteless. How about the porn shop 2 blocks in the other direction?
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a question of can they, but should they.
bush declared an illegal war on 'terrorism', in his veiled-language basically meaning 'fanatical islamic extremism'lowing wrote:
yes we are, sorry.nlsme1 wrote:
We are not at war with Islam.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bizarre comparison. As far as I know, pr0n hasn't really been associated with an attack like that. Two different animals.
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a question of can they, but should they.
We know the answer to that...Uzique wrote:
or are they not 'real' muslims by your divine ruling?
In some Islamic societies, it is a crime to convert out of Islam. That's forcing someone to stay in the faith when the punishment is usually very severe (like execution).Beduin wrote:
I cant see how this is related to what I wrote, but ok...where do you see muslims force others to convert?Turquoise wrote:
...although conversion by force is mostly a thing of the past for Christians. It's not as much a thing of the past for Muslims in certain countries.
...and as you wrote, people with certain believe will always try to spread it, even atheists, so what is your point?
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okTurquoise wrote:
It may not be a forced conversion
ya it is. follow islam or go to jail/die. that seems forced to me.Turquoise wrote:
It may not be a forced conversion
Not suprised of what?lowing wrote:
why am I not surprised?Macbeth wrote:
I watched the whole thing. That's really stupid, sorry.lowing wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg
1. His one experience with a Muslim guy doesn't prove anything.
2. The Abu Darda quote "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them", isn't referring to Muslims or Islam but is referring to human nature.
3. It's not a Mosque
I only read what you write, am not psychic!Turquoise wrote:
....although conversion by force is mostly a thing of the past for Christians. It's not as much a thing of the past for Muslims in certain countries.
nope they are not. If you do not follow the teachings of Islam, then you are not following Islam.Uzique wrote:
bush declared an illegal war on 'terrorism', in his veiled-language basically meaning 'fanatical islamic extremism'lowing wrote:
yes we are, sorry.nlsme1 wrote:
We are not at war with Islam.
you are not at war with islam lowing, don't be so hyperbolic.
i don't see americans forcing every on-paper muslim in the country to leave immediately or be executed.
in fact you're 'allied' with a great number of pentagon arab-expert orientalists and muslims.
or are they not 'real' muslims by your divine ruling?
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Do you really really REALLY think the one leader that I cited is the ONLY one that feels that way? Do you really really REALLY think, given what has been done and said AT GREAT LENGTH in the name of Islam there is nothing to it? REALLY???Uzique wrote:
one teacher does not represent the entire network of preachers, let alone the entire religion
when obama's pastor went nuts with all that crazy christian talk, did that then automatically mean that every christian made those comments about 9/11? extend your own logic to your own people... does it make sense then? if not, it's probably because that logic is batshit crazy.
No what is convenient is your dismissing all that has been said and done in the name of this bullshit fucked up religion of peace.Uzique wrote:
yes, yes i do.
i face the objective reality of things and refrain from reducing things in order to merely conveniently suit my warped world view
ta.